Rondos efficiency is mind boggling!

[Celtics/Run]

EFF+ 26.40

[cornbreadsmart]

As stated in the epic movie Coming to America, "That boy is goood!"

[pearljammer10]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....























Sorry, I felt like raining on the parade. Crazy stat that is.

[Fafnir]

Efficiency is a junk stat, the fact that Rondo is ranked that highly with it is impressive.

Of course if he jacked up 10 more shots a game and made 1/4th of them his efficiency would be even higher....

[Steve Weinman]

Efficiency is a junk stat, the fact that Rondo is ranked that highly with it is impressive.

Of course if he jacked up 10 more shots a game and made 1/4th of them his efficiency would be even higher....

Hopes of some APBRmetrics activism spurred by "efficiency" in the title were quickly dashed for me as well, Faf.

So it goes.

-sw

[guava_wrench]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....

Have you actually looked at his assist to TO ratio? It is pretty good.

[pearljammer10]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....

Have you actually looked at his assist to TO ratio? It is pretty good.

I mean Im not gonna look at assist to TO ratio when his assists are influxed to 17 assists per game... He's averaging 4 TO's per game, I dont give a crap what his assist to TO ratio is, that's a lot of turnovers.

[guava_wrench]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....

Have you actually looked at his assist to TO ratio? It is pretty good.

I mean Im not gonna look at assist to TO ratio when his assists are influxed to 17 assists per game... He's averaging 4 TO's per game, I dont give a crap what his assist to TO ratio is, that's a lot of turnovers.

Do you mean 'inflated' to 17 assists?

Not a big deal. He is handling the ball a lot, so of course he will get more of the TOs. 4 is not a big deal. Steve Nash has had many seasons in the high 3's. Stockton was in the mid 3's in his top assist seasons.

Magic had a season with 4.6 TOs per game where he only averaged 13.1 assists, considerably less than what rondo is averaging. That was in only 38 mpg. Rondo is playing 41.6 MPG.

So you should give a crap, because what you are saying really does not reflect reality. Rondo is close to a reasonable number.

It was impressive that Rondo started the last game with 7 assists and 6 TOs, and then did not have another TO for the rest of the game. He adjusted and protected the ball better.

Even last season, Rondo had a great assist to turnover ratio. If you refuse to look at that and look instead at raw TOs, you will not be satisfied with a top passing PG because they get turnovers while also causing easy baskets for teammates.

You should also realize that when only a few games have been played, numbers get skewed by single games.

[Birdbrain]

There are a lot of junk stats.  He's pretty extraordinary sans any stat, IMHO.

[BballTim]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....

Have you actually looked at his assist to TO ratio? It is pretty good.

I mean Im not gonna look at assist to TO ratio when his assists are influxed to 17 assists per game... He's averaging 4 TO's per game, I dont give a crap what his assist to TO ratio is, that's a lot of turnovers.

  He's scoring or assisting about half of our points. Is 4 turnovers a game for 49 or so points scored a lot of turnovers? I'd say the opposite is true.

[Greenbean]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....

Have you actually looked at his assist to TO ratio? It is pretty good.

I mean Im not gonna look at assist to TO ratio when his assists are influxed to 17 assists per game... He's averaging 4 TO's per game, I dont give a crap what his assist to TO ratio is, that's a lot of turnovers.

  He's scoring or assisting about half of our points. Is 4 turnovers a game for 49 or so points scored a lot of turnovers? I'd say the opposite is true.

The point of looking at the ratio is to normalize the turnover stat. if the guy has the ball in his hands enough to get 17 apg, then 4to/g isnt bad.

I do agree that the turnover problem for the Celts starts and ends with Rondo and the way he dictates the game. However, you cant just ignore the asst/to ratio

[BballTim]

His turnovers are pretty mind boggling as well....

Have you actually looked at his assist to TO ratio? It is pretty good.

I mean Im not gonna look at assist to TO ratio when his assists are influxed to 17 assists per game... He's averaging 4 TO's per game, I dont give a crap what his assist to TO ratio is, that's a lot of turnovers.

  He's scoring or assisting about half of our points. Is 4 turnovers a game for 49 or so points scored a lot of turnovers? I'd say the opposite is true.

The point of looking at the ratio is to normalize the turnover stat. if the guy has the ball in his hands enough to get 17 apg, then 4to/g isnt bad.

  Obviously.

I do agree that the turnover problem for the Celts starts and ends with Rondo and the way he dictates the game. However, you cant just ignore the asst/to ratio

  While I've missed parts of most of the games, I don't think Rondo's really responsible for the other turnovers. He's handling the ball a lot more than last year but the turnovers from the rest of the team hasn't gone down despite the amount of time Rondo has the ball.