Ongoing NFL draft chat

[Eja117]

I read an interesting point today that due to the QBs in this draft being sorta of an unsure thing, but a lot of teams needing or wanting one teams may want to trade up from the 2nd round, or possibly down to select guys like Locker, Ponder, Mallet, etc in the 20s range.  That is right where the Pats pick and with the Pats not having a QB problem they could be trading out of the slot easily.

eja, that's not what you've said in prior posts!

Well I am concerned that he lost his last three playoff games straight and doesn't scramble any more and isn't a spring chicken, but we clearly have one of the top 7ish QBs in the league for sure

[MBz]

I read an interesting point today that due to the QBs in this draft being sorta of an unsure thing, but a lot of teams needing or wanting one teams may want to trade up from the 2nd round, or possibly down to select guys like Locker, Ponder, Mallet, etc in the 20s range.  That is right where the Pats pick and with the Pats not having a QB problem they could be trading out of the slot easily.

eja, that's not what you've said in prior posts!

Well I am concerned that he lost his last three playoff games straight and doesn't scramble any more and isn't a spring chicken, but we clearly have one of the top 7ish QBs in the league for sure

Yeah I dont think you want to draft a QB now.  He has 4 years left on his contract, next year or the year after you draft a QB high I think, let him sit under Brady for 2 years and groom him for the future.  Hopefully you get lucky and find that Aaron Rodgers/Drew Brees sitting around at the end of round 1/early round 2

[Eja117]

I read an interesting point today that due to the QBs in this draft being sorta of an unsure thing, but a lot of teams needing or wanting one teams may want to trade up from the 2nd round, or possibly down to select guys like Locker, Ponder, Mallet, etc in the 20s range.  That is right where the Pats pick and with the Pats not having a QB problem they could be trading out of the slot easily.

eja, that's not what you've said in prior posts!

Well I am concerned that he lost his last three playoff games straight and doesn't scramble any more and isn't a spring chicken, but we clearly have one of the top 7ish QBs in the league for sure

Yeah I dont think you want to draft a QB now.  He has 4 years left on his contract, next year or the year after you draft a QB high I think, let him sit under Brady for 2 years and groom him for the future.  Hopefully you get lucky and find that Aaron Rodgers/Drew Brees sitting around at the end of round 1/early round 2

exactly....and keep picking QBs in deep rounds. He himself was a 6th rounder compensatory pick

[Eja117]

The Pats history is showing how hard it is to get lucky picking a QB after the 1rst or 2nd round

They have been through a ton of QBs since Brady's beginning and only one or two showed much

Cassell in the 7th was good, but it took 4 years to pan out

They're go now Hoyer seems decent

But there was Kevin O'Connel

Rohan Davey

Michael Bishop when he joined the team

they had Jonathan Crompton briefly recently

Kliff Kingsbury I think

Zac Robinson

Matt Guiterez

Maybe not as many as I thought. Nonetheless

[Cman]

I read an interesting point today that due to the QBs in this draft being sorta of an unsure thing, but a lot of teams needing or wanting one teams may want to trade up from the 2nd round, or possibly down to select guys like Locker, Ponder, Mallet, etc in the 20s range.  That is right where the Pats pick and with the Pats not having a QB problem they could be trading out of the slot easily.

eja, that's not what you've said in prior posts!

Well I am concerned that he lost his last three playoff games straight and doesn't scramble any more and isn't a spring chicken, but we clearly have one of the top 7ish QBs in the league for sure

I know, I know, I was juzt razzing you.
I agree with your idea that the Pats are potentially sitting pretty bc of the number of teams that potentially want to draft a QB in the first two rounds.

[Eja117]

I read an interesting point today that due to the QBs in this draft being sorta of an unsure thing, but a lot of teams needing or wanting one teams may want to trade up from the 2nd round, or possibly down to select guys like Locker, Ponder, Mallet, etc in the 20s range.  That is right where the Pats pick and with the Pats not having a QB problem they could be trading out of the slot easily.

eja, that's not what you've said in prior posts!

Well I am concerned that he lost his last three playoff games straight and doesn't scramble any more and isn't a spring chicken, but we clearly have one of the top 7ish QBs in the league for sure

I know, I know, I was juzt razzing you.
I agree with your idea that the Pats are potentially sitting pretty bc of the number of teams that potentially want to draft a QB in the first two rounds.

I said we shop shop him and never backed off it. I deserve it. Razz away 

[Eja117]

seems like kind of a good site

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011/03/ryan-williams-targeted-by-patriots.html

[Eja117]

This, or some kind of general variation of this would be a dream draft for me

#17  Anthony Castonzo - played 4 positions at the Senior Bowl

#28 - Mike Pouncy - can play two interior line positions.  Look at his bro. He's basically can't miss

#33  Stephen Wisniewski - can also play two interior positions. Uncle played a long time in the NFL


That would solve a lot of problems for a very long time.

Then we could work on finding defensive guys and a WR.   And remember that we still have young defensive guys getting better and Ty Warren and Leigh Bodden coming back

[Eja117]

oh very interesting.  2 day visit for Jake Locker with the Pats.  Reminds me of the visit of Tebow last year

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=6337678

[Cman]

oh very interesting.  2 day visit for Jake Locker with the Pats.  Reminds me of the visit of Tebow last year

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=6337678

Great find.  BB is, of course, just trying to raise the value of his picks....

[Cman]

This, or some kind of general variation of this would be a dream draft for me

#17  Anthony Castonzo - played 4 positions at the Senior Bowl

#28 - Mike Pouncy - can play two interior line positions.  Look at his bro. He's basically can't miss

#33  Stephen Wisniewski - can also play two interior positions. Uncle played a long time in the NFL


That would solve a lot of problems for a very long time.

Then we could work on finding defensive guys and a WR.   And remember that we still have young defensive guys getting better and Ty Warren and Leigh Bodden coming back

I like that you're thinking of the O-Line.  I'd take the first two of those three, trade #33 for a first rounder in 2012, and move up in the 2nd round to pick the best available pass rusher left (Jabaal Sheard?)

[birdwatcher]

This, or some kind of general variation of this would be a dream draft for me

#17  Anthony Castonzo - played 4 positions at the Senior Bowl

#28 - Mike Pouncy - can play two interior line positions.  Look at his bro. He's basically can't miss

#33  Stephen Wisniewski - can also play two interior positions. Uncle played a long time in the NFL


That would solve a lot of problems for a very long time.

Then we could work on finding defensive guys and a WR.   And remember that we still have young defensive guys getting better and Ty Warren and Leigh Bodden coming back

If the Pats are really interested in Mark Ingram, would he go in the first round and would we have to package some picks and move up to get him? I know drafting RB's & QB's in the first round is kinda of a no-no, but it seems like a once in a blue moon chance for a guy like this...We have had good luck at grooming OL's from the later rounds and undrafted FAs.

[Eja117]

Following my theory I wouldn't mind if they drafted their first three picks on the D line.

Like Marvin Austin, corey Luiget, and Adrian Clayborn.

I just want to take a whole problem and solve it for a decade decisively, instead of all this patchwork stuff.


Then we still have a bunch of picks to try to fill in. Tons of picks to address the offensive line and try to get a receiver or a RB

[Eja117]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6343941

Interesting about the safe pick not always being this safe pick.

The safest since 2007 is offensive tackle with only Andre Smith being a bust and the least safe is DE with only Chris Long making it as advertised

[Cman]

One NFL draft site I really like is walterfootball.com.

There is a new feature on there (at least I haven't noticed it in the past) which lists the projected "big board" for each team.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011teamboards.php