Who to drop one tp for first advices

[Redz]

How do the statistics work? How do you evaluate the teams? PER based on something else?

There are 9 categories.  REB, AST, STL, BLK, FG%, FT%, PTS, 3PFG, & Turnovers.  You compete against a different team each week.  If you win a category by getting more of them (except TO's which you want fewer), you get a point.  Each match has 9 available points.  Some leagues play for 1 point a week - meaning whether you win 9-0 or 5-4 it goes in the books as a weekly win.  We count all of the points so you get partial credit if you lose 5-4.

This is our first year for this league. What I like about the format we use is that it's a long term keeper league with salaries for guys based on how much teams pay in an auction (the 100 page thread we were working on since August!)

[nickagneta]

I gotta agree with TB....Edgar's team is better.

[fairweatherfan]

Team A

PG - OJ Mayo, Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, Mo Williams
SG - JR Smith, Anthony Morrow
SF - Carlos Delfino
PF - Amare Stoudemire, Marcus Camby, Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair, Anthony Randolph, Andris Biedrins, Charlie Villanueva
C - Andrew Bogut

Team B

PG - Brandon Jennings, Nate Robinson, Chris Duhon, Mike Bibby
SG - Jason Richardson, Martell Webster, Mike Dunleavy, Arron Afflalo, Rudy Fernandez
SF - Luol Deng, Josh Childress
PF - Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge, Shawn Marion
C - Al Horford, Emeka Okafor

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What does Team A have against wing players?

Coincidental I guess.  There are no positional requirements.  I general load up on big men because I find them valuable trade assets.  Teams don't have to be built for practicality purposes.

Ha, I took the exact opposite approach - almost no bigs and as many stat-stuffer wings as I could get my hands on. 

Lot of different approaches in the league - it'll be interesting to see what kind of strategies come out ahead in this format.

[thirstyboots18]

Redz, is team A yours?  I have to tell you that I have never liked Camby.  I have no particular reason, except that he cost his college when he accepted money, and that he always seems to get injured at inopportune times.  I just...don't trust his judgement.  I realize that a lot of people put his value much higher then I do.

He gets a ton of blocks.  There's no points for love or hate in Fantasy hoops TB, just numbers!

It's funny they can strip the Final Four appearance away from the record, but I was there at the Meadowlands rooting my rear end off for UMASS, and it most assuredly happened! 

Going just by numbers, how many blocks will Camby get when he is nursing his injuries on the bench? Does this fantasy league last the whole season?

[Edgar]

Team A

PG - OJ Mayo, Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, Mo Williams
SG - JR Smith, Anthony Morrow
SF - Carlos Delfino
PF - Amare Stoudemire, Marcus Camby, Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair, Anthony Randolph, Andris Biedrins, Charlie Villanueva
C - Andrew Bogut

Team B

PG - Brandon Jennings, Nate Robinson, Chris Duhon, Mike Bibby
SG - Jason Richardson, Martell Webster, Mike Dunleavy, Arron Afflalo, Rudy Fernandez
SF - Luol Deng, Josh Childress
PF - Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge, Shawn Marion
C - Al Horford, Emeka Okafor

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What does Team A have against wing players?

Coincidental I guess.  There are no positional requirements.  I general load up on big men because I find them valuable trade assets.  Teams don't have to be built for practicality purposes.

Ha, I took the exact opposite approach - almost no bigs and as many stat-stuffer wings as I could get my hands on. 

Lot of different approaches in the league - it'll be interesting to see what kind of strategies come out ahead in this format.

I usually do the same

this year I will only pray the bigs FG% and blocks keeps me in the game

When i realize my most expensive players were Aldrige, horford and Griffin theres no much to do on that
Redz and yourstruly approach was very alike on this
I realize position doesnt matter waaaay after draft start
s I just try to cover all cats as usual
I still think i have  a long chance of not being last

p.s. If i knew better i probably followed the guard route as usual
this time i will try to do it with bigs at least my bigs are darn good ...or...the only bigs on their teams

[Redz]

I gotta agree with TB....Edgar's team is better.

OK, I guess I need to defend my team a bit.

First off, there are a ton more things to consider about the rosters you see, then just how they look on a lienup card.  We have salaries for guys, and I like the look of my team much better in that category.  Secondly we have farm rosters for rookies, where I have a bunch of guys not listed.  3rd we have future draft picks, off which I've acquired a 1st rounder in additional to my own.

In way of a cheapo statistical analysis, we use CBS for our scoring system.  They can tell us what % of all owners using their system own each player.  Now, this is not fool proof,but it is pretty decent gauge for how useful a player is to a wide audience of owners.

Using each of our 15 man rosters here are the total percentages

Edgar's team: 839
My team: 1189

Meaning, on average Edgar's players are owned by 56% of all owners, and mine is owned by 79% of all owners.  That's a pretty wide margin.

My team is much deeper.  And that goes a long way in this format.

and TB, I figure Camby is good for 150 blocks.  I don't care when he gets them.  He played 74 games last year.

[Who]

How do the statistics work? How do you evaluate the teams? PER based on something else?

There are 9 categories.  REB, AST, STL, BLK, FG%, FT%, PTS, 3PFG, & Turnovers.  You compete against a different team each week.  If you win a category by getting more of them (except TO's which you want fewer), you get a point.  Each match has 9 available points.  Some leagues play for 1 point a week - meaning whether you win 9-0 or 5-4 it goes in the books as a weekly win.  We count all of the points so you get partial credit if you lose 5-4.

Assuming totals rather than per minute production + 15th men's stat line matter equally as probable starters

Okay, so Team A vs Team B

Team A

PG - OJ Mayo, Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, Mo Williams
SG - JR Smith, Anthony Morrow
SF - Carlos Delfino
PF - Amare Stoudemire, Marcus Camby, Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair, Anthony Randolph, Andris Biedrins, Charlie Villanueva
C - Andrew Bogut

Team B

PG - Brandon Jennings, Nate Robinson, Chris Duhon, Mike Bibby
SG - Jason Richardson, Martell Webster, Mike Dunleavy, Arron Afflalo, Rudy Fernandez
SF - Luol Deng, Josh Childress
PF - Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge, Shawn Marion
C - Al Horford, Emeka Okafor

Team A's extra number of bigs should win them the REB category. 1-0

Jeez, not a lot of AST guys on either squad, both teams should be in trouble against other opponents. I'll go for Team B here. Close call though, depends on the given week. 1-1.

Team B should comfortably win STL category. 1-2

Team A should win out in BLKs. 2-2.

Team A has a lot of perimeter players with low FG% who take a large number of shots so I am going to go with Team B (despite Brandon Jennings' best efforts). 2-3.

I am thinking Team A here (FT%). Griffin is a dodgy FT shooter and he'll be getting to the line the most for Team B. Not sure on some of the other guys FT% though. 3-3.

Ah, points, Team A by a small margin. Team A's point production will be quite streaky though so it depends on the week you catch them. 4-3.

Three point field goals, I'll go with Team B here. More wings, less bigs. 4-4.

Final category, the decider, turnovers. I don't have a clue. I am thinking that minutes work against a team here so the team with more regular rotation guys, guys who earn heavy minutes, will be the more likely to lose. Team A's guards play more minutes + Delfino and JR on the wings, I am thinking they cost them the battle here. 4-5.

Team B in a close win. They won with AST, STL, FG%, 3FGs and Turnovers.

Team A got PTS, REB, BLK and FT%.

[Redz]

well, we'll keep you posted on how things work out.

I feel pretty confident about my team be being better than Edgar's but it's a 12 team league, and honestly I think I'm in the middle of the pack.

[Edgar]

yup
the guards based teams are MONSTRUOS
I dont consider my team champion material
but against Redz analysis
my team is made of non wanted players who happens to be better
than most people think
as some pointed
Affalo, Dunleavy, Griffin himself have been uncerwanted this year
they will all have great stats and they will keep me on float
over other teams on decadence or hoping Kobe have a great year
or pierce...sorry  (stat wise)

p.s. sadly i wasnt able to put my hands on tyreeke but i can live with jennings

[thirstyboots18]

As I said before, I really do not "get" fantasy sports.  I will probably never understand it, Redz and Edgar.  Intangebles mean too much to me, and also team chemistry.  I will just continue to NOT participate, and watch from the sidelines. 

[Redz]

The Crotors face the Angry Pickles head to head this week.

So far my team is 11-7-0 and Edgar's is 9-9-0.

If we had faced each other head to head for the first two weeks my team would have a 12-5-1 record.

It's early, but I trust my boys to keep up their superior than Crotor effort.   

[fairweatherfan]

The Crotors face the Angry Pickles head to head this week.

So far my team is 11-7-0 and Edgar's is 9-9-0.

If we had faced each other head to head for the first two weeks my team would have a 12-5-1 record.

It's early, but I trust my boys to keep up their superior than Crotor effort.   

The Kentucky Mean were very happy to go 5-4 against the Pickles, as the Pickles are a lot stronger than they appeared at first.  Outbidding me for Dorell Wright sure didn't hurt either. 

[Edgar]

The Crotors face the Angry Pickles head to head this week.

So far my team is 11-7-0 and Edgar's is 9-9-0.

If we had faced each other head to head for the first two weeks my team would have a 12-5-1 record.

It's early, but I trust my boys to keep up their superior than Crotor effort.   

After a slow start withour griffin and afflalo
the crotors are like all my teams
ready to over or under perform
but always a surprise.
My team is only getting better as weeks goes by
so dont count me out  my clownish amigo


p.s. Not after hobbs beat me in the other league with 6 against 11 players
anything can happend

[Redz]

The Crotors face the Angry Pickles head to head this week.

So far my team is 11-7-0 and Edgar's is 9-9-0.

If we had faced each other head to head for the first two weeks my team would have a 12-5-1 record.

It's early, but I trust my boys to keep up their superior than Crotor effort.   

The Kentucky Mean were very happy to go 5-4 against the Pickles, as the Pickles are a lot stronger than they appeared at first.  Outbidding me for Dorell Wright sure didn't hurt either. 

It's funny how the matchups work.  I would have beaten most teams in Week 1, but didn't match up well with yours.

[Edgar]

The Crotors face the Angry Pickles head to head this week.

So far my team is 11-7-0 and Edgar's is 9-9-0.

If we had faced each other head to head for the first two weeks my team would have a 12-5-1 record.

It's early, but I trust my boys to keep up their superior than Crotor effort.   

The Kentucky Mean were very happy to go 5-4 against the Pickles, as the Pickles are a lot stronger than they appeared at first.  Outbidding me for Dorell Wright sure didn't hurt either. 

It's funny how the matchups work.  I would have beaten most teams in Week 1, but didn't match up well with yours.

I thought this last week i should beat the majority
is that false?
I think i am not used to the scoring metodology of the site yet
I dont like the add drop mechanics nor the day to day stats
either.

but still
crotors will prevail