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Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 10:04:37 PM »

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I guess. If any of us care about the records of these D-League teams (or MiLB teams). I personally don't care how well the teams do in the minors as much as the blue-chip prospects.



Sounds more like a luxury than an asset.

Portland is a great minor league town, and a lot of the fans care about wins and losses.  The Sea Dogs (Red Sox baseball) and Pirates (Capitals (?) hockey) are followed very closely, even though the majority of guys never make the majors.

I think you're right that this is a luxury, but that's not the worst thing in the world, right?  Even if the competitive advantage is a small one, that's better than none at all.  To use an example, Mario West was with the Red Claws last year.  They got a look at him, and decided that he was worth an invite to camp. 

I can understand that stance even though I don't live in a small city. The competitive atmosphere at any level is always beneficial (especially when you hear the occasional 40ppg Al Jefferson high school stories). But for the actual franchise, I don't think the organization's truly worry about the record of their farm systems as much as they do their top prospects progress.

Mario West was signed by the Hawks after his stint in the D-League with Maine?
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Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 10:05:10 PM »

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There is no way that we can cut a player and retain his rights.

Sorry...

But to the extent that our cut players play for our D-League affiliate, we'll be able to monitor them more closely and at times see how they play with the guys we send down that are on our actual roster.

It also may provide incentive to take a camp invite, as it might automatically mean a DL conract offer...

Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 10:08:51 PM »

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Mario West was signed by the Hawks after his stint in the D-League with Maine?

No, Mario West was signed by the Red Claws after his stint in Atlanta. 

http://www.basketball-reference.com/nbdl/players/w/westma01d.html


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Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 10:15:18 PM »

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Mario West was signed by the Hawks after his stint in the D-League with Maine?

No, Mario West was signed by the Red Claws after his stint in Atlanta. 

http://www.basketball-reference.com/nbdl/players/w/westma01d.html

Ahh, I see.

I seldom monitored the Red Claws the past few seasons, but I may check more often if a few of these camp guys end up there.
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Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 11:11:50 PM »

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If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.


Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

Late to the party on this, but for what it's worth, Roy's interpretation (quoted above) is on par with my understanding of the rule as well.

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Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2010, 05:44:45 AM »

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Mario West was signed by the Hawks after his stint in the D-League with Maine?

No, Mario West was signed by the Red Claws after his stint in Atlanta. 

Mario West played for Maine in the D-League between two separate stints with Atlanta.  The first stint was two seasons, the second was a set of two ten-day contracts before being signed for the rest of the season.

One possible advantage to placing cuts on the D-League is that the new CBA may change things.  If they stash a few projects in Maine, the Celtics may gain additional rights over those players when a new agreement is reached.
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Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2010, 08:46:43 AM »

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Not a fan of this three cut rules. Especially when we "share" affiliation with the Bobcats. That is kind of ridiculous. I feel like this rule greatly limits what both teams are trying to accomplish in developing their younger players. I think the NBA needs to create a complete "minor league" system with affiliates for each team. Just look at the model for baseball and how well that has worked. None of this sharing affiliates stuff.

Re: More on the D-League "last three cut" rule
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2010, 09:12:28 AM »

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If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.


Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

Late to the party on this, but for what it's worth, Roy's interpretation (quoted above) is on par with my understanding of the rule as well.

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thanks Steve!

I like that it is a step in the direction of a more unified minor league system.  Hopefully it will keep the process moving in the right direction.
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