martial arts, mma, boxing, etc

[zerophase]

I've been doing Taekwondo for over ten years (I have a black belt) but the martial art is very much more a sport than a fighting weapon. However, lately I've been doing both Muay Thai and Jujitsu to get more well rounded but ultimately I plan on training Wing Chun. Wing Chun is not only an extremely effective street martial art but also something you can really grow old doing... I can't say the same for any of the other martial arts.

[manl_lui]

i was curious if any1 on CB does any type of martial art, mma/ufc, boxing, fighting, etc.  if so, i figured there could be a thread to discuss the art, training, provide advise/experience, sparring, gear, etc.

personally, i study shaolin kung fu. i plan to do tai chi soon in order to complete my black belt and for balance (kung fu is an external martial art while tai chi is internal). i am also going to begin taking an intro taekwondo class and will see how that goes, as it is a completely different art (korean).

wow some common interest here

i do shaolin kung fu as well

I do Hung Gar, lineage is directly from Shaolin...i did it for 4 years now, and i love it

nice, tp!

is hung gar a southern style? 

yes, hung gar is a southern style created in the early 1700s, It came directly from the 5 elders of shaolin when shaolin was destroyed by the Qing government...

I've been doing Taekwondo for over ten years (I have a black belt) but the martial art is very much more a sport than a fighting weapon. However, lately I've been doing both Muay Thai and Jujitsu to get more well rounded but ultimately I plan on training Wing Chun. Wing Chun is not only an extremely effective street martial art but also something you can really grow old doing... I can't say the same for any of the other martial arts.

I've came across training with a Wing Chun practitioner while training hung gar, they have similar stance work as us and stresses on close combat

you should check out videos from youtube of Ip Chun who is the son of Ip Man (master of Bruce Lee)

they made 3 movies in 2009 and 2010 starring Donnie Yen (Ip Man 1 and 2) and Ip Man Prequel which Ip Chun makes a cameo

[Eddie20]

Myself, I've trained MMA since early 06. Was hooked immediately after doing a 2 day seminar with Royce Gracie. Started with ATT and now I'm at Carlson Gracie

Cross training is key. You have to train everything in order to be a complete fighter.

[mkogav]

I am currently 6'4" and about 176 pound. Last year when I started BJJ I was a soft 185. After about 4 months, I was down to a skin and bones 167. I just couldn't keep the weight on. Plus, after a hard working, I would feel tired and sore for 2-3 days.

It su#@*ks being in ur 40s.

wow, ur really lean (i mean that in a really good way).  doing kung fu, i want a really lean build.  not only does it help with speed, quickness, conditioning, but it is also easier on the joints. 

how often do u train?  my schedule is so hectic i dont get to attend as many classes as i want.  i take two classes on the weekend for kung fu.  i also do 2 cardio kickboxing classes during the week at a place near my home as well.  i also started tkd, so i go to one class a week for that. 

i do about an hour of kung fu training every evening at home, but as much practice as you do, it never matches an actual class.

im in my mid 30s and they kind suck 

I have a pretty tight schedule. Normally, I get 2-3 classes and 1 personal training in a week. Plus, I lift weights twice a week at home after the kids go to bed.

The classes I attend are at lunch time. Luckily, my job is pretty flexible like that. I really wish I could train more, but life with a full-time job, young kids, and ample time on CB doesn't leave much time for anything else.

It seems that you are getting in a good amount of training. You just need to find an hour or two a week to add in some ground fighting/BJJ

I have always been fascinated with Kung Fu, but have never trained. I understand there are forms, but do u also do breaking? What type of sparring do you do?

I was in China two years ago and was able to catch a televised fight on TV. It was between two guy in full ceremonial-style Kung Fu garb on a game show like stage. It was full contact with no gear. One fighter was in his 50s and the other was maybe 25. It reminded me a bit of Muay Thai as there was no ground fighting, but there were kick/trip style take-downs. It was pretty brutal. The older guy won, but they were both pretty beaten up.

Mk

[Kiwicelt]

Hey Dark Lord,

Wing Tsun is another english language phoneticisation of "Wing Chun" or "Ving Tsun" etc. It is still the same art and the characters are the same in Chinese.

I agree with an earlier poster who said that with Wing tsun you can train well into your dotage - the system is not based on strength or power but skill and coordination and sensitivity. I've been training a friend of mine who suffered a stroke in his early 40's and he has, through training and massage, regained alot of his dexterity.

Having been in training a long time (I'm 44 and it doesn't suck!), I find that if anything, my control, ability to project power, speed and coordination are better than in my 20's. Recovery is longer, but that can be negated somewhat by sensible nuitrition and stretching. I've trained all my life in physical pursuits like power lifting and such so your mileage may vary.

Some of what keeps me going are some of the stories I've heard about Yip Man when he was an old man...an extremely lethal old man....

Cheers
Gary

[zerophase]

i was curious if any1 on CB does any type of martial art, mma/ufc, boxing, fighting, etc.  if so, i figured there could be a thread to discuss the art, training, provide advise/experience, sparring, gear, etc.

personally, i study shaolin kung fu. i plan to do tai chi soon in order to complete my black belt and for balance (kung fu is an external martial art while tai chi is internal). i am also going to begin taking an intro taekwondo class and will see how that goes, as it is a completely different art (korean).

wow some common interest here

i do shaolin kung fu as well

I do Hung Gar, lineage is directly from Shaolin...i did it for 4 years now, and i love it

nice, tp!

is hung gar a southern style?  

yes, hung gar is a southern style created in the early 1700s, It came directly from the 5 elders of shaolin when shaolin was destroyed by the Qing government...

I've been doing Taekwondo for over ten years (I have a black belt) but the martial art is very much more a sport than a fighting weapon. However, lately I've been doing both Muay Thai and Jujitsu to get more well rounded but ultimately I plan on training Wing Chun. Wing Chun is not only an extremely effective street martial art but also something you can really grow old doing... I can't say the same for any of the other martial arts.

I've came across training with a Wing Chun practitioner while training hung gar, they have similar stance work as us and stresses on close combat

you should check out videos from youtube of Ip Chun who is the son of Ip Man (master of Bruce Lee)

they made 3 movies in 2009 and 2010 starring Donnie Yen (Ip Man 1 and 2) and Ip Man Prequel which Ip Chun makes a cameo

I own Ip Man 1 and 2 but have not seen the supposed Ip Man 3 movie with Ip Chun (I have watched the trailer though). Great movies-- I highly recommend them. I've also seen all of Bruce Lee's movies... Kind of lame when compared to the cinematography of these days but very good movies considering the time.

[dark_lord]

Hey Dark Lord,

Wing Tsun is another english language phoneticisation of "Wing Chun" or "Ving Tsun" etc. It is still the same art and the characters are the same in Chinese.

I agree with an earlier poster who said that with Wing tsun you can train well into your dotage - the system is not based on strength or power but skill and coordination and sensitivity. I've been training a friend of mine who suffered a stroke in his early 40's and he has, through training and massage, regained alot of his dexterity.

Having been in training a long time (I'm 44 and it doesn't suck!), I find that if anything, my control, ability to project power, speed and coordination are better than in my 20's. Recovery is longer, but that can be negated somewhat by sensible nuitrition and stretching. I've trained all my life in physical pursuits like power lifting and such so your mileage may vary.

Some of what keeps me going are some of the stories I've heard about Yip Man when he was an old man...an extremely lethal old man....

Cheers
Gary

great stuff...tp!

[dark_lord]

I am currently 6'4" and about 176 pound. Last year when I started BJJ I was a soft 185. After about 4 months, I was down to a skin and bones 167. I just couldn't keep the weight on. Plus, after a hard working, I would feel tired and sore for 2-3 days.

It su#@*ks being in ur 40s.

wow, ur really lean (i mean that in a really good way).  doing kung fu, i want a really lean build.  not only does it help with speed, quickness, conditioning, but it is also easier on the joints. 

how often do u train?  my schedule is so hectic i dont get to attend as many classes as i want.  i take two classes on the weekend for kung fu.  i also do 2 cardio kickboxing classes during the week at a place near my home as well.  i also started tkd, so i go to one class a week for that. 

i do about an hour of kung fu training every evening at home, but as much practice as you do, it never matches an actual class.

im in my mid 30s and they kind suck 

I have a pretty tight schedule. Normally, I get 2-3 classes and 1 personal training in a week. Plus, I lift weights twice a week at home after the kids go to bed.

The classes I attend are at lunch time. Luckily, my job is pretty flexible like that. I really wish I could train more, but life with a full-time job, young kids, and ample time on CB doesn't leave much time for anything else.

It seems that you are getting in a good amount of training. You just need to find an hour or two a week to add in some ground fighting/BJJ

I have always been fascinated with Kung Fu, but have never trained. I understand there are forms, but do u also do breaking? What type of sparring do you do?

I was in China two years ago and was able to catch a televised fight on TV. It was between two guy in full ceremonial-style Kung Fu garb on a game show like stage. It was full contact with no gear. One fighter was in his 50s and the other was maybe 25. It reminded me a bit of Muay Thai as there was no ground fighting, but there were kick/trip style take-downs. It was pretty brutal. The older guy won, but they were both pretty beaten up.

Mk

with regards to breaking, it is done for advanced students and is primarily for earning your black belt.  but for some kung fu practioners, it is frowned down upon as it is more of a showoff type thing.  there is a practice of iron shirt kung fu, which strengthens the body to absorb blows, along with making your impact greater.

with sparring, it depends.  we do a lot of application work and qinna (joint locking and controlling).  we do it in real time for practice, but is not sparring per se.  some students practice sanshou, which sounds like the sparring u saw when u were in china.  it is intense.

[JHTruth]

I train in no-gi BJJ as well as Muay Thai kickboxing with a boxing hands style. So much like Dutch kickboxing.

As for the Kung Fu/Karate/TKD strains of striking arts, be very careful about the school you go to and that it matches your objectives. Many schools that teach these types are very much "form" oriented and contain very little actual combat or fighting components. Trianing in these would be useless in most real fights and in sport fighting.

BJJ + Wrestling is a great grappling combo and pretty much unbeatable on the ground. Again, both emphasize heavy sparring in their training.

Of course, if you just want to look cool and have some fun and get into shape, other arts can serve you well..

[manl_lui]

I train in no-gi BJJ as well as Muay Thai kickboxing with a boxing hands style. So much like Dutch kickboxing.

As for the Kung Fu/Karate/TKD strains of striking arts, be very careful about the school you go to and that it matches your objectives. Many schools that teach these types are very much "form" oriented and contain very little actual combat or fighting components. Trianing in these would be useless in most real fights and in sport fighting.

BJJ + Wrestling is a great grappling combo and pretty much unbeatable on the ground. Again, both emphasize heavy sparring in their training.

Of course, if you just want to look cool and have some fun and get into shape, other arts can serve you well..

yes i agree, many kung fu/karate/TKD martial art schools are form oriented. The Hung Gar Kung fu school i go to in Boston Chinatown teaches form and real life situation combats...

personally i love it, everyone in my school is so nice

[dark_lord]

I train in no-gi BJJ as well as Muay Thai kickboxing with a boxing hands style. So much like Dutch kickboxing.

As for the Kung Fu/Karate/TKD strains of striking arts, be very careful about the school you go to and that it matches your objectives. Many schools that teach these types are very much "form" oriented and contain very little actual combat or fighting components. Trianing in these would be useless in most real fights and in sport fighting.

BJJ + Wrestling is a great grappling combo and pretty much unbeatable on the ground. Again, both emphasize heavy sparring in their training.

Of course, if you just want to look cool and have some fun and get into shape, other arts can serve you well..

yes i agree, many kung fu/karate/TKD martial art schools are form oriented. The Hung Gar Kung fu school i go to in Boston Chinatown teaches form and real life situation combats...

personally i love it, everyone in my school is so nice

i just checked out the schools website....looks good!

its funny u mentioned how nice everyone is at ur school...i say the same thing about mine.  i think a lot of martial artists in general are pleasant, respectful, and maintain honor towards others.  i have yet to meet someone who is arrogant and a jerk in my time training.

[dark_lord]

im curious to know what people use for footwear.  i used to wear the feiyue wushu shoes, but i went thru 3 pair in a year.  i recently bought a pair of do-win wushu shoes, which have been great so far.  i have only used them for a month, but they are comfortable, lightweight, durable, and help improve balance.

[manl_lui]

im curious to know what people use for footwear.  i used to wear the feiyue wushu shoes, but i went thru 3 pair in a year.  i recently bought a pair of do-win wushu shoes, which have been great so far.  i have only used them for a month, but they are comfortable, lightweight, durable, and help improve balance.

i just wear regular casual shoes for training, but yeh i agree, most schools does show respect and are very nice...

[amelia.john011]

You should be careful with the school you go for training of kung fu and meet your goals. Many schools that teach these guys are very form and contain very little actual combat or in combat. Training these would be useless in most real fights and combat sport.

[dark_lord]

You should be careful with the school you go for training of kung fu and meet your goals. Many schools that teach these guys are very form and contain very little actual combat or in combat. Training these would be useless in most real fights and combat sport.

what i learn can be applied to a certain degree. 

i study kung fu for reasons more than application.  my school is perfect for me