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Avery Bradley
« on: November 13, 2010, 01:23:04 PM »

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When will we see something from this guy?
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 01:31:21 PM »

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Avery Bradley is the future not the present. A bright future not a dull one like JR Giddens.

Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 01:35:33 PM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Unless there are injuries/suspensions for 2 of Rondo, West and Nate, he won't see anything but the scarcest of garbage time minutes.

A shame too.  I think if he hadn't been injured through training camp and most of preseason, he could have had a shot at some back-up guard minutes just by virtue of his defensive ability.  Doc's lack of trust in Wafer's defense is leading to a lot of minutes for Ray.


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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 01:41:15 PM »

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The dude is 19 and coming off an ankle injury.  He's been on the inactive list for games.  He's probably stuck there unless someone is injured.  He's caught in a bit of a numbers game.  With healthier centers, Erden wouldn't be getting playing time and Harangody wouldn't be needed as an emergency PF, so a slot would theoretically be open for Bradley, if healthy.

He has a chance to play against Memphis because Jermaine O'Neal went back to Boston, Perk is out, and West is still suspended, so he will make the active roster, at least, and you'd like to think Boston can blow out the Grizzlies.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2010, 02:22:52 PM »

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Does anyone know if he's practicing. I know he isn't expected to get any playing time but I hope he is able to at least practice and get better.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 02:35:35 PM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Nate will be there for more than scraps. His minutes will be comparable to Delonte's. 

Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2010, 03:15:39 PM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Nate will be there for more than scraps. His minutes will be comparable to Delonte's. 

Right now Nate's getting 7-8mpg as the primary back-up to Rondo and little 4-5 minute spurts as a tiny 2-guard next to Rondo.  Once D-West enters the rotation he's going to have 1st dibs on both of those roles.  Nate's going to be left with the little bits of time that Marquis has been putting in at 2-guard.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2010, 03:28:43 PM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Nate will be there for more than scraps. His minutes will be comparable to Delonte's. 

Right now Nate's getting 7-8mpg as the primary back-up to Rondo and little 4-5 minute spurts as a tiny 2-guard next to Rondo.  Once D-West enters the rotation he's going to have 1st dibs on both of those roles.  Nate's going to be left with the little bits of time that Marquis has been putting in at 2-guard.

eh, I disagree. Nate's been struggling. He's better when he's able to just shoot, not worry about setting the offense. Luckily, Delonte can man the point on the offense which allows Nate to play the off-guard - which we got to see a little of during the preseason. If anything, I expect them to play a lot TOGETHER, not instead of one another.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2010, 03:48:18 PM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Nate will be there for more than scraps. His minutes will be comparable to Delonte's. 

Right now Nate's getting 7-8mpg as the primary back-up to Rondo and little 4-5 minute spurts as a tiny 2-guard next to Rondo.  Once D-West enters the rotation he's going to have 1st dibs on both of those roles.  Nate's going to be left with the little bits of time that Marquis has been putting in at 2-guard.

eh, I disagree. Nate's been struggling. He's better when he's able to just shoot, not worry about setting the offense. Luckily, Delonte can man the point on the offense which allows Nate to play the off-guard - which we got to see a little of during the preseason. If anything, I expect them to play a lot TOGETHER, not instead of one another.

At whose expense?  There aren't a lot of minutes to go around.  Rondo's likely going to be a 38mpg guy and Ray's probably going to be around 35mpg. And it's not like they're always going to be off the floor at the same time.  As is the case with Baby, the  bench guy who provides the most line-up flexibility will get the lion's share of the minutes.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2010, 04:03:45 PM »

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Right now Nate's getting 7-8mpg as the primary back-up to Rondo and little 4-5 minute spurts as a tiny 2-guard next to Rondo.  Once D-West enters the rotation he's going to have 1st dibs on both of those roles.  Nate's going to be left with the little bits of time that Marquis has been putting in at 2-guard.

Ideally, Delonte West starts off by taking 5-6 minutes from Ray Allen.  Then, he takes a few minutes that Daniels takes at SG, while Daniels is freed up to take 2-3 more minutes from Pierce to get Paul and Ray under 35 mpg.  And West takes the 5mpg that Wafer has played in 2/3 of the Celtics games.  And instead of taking away the minutes Nate plays next to Rondo, he takes away the minutes that Rondo plays next to Nate, as Rondo drops down to something more like 36 mpg.

I could see 15 each for Daniels and West and 9-10 for Nate as a reasonable allocation of minutes.  That's a drop of 2-3 minutes for Robinson and Daniels.

The funny thing about Delonte West coming back is that, with the emergence of Semih Erden, it gives Doc a full complement of players he can trust so that he can wheel out that no-starters lineup in the middle of halves that drives some people around here batty.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2010, 05:06:35 PM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Unless there are injuries/suspensions for 2 of Rondo, West and Nate, he won't see anything but the scarcest of garbage time minutes.

A shame too.  I think if he hadn't been injured through training camp and most of preseason, he could have had a shot at some back-up guard minutes just by virtue of his defensive ability.  Doc's lack of trust in Wafer's defense is leading to a lot of minutes for Ray.






I think Nate will may play a bit more minutes when Delonte is back. He'll move to the 2 where he is better suited and played most of the preseason

Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2010, 01:28:35 AM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Nate will be there for more than scraps. His minutes will be comparable to Delonte's. 

Right now Nate's getting 7-8mpg as the primary back-up to Rondo and little 4-5 minute spurts as a tiny 2-guard next to Rondo.  Once D-West enters the rotation he's going to have 1st dibs on both of those roles.  Nate's going to be left with the little bits of time that Marquis has been putting in at 2-guard.

eh, I disagree. Nate's been struggling. He's better when he's able to just shoot, not worry about setting the offense. Luckily, Delonte can man the point on the offense which allows Nate to play the off-guard - which we got to see a little of during the preseason. If anything, I expect them to play a lot TOGETHER, not instead of one another.

Agree with this one. West coming in would mean more rest for Allen and Rondo and being able to use a solid 10 man rotation.

It's just this, while West was on suspension, it was usually Nate, Allen/Pierce/Rondo, Marquis, Baby and Semih. Now would be just Nate, West, Daniels, Baby and Semih. Definitely not going to be less than the usual mins for Nate but more rest for Allen/Pierce/Rondo.

Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2010, 01:44:33 AM »

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Probably nothing this year.  West is going to absorb most of the guard minutes off the bench (including some of Nate's) and Nate will be there for any scraps. 

Nate will be there for more than scraps. His minutes will be comparable to Delonte's. 

Right now Nate's getting 7-8mpg as the primary back-up to Rondo and little 4-5 minute spurts as a tiny 2-guard next to Rondo.  Once D-West enters the rotation he's going to have 1st dibs on both of those roles.  Nate's going to be left with the little bits of time that Marquis has been putting in at 2-guard.

eh, I disagree. Nate's been struggling. He's better when he's able to just shoot, not worry about setting the offense. Luckily, Delonte can man the point on the offense which allows Nate to play the off-guard - which we got to see a little of during the preseason. If anything, I expect them to play a lot TOGETHER, not instead of one another.

Agree with this one. West coming in would mean more rest for Allen and Rondo and being able to use a solid 10 man rotation.

It's just this, while West was on suspension, it was usually Nate, Allen/Pierce/Rondo, Marquis, Baby and Semih. Now would be just Nate, West, Daniels, Baby and Semih. Definitely not going to be less than the usual mins for Nate but more rest for Allen/Pierce/Rondo.

Yeah, West shouldn't affect Nate's minutes too much. Rondo is currently playing 41 mpg, but that's with 3 OT games and only one blowout, so that number is a little inflated. I think he should see around 37-38 for the rest of the year (John Stockton should be happy about this).

That's around 10 minutes for Nate at PG, and around 15 for West at SG behind Ray.
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Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2010, 01:59:50 AM »

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West, because of his versatility, ability to play PG, and ability to shoot will be the primary guard off the bench within about a month.  He [dang] well will take minutes from Nate and Quis.  So in the end, it will be Quis and Nate that will have to fight for back up minutes, especially once the playoffs start.

Re: Avery Bradley
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2010, 02:22:32 AM »

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When will we see something from this guy?
I think it's possible Luke H is ahead of him so maybe not for a while.