More on the D-League "last three cut" rule

[Roy H.]

In other words, three of the four remaining players in Boston's camp with non-guaranteed contracts could conceivably play for the Celtics' D-League club, the Maine Red Claws.

However, there are a couple of potential snafus.

Those players would have to agree to sign a D-League contract, which is significantly less money than they would make with a minimum NBA salary, or overseas.

Also, D-League teams can only take a total of three players cut, and not three players from each of their parent clubs.

In addition to the Celtics, the Maine Red Claws are also the D-League affiliate for the Charlotte Bobcats.

If the Celtics really like the potential of all four players still in camp, one possible scenario would be to sign Von Wafer (he's already partially guaranteed $150,000), and have Lasme, West and Gallon sign a D-League contract with the Red Claws.

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I hadn't heard the underlined part before.  I'm presuming that Maine would take the three players we asked them to, since they seem more closely affiliated with the Celts.  Still, it's something not to take for granted.

[GreenEnvy]

Are they saying we can't send 6 players (last three cut and 13-15 inactive)?

So let's say hypothetically we are to cut Mario West, Tiny Gallon and Stephane Lasme.

That means we can send all three to Maine, barring they agree to the NBDL contract (if such was offered by Maine?) AND they were not offered one by another NBA team.

If all three were signed by Maine (and not by another club), they would be our property and we would NOT be allowed to send any other players like Bradley, Harangody, Erden, or even Perk for rehab?


The NBA should discuss "minor league" contracts in the upcoming CBA.

[kozlodoev]

Are they saying we can't send 6 players (last three cut and 13-15 inactive)?

Nope, they're saying that the DL team can sign 3 players total from the last cuts of all their NBA affiliates, not 3 from each team in the case of multiple .

This has nothing to do with designating players for assignment -- those are on the NBA affiliate's roster, and not on NBDL contracts.

[lon3lytoaster]

Are they saying we can't send 6 players (last three cut and 13-15 inactive)?

So let's say hypothetically we are to cut Mario West, Tiny Gallon and Stephane Lasme.

That means we can send all three to Maine, barring they agree to the NBDL contract (if such was offered by Maine?) AND they were not offered one by another NBA team.

If all three were signed by Maine (and not by another club), they would be our property and we would NOT be allowed to send any other players like Bradley, Harangody, Erden, or even Perk for rehab?


The NBA should discuss "minor league" contracts in the upcoming CBA.

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

HowEVAH (channeling my inner Stephen A.) if they were to be signed by Maine they wouldn't have any connection to the Celtics other than the affiliation deal, which really doesn't mean anything because they can still sign with any NBA team that offers them a contract. Guaranteed or otherwise.

[lon3lytoaster]

Are they saying we can't send 6 players (last three cut and 13-15 inactive)?

No, they're saying that if a DL team has more than 1 parent club, then they can't take 3 players cut from each club, but 3 players total. Since the Red Claws are only affiliated with the Cs, it doesn't look like this provision applies.

We're also affiliated with Charlotte, actually.

[kozlodoev]

Are they saying we can't send 6 players (last three cut and 13-15 inactive)?

No, they're saying that if a DL team has more than 1 parent club, then they can't take 3 players cut from each club, but 3 players total. Since the Red Claws are only affiliated with the Cs, it doesn't look like this provision applies.

We're also affiliated with Charlotte, actually.

I've corrected my post, *blink-bilnk*

[Who]

Is there anyone on the Bobcats that they might be interested in sending down there under this rule?

I don't think so ... unless Crittenton is willing to play for that small contract which I doubt.

[Roy H.]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

[lon3lytoaster]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

Hm. I'm not sure how that makes sense.. I mean, not what you just said but why they only take three total.

Why not just make it four and give both teams two each? I know some teams only have one parent club.. but still. Just make it the last four cut instead of three.

I'm probably overthinking the whole situation, I doubt we see six players wanting to sign in the D-Leauge anyway. I'd assume 3-4 of those guys would pick Europe instead.

[GreenEnvy]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

And say hypothetically they chose all three of Charlotte's players over ours, does that mean we keep their rights?

Better yet, what rights do we have to them (again, hypothetically Lasme, West, Gallon) anyway?

[Roy H.]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

And say hypothetically they chose all three of Charlotte's players over ours, does that mean we keep their rights?

Better yet, what rights do we have to them (again, hypothetically Lasme, West, Gallon) anyway?

If we cut them, we wouldn't technically have their "rights".  They'd still be free to sign with any NBA team or go overseas (or I suppose play for a non D-League minor league, as well, although I don't know why they'd want to.)

However, by playing with our affiliate, they'd be under the eye of Danny's son, Austin Ainge, who is the coach of the Red Claws.  Maine would be running our sets, and at times, working with our players.  If a spot opened up on our roster, the team would have inside info on the players, and could make a better evaluation on whether it makes sense to sign them.

[GreenEnvy]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

And say hypothetically they chose all three of Charlotte's players over ours, does that mean we keep their rights?

Better yet, what rights do we have to them (again, hypothetically Lasme, West, Gallon) anyway?

If we cut them, we wouldn't technically have their "rights".  They'd still be free to sign with any NBA team or go overseas (or I suppose play for a non D-League minor league, as well, although I don't know why they'd want to.)

However, by playing with our affiliate, they'd be under the eye of Danny's son, Austin Ainge, who is the coach of the Red Claws.  Maine would be running our sets, and at times, working with our players.  If a spot opened up on our roster, the team would have inside info on the players, and could make a better evaluation on whether it makes sense to sign them.

But couldn't Maine just draft our cut players to get a better look for the C's (assuming there is a draft. To be honest I am not sure how it works exactly)?

This new rule sounded a whole lot better when announced then it really is.

[Roy H.]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

And say hypothetically they chose all three of Charlotte's players over ours, does that mean we keep their rights?

Better yet, what rights do we have to them (again, hypothetically Lasme, West, Gallon) anyway?

If we cut them, we wouldn't technically have their "rights".  They'd still be free to sign with any NBA team or go overseas (or I suppose play for a non D-League minor league, as well, although I don't know why they'd want to.)

However, by playing with our affiliate, they'd be under the eye of Danny's son, Austin Ainge, who is the coach of the Red Claws.  Maine would be running our sets, and at times, working with our players.  If a spot opened up on our roster, the team would have inside info on the players, and could make a better evaluation on whether it makes sense to sign them.

But couldn't Maine just draft our cut players to get a better look for the C's (assuming there is a draft. To be honest I am not sure how it works exactly)?

This new rule sounded a whole lot better when announced then it really is.

]

Well, why waste a draft pick if the league is going to funnel talented players to you, right?  I think it's just another step along the long path to the D-League becoming a true feeder league.

[GreenEnvy]

If we cut West, Lasme and Gallon and they all wanted to play in the NBDL, they would only be allowed to sign with Maine is what I'm understanding of this. It doesn't effect our ability to assign two of Bradley, Erden or Harangody, though.

Here's how I read the provision:  if Boston and Charlotte both cut three players each, and all six want to play in the D-League, it will be up to Maine to choose what three they want.  The other players would go into the D-League draft and/or would be assigned to teams following standard D-League rules.

I would assume that Maine would just sign the three guys that Boston asked them to.

And say hypothetically they chose all three of Charlotte's players over ours, does that mean we keep their rights?

Better yet, what rights do we have to them (again, hypothetically Lasme, West, Gallon) anyway?

If we cut them, we wouldn't technically have their "rights".  They'd still be free to sign with any NBA team or go overseas (or I suppose play for a non D-League minor league, as well, although I don't know why they'd want to.)

However, by playing with our affiliate, they'd be under the eye of Danny's son, Austin Ainge, who is the coach of the Red Claws.  Maine would be running our sets, and at times, working with our players.  If a spot opened up on our roster, the team would have inside info on the players, and could make a better evaluation on whether it makes sense to sign them.

But couldn't Maine just draft our cut players to get a better look for the C's (assuming there is a draft. To be honest I am not sure how it works exactly)?

This new rule sounded a whole lot better when announced then it really is.

]

Well, why waste a draft pick if the league is going to funnel talented players to you, right?  I think it's just another step along the long path to the D-League becoming a true feeder league.

I guess. If any of us care about the records of these D-League teams (or MiLB teams). I personally don't care how well the teams do in the minors as much as the blue-chip prospects.



Sounds more like a luxury than an asset.

[Roy H.]

I guess. If any of us care about the records of these D-League teams (or MiLB teams). I personally don't care how well the teams do in the minors as much as the blue-chip prospects.



Sounds more like a luxury than an asset.

Portland is a great minor league town, and a lot of the fans care about wins and losses.  The Sea Dogs (Red Sox baseball) and Pirates (Capitals (?) hockey) are followed very closely, even though the majority of guys never make the majors.

I think you're right that this is a luxury, but that's not the worst thing in the world, right?  Even if the competitive advantage is a small one, that's better than none at all.  To use an example, Mario West was with the Red Claws last year.  They got a look at him, and decided that he was worth an invite to camp.