The return of the no-call?

[coco]

The return of the no-call?

Perhaps I am in the minority on this, but I feel the refereeing has gotten better this season…for the most part.  I rather have a no-call, than a bad call.

I really think the refs are making an effort – at least during the regular season – of just calling the fouls they actually see.  I think that’s a big improvement from last several seasons….

Are we witness to the return of the no-call?  Remember, the way it used to be before the 90s and the Euroball/flopping, etc?  I hope the refs stay consistent throughout the season and the playoffs.

Anyways, In my opinion, I like it better this way…..

What is your take?

[Assassin70]

Is there a return of the no call yes...I agree.

However it is never constant.  It could be 1 qt or 1 half or 1 game.  You never know what the refs will do.

So actual now that I think of it nothing has changed the ref's will continue to be inconsistent.

And PLAYOFFS PLAYOFFS don't get me started on playoffs.  We know the ref's rotate but sometimes a series will be called consistently like Boston VS Orlando last year then change game to game like the Lakers VS Celtics last year.

NBA refs are trash.

[nba is the worst]

Is there a return of the no call yes...I agree.

However it is never constant.  It could be 1 qt or 1 half or 1 game.  You never know what the refs will do.

So actual now that I think of it nothing has changed the ref's will continue to be inconsistent.

And PLAYOFFS PLAYOFFS don't get me started on playoffs.  We know the ref's rotate but sometimes a series will be called consistently like Boston VS Orlando last year then change game to game like the Lakers VS Celtics last year.

NBA refs are trash.

Agreed. No-calls are just as capable of being one-sided (and therefore impacting the fairness and/or outcome of a game/series) as calls.

Sad how Stern has chosen the ostrich response to the warranted criticism of the NBA's officiating.

[joeb]

Not sure about the return of the no-call, but fairness and consistency is what the players and coaches (and fans) want. We have neither. It's sometimes hard not to subscribe to the "conspiracy theories", but the alternative isn't much better (that the referees are just terrible at what they do and the league does nothing to improve it). If you notice, most of the time the referees are just out of position, then they either make the call because they see the aftermath without seeing the action precipitating it, or they do something stupid like call a double foul or tech. And adding more refs to games won't help (you would think 3 is enough), since simple math tells you that anything times zero is still zero.

[2short]

A real reporter or espn with bxlls needs to do a show on how poor the officiating is in the nba.  There has been a fixing scandal that was largely swept under the rug.  A few years ago it came to light that a ref (?) can picture him had it out for tim duncan.  The nba needs a baseball like steriod public outing to improve the game.  Maybe we are all paranoid about the calls against the celtics but watch 2 other teams playing as well, the refs are bad and probably tilting the scales.
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[GranTur]

I watch an enormous amount of NBA games, and I've definitely noticed a small improvement in the quality of officiating this season.

I say that because I used to see so many more stretches where one team was just getting completely screwed for a quarter or two. I've observed this a lot less this year.

Sadly, I did notice this happened against the Celtics in the second half on Christmas. The officials really blew that one.

[pearljammer10]

The biggest problem with refs this year is inconsistency. If youre going to make a call, make the call for both teams at a consistent rate. Charges are obviously the worst. One time down the floor its a charge, the next play the defensive player is moving yet its a block, then a player flops and still gets the charge call. It certainly isnt easy to ref a game but the level of consistency on all calls, for ALL players need to be leveled out to provide a better overall NBA game.

[mgent]

You're wrong, the refs still suck, and they will until they start calling games correctly, fairly, and consistently.

They seem about the same as the last 2 years to me, and that's when it started to get really bad.

[guava_wrench]

The return of the no-call?

Perhaps I am in the minority on this, but I feel the refereeing has gotten better this season…for the most part.  I rather have a no-call, than a bad call.

I really think the refs are making an effort – at least during the regular season – of just calling the fouls they actually see.  I think that’s a big improvement from last several seasons….

Are we witness to the return of the no-call?  Remember, the way it used to be before the 90s and the Euroball/flopping, etc?  I hope the refs stay consistent throughout the season and the playoffs.

Anyways, In my opinion, I like it better this way…..

What is your take?

I believe Euroball allows a more physical game for perimeter players. It is the NBA that calls a game soft.

The change in the game had nothing to do with foreign players from what I remember. It started with the change in the hand-checking rules after the finals with the Knicks where the whole finals they were stiff-arming opposing PGs. It was ugly basketball. 90s basketball was atrocious, especially with Riley coached teams.

Once again, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[mgent]

The return of the no-call?

Perhaps I am in the minority on this, but I feel the refereeing has gotten better this season…for the most part.  I rather have a no-call, than a bad call.

I really think the refs are making an effort – at least during the regular season – of just calling the fouls they actually see.  I think that’s a big improvement from last several seasons….

Are we witness to the return of the no-call?  Remember, the way it used to be before the 90s and the Euroball/flopping, etc?  I hope the refs stay consistent throughout the season and the playoffs.

Anyways, In my opinion, I like it better this way…..

What is your take?

I believe Euroball allows a more physical game for perimeter players. It is the NBA that calls a game soft.

The change in the game had nothing to do with foreign players from what I remember. It started with the change in the hand-checking rules after the finals with the Knicks where the whole finals they were stiff-arming opposing PGs. It was ugly basketball. 90s basketball was atrocious, especially with Riley coached teams.

Once again, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Honestly I don't know much about the Euroleague, but watching the World Championships this summer I felt it was a much more physical game.  Not only on the perimeter but in the paint too.  The refs pretty much just let the guys play and 99% of the time only made the right calls (lots of travels, clean blocked shots, real charges, etc).

In all there were less fouls called and they were more consistent with making the same calls on every player (Durant probably never seen so many travels in his life).  It resulted in a fair game for both teams playing and overall a much more enjoyable basketball viewing experience.  There's absolutely no reason NBA refs can't call the game the same way.  If they did we would probably have at least 3 less losses this year and certainly an 18th banner hanging.