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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2010, 07:59:44 AM »

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I see zero reason to move anyone.

This isn't fantasy basketball. Trading people because we're bored is a horrible idea.
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2010, 08:07:52 AM »

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I see zero reason to move anyone.

This isn't fantasy basketball. Trading people because we're bored is a horrible idea.
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2010, 08:13:59 AM »

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I think we stand pat with our team.  Nate, Daniels & Davis have been playing very good for us.  Our team has yet to suit up everyone, watch out nba.  What we need is an upgrade of Marquis at sf backup OR a 3rd string sf who could give us some minutes.  Against a non ball handling slower sf I'd give those 5-10 minutes to luke 'til he proves otherwise.  He plays good team offense, hits that funny looking jumper and BANGS on the boards.  Of course he can't guard a fast sf and his defense while mightily improved last time he played is still a bit behind.  IMO Danny has left us with a glaring weakness  ;) our last two guys on the bench, von wafer and avery bradley, should be out of the league for one and in d league for other.  That is with all our injuries mind you, great great job by Ainge.  I still like the idea of Lasme for that last spot. 

Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2010, 09:41:17 AM »

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The question is not why we need to replace daniels.  We don't need to replace him.

The question is what happens if Pierce, Allen, or Daniels misses a few weeks with an injury.  Other than Harangody getting alot of minutes we have no Plan B at the wing.

BBD cannot be traded.  If Delonte is healthy Nate is our only tradable piece.

Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2010, 10:47:08 AM »

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The reason would be to make the team better. The Celtics aren't perfect -- always room for improvement. It's December and there's a long, very tough road ahead for this team if they hope to hoist a banner. "Don't jinx it" doesn't really fly.

Trading Nate for MP doesn't the team better. Trading Baby for MP doesn't make the team better. But there inevitably will be deals or transactions this year (of all years) that could make this team better, and thankfully Danny Ainge is constantly looking for those opportunities.

I doubt highly that the roster will look just like it does today at the start of the playoffs.
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2010, 11:09:09 AM »

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The reason would be to make the team better. The Celtics aren't perfect -- always room for improvement. It's December and there's a long, very tough road ahead for this team if they hope to hoist a banner. "Don't jinx it" doesn't really fly.

Trading Nate for MP doesn't the team better. Trading Baby for MP doesn't make the team better. But there inevitably will be deals or transactions this year (of all years) that could make this team better, and thankfully Danny Ainge is constantly looking for those opportunities.

I doubt highly that the roster will look just like it does today at the start of the playoffs.

that's why I would just cut Wafer when DWest is back, and then sign the best player that becomes available in Feb. (if no good players become available to play the wing, then sign Sheed for the stretch run, we need all the bigs we can get).

Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2010, 11:09:15 AM »

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The reason would be to make the team better. The Celtics aren't perfect -- always room for improvement. It's December and there's a long, very tough road ahead for this team if they hope to hoist a banner. "Don't jinx it" doesn't really fly.

Trading Nate for MP doesn't the team better. Trading Baby for MP doesn't make the team better. But there inevitably will be deals or transactions this year (of all years) that could make this team better, and thankfully Danny Ainge is constantly looking for those opportunities.

I doubt highly that the roster will look just like it does today at the start of the playoffs.

And they never will be perfect, no matter how many trades you propose.  The team is fine as is.  The only thing the team could use, imo is a third wing behind Pierce and Daniels and I think we can get a bought out player for that.
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2010, 11:10:16 AM »

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The reason would be to make the team better. The Celtics aren't perfect -- always room for improvement. It's December and there's a long, very tough road ahead for this team if they hope to hoist a banner. "Don't jinx it" doesn't really fly.

Trading Nate for MP doesn't the team better. Trading Baby for MP doesn't make the team better. But there inevitably will be deals or transactions this year (of all years) that could make this team better, and thankfully Danny Ainge is constantly looking for those opportunities.

I doubt highly that the roster will look just like it does today at the start of the playoffs.

And they never will be perfect, no matter how many trades you propose.  The team is fine as is.  The only thing the team could use, imo is a third wing behind Pierce and Daniels and I think we can get a bought out player for that.

Celts arent perfect, but as long as they are more perfect than the other teams, I am content.
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2010, 11:12:57 AM »

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The reason would be to make the team better. The Celtics aren't perfect -- always room for improvement. It's December and there's a long, very tough road ahead for this team if they hope to hoist a banner. "Don't jinx it" doesn't really fly.

Trading Nate for MP doesn't the team better. Trading Baby for MP doesn't make the team better. But there inevitably will be deals or transactions this year (of all years) that could make this team better, and thankfully Danny Ainge is constantly looking for those opportunities.

I doubt highly that the roster will look just like it does today at the start of the playoffs.

And they never will be perfect, no matter how many trades you propose.  The team is fine as is.  The only thing the team could use, imo is a third wing behind Pierce and Daniels and I think we can get a bought out player for that.

Celts arent perfect, but as long as they are more perfect than the other teams, I am content.

My point was, if you're striving for perfection, you will be sorely disappointed, because no team is perfect.
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2010, 11:20:33 PM »

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I'm sorry, BBD is NOT going to be (SHOULDN'T BE) traded!

Now, you ALWAYS need to see if you can get better, through play or other players! Ask the Cavs about win streaks and good regular seasons. We know that we need someone to fill in a hole, whether we make trades or pick up a bought out player... we need another wing! Even if we have everyone healthy for the playoffs, there is no way any of you can convince me we don't need a wing (especially a long range shooter)... if Shaq is a bench player, who are the shooters around him? Let's look at the bench line-up if KP is fully ready to go...

DWest, Nate, Quis, BBD, and Shaq
DWest, Nate, Quis, BBD, and JO
DWest, Nate, Quis, JO, and Shaq
DWest, Nate, Quis, BBD and JO

to me, I can only see one of those guys spacing the floor for Shaq and that's Nate! It is a fact that Shaq NEEDS shooters. Now, imagine any of those line-ups with Perk... how many of those players can get their own? Now, imagine no DWest... the bench with Shaq, Perk, or JO... I'm not convinced we'll be able to make it in the PLAYOFFS IF PP or Ray is hurt (plz no). Yes, we have played w/ a lot of injuries and played very nice... remember though, none of the time w/o the Big Three! Who besides PP and Ray do you trust in the playoffs if we need them on the wing as a starter or critical minutes? Quis, Wafer, DWest and Nate? Then, who do we use for that player off the bench?
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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2010, 12:10:30 AM »

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The reason would be to make the team better. The Celtics aren't perfect -- always room for improvement. It's December and there's a long, very tough road ahead for this team if they hope to hoist a banner. "Don't jinx it" doesn't really fly.

Trading Nate for MP doesn't the team better. Trading Baby for MP doesn't make the team better. But there inevitably will be deals or transactions this year (of all years) that could make this team better, and thankfully Danny Ainge is constantly looking for those opportunities.

I doubt highly that the roster will look just like it does today at the start of the playoffs.

And they never will be perfect, no matter how many trades you propose.  The team is fine as is.  The only thing the team could use, imo is a third wing behind Pierce and Daniels and I think we can get a bought out player for that.

Celts arent perfect, but as long as they are more perfect than the other teams, I am content.

But this is a bad attitude for a GM to take and I'm sure glad Danny wouldn't be so foolish. If there is ever a situation in which you can improve your team, in the short term and long term, you do it. Doesn't matter if you're running away with first place, if theres a move that will improve the team, pull the trigger. If it's a move that will kill chemistry, then its not improving the team and so you have to consider all of these factors. But theres no reason to think that Pietrus would hurt our chemistry if we're trading minor pieces for him.

I wouldn't trade Big Baby for Pietrus, and I really really like Pietrus's game. But Baby is better. I like the OP's idea of Nate and Wafer for him. I would love Pietrus off the bench playing really good D and hitting 3s. He's a more athletic but little worse on D version of Battier. I'm very very happy that he's not on the Magic anymore.

Rondo
Ray
Paul
KG
Shaq

Delonte
Pietrus
Daniels
Baby/JO
Perk/JO

looks like a hell of a team to me. I think Pietrus would be the best perimeter defender on the team the day he walked into the locker room. Maybe 2nd behind Pierce, but maybe first.

Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2010, 12:17:21 AM »

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Phoenix have no need for Nate with Dragic on the squad. They might make the move for Glen Davis though.

I'd love to have Pietrus on the Celtics bench. He'd be an excellent backup wing.

Would you move Davis for Pietrus?  That would be pretty risky without another move to add a dependable big.  If Danny were to get a guy like Dante Cunningham for a pick, then I would definitely give up Baby.
I don't know.

I would want to wait until the final moment before the trading deadline to decide. See how Perkins recovery is going + how the two O'Neals are holding up. Need to be very confident about their health before moving BBD.

It'd be a tough risk to take.

Agree Pietrus would be an ideal backup on the wing.

Agree BBD is a huge risk.

I'd keep BBD and take our chances.

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Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2010, 01:38:46 AM »

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BBD is having a career year. We are in the midst of a 13 game winning streak with a depleted bench and all. Why would we want to make a major line up change by trading our valuable sixth man with Pietrus? I think Marquis can pretty much do what Pietrus offers (though Pietrus may be a better player than Marquis).

Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2010, 02:10:18 AM »

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you'd probably need to trade nate and luke/von to make it work. dont think BBDs contract would match and i wouldnt trade BBD anyway. pietrus would be awesome especially to add some depth on the wing with quise and west (when he returns)handling the ball for the second unit.

Re: Getting Mickael Pietrus
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2010, 03:35:55 AM »

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I'm thinking OJ Mayo, Darrell Arthur and Pietrus for
Nate, Quis, Wafer, picks and/or Bradley/BBD on a three-way or separate trades..
« Last Edit: December 28, 2010, 03:59:42 AM by raynman »