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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #165 on: September 08, 2010, 04:18:14 PM »

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3B. Boston has a great tandem in Bogut and Rondo, and nice complementary players in Landry and the volatile Smith. Some questions about the SF position, however. Is Outlaw a legit starter? Is Kapono still a rotation player? What can Ebanks bring? And is Rush a starter in the league?

Rush started Majority of the games for the Pacers last year and can shoot the 3 at a clip of 39% he shot 40% last year and that was with the Pacers. I think playing alongside Rondo that should go up. Rush should be getting the shot's Ray Allen gets when he is alongside Rondo. Outlaw is a starter by default but will probably play backup minutes. I like number of differnt people to be playing at the 2 and 3 out of my group of 2's and 3's with the exception of Kapono who is pry more a three. I think the rest of them can play both the 2 or 3. Ebanks is a great defensive high energy guy. He was normally guarding the best player on the court last few years a West Virgina.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #166 on: September 08, 2010, 04:22:38 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


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DNP
DNP
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From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.

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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #167 on: September 08, 2010, 04:34:46 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


What does Danny Ainge have to do with the Toronto Raptors?

You guys keep getting yourselves confused with the Celtics.

Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #168 on: September 08, 2010, 04:46:28 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


What does Danny Ainge have to do with the Toronto Raptors?

You guys keep getting yourselves confused with the Celtics.

I think Redz was using a real-life example that we're all quite familiar with to argue that it's possible to add viable veterans later in the season.  He didn't say that he has Danny Ainge on the payroll.

It's an interesting argument, and there are some viable free agents left, so hypothetically Toronto could pick up some mediocre players if this was a "real" season.  However, the big difference between this and the real NBA is that with no salary structure, things like buyouts are much less likely.

I see Toronto's team this year a lot like Chicago's last year.  They should make the playoffs based upon front-line talent, and since the Eastern Conference is so competitive, I expect Toronto to play all out to win their division due to playoff seeding.  Once the team makes the playoffs, though, I could see them being exhausted, sort of like the 2009 Celts.


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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #169 on: September 08, 2010, 04:52:20 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


Is it guesswork, though? I've not heard anyone say Perkins will be ready before January. And then he has to get his wind back.

And Toronto doesn't need warm bodies. They need consistent contributions from the bench.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #170 on: September 08, 2010, 05:25:02 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


Is it guesswork, though? I've not heard anyone say Perkins will be ready before January. And then he has to get his wind back.

And Toronto doesn't need warm bodies. They need consistent contributions from the bench.

for spots 12-15 we're looking at warm bodies...I'm just saying either you believe we could fill those spots up or not.  I was defending the notion of us having 11 players on the roster as being a concern.  If the concern is with the actual players we have to work with then that's a different can of worms.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #171 on: September 08, 2010, 05:27:47 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


What does Danny Ainge have to do with the Toronto Raptors?

You guys keep getting yourselves confused with the Celtics.

I am using my allotted eye roll.

 ::)

I was really hoping to use it on something more significant. 

(see Roy's explanation for my intended meaning of the Ainge reference).
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #172 on: September 08, 2010, 05:29:08 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


Is it guesswork, though? I've not heard anyone say Perkins will be ready before January. And then he has to get his wind back.

And Toronto doesn't need warm bodies. They need consistent contributions from the bench.

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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #173 on: September 08, 2010, 05:30:15 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


Is it guesswork, though? I've not heard anyone say Perkins will be ready before January. And then he has to get his wind back.

And Toronto doesn't need warm bodies. They need consistent contributions from the bench.



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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #174 on: September 08, 2010, 05:33:26 PM »

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for spots 12-15 we're looking at warm bodies...I'm just saying either you believe we could fill those spots up or not.  I was defending the notion of us having 11 players on the roster as being a concern.  If the concern is with the actual players we have to work with then that's a different can of worms.

Well, it's a little of both. Your success is so heavily dependent on your veteran starters. But they need capable backups who can allow them to rest and still win games.

I don't think Udoka, Ellington, and Pondexter are up to the task. Those guys should be your deep reserves, not your 9th, 10th, and 11th men.

So, you're not trolling the free agent pool for warm bodies, you're looking for guys to bump those other players further down the bench where they belong.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #175 on: September 08, 2010, 05:37:10 PM »

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for spots 12-15 we're looking at warm bodies...I'm just saying either you believe we could fill those spots up or not.  I was defending the notion of us having 11 players on the roster as being a concern.  If the concern is with the actual players we have to work with then that's a different can of worms.

Well, it's a little of both. Your success is so heavily dependent on your veteran starters. But they need capable backups who can allow them to rest and still win games.

I don't think Udoka, Ellington, and Pondexter are up to the task. Those guys should be your deep reserves, not your 9th, 10th, and 11th men.

So, you're not trolling the free agent pool for warm bodies, you're looking for guys to bump those other players further down the bench where they belong.

well a couple of years ago people thik on Udoka as the next coming of Bruce Bowen
and I am not ready to take out of count Pondexter . He will be in the call for rookie of the year
mark my words
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #176 on: September 08, 2010, 05:54:18 PM »

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for spots 12-15 we're looking at warm bodies...I'm just saying either you believe we could fill those spots up or not.  I was defending the notion of us having 11 players on the roster as being a concern.  If the concern is with the actual players we have to work with then that's a different can of worms.

Well, it's a little of both. Your success is so heavily dependent on your veteran starters. But they need capable backups who can allow them to rest and still win games.

I don't think Udoka, Ellington, and Pondexter are up to the task. Those guys should be your deep reserves, not your 9th, 10th, and 11th men.

So, you're not trolling the free agent pool for warm bodies, you're looking for guys to bump those other players further down the bench where they belong.

well a couple of years ago people thik on Udoka as the next coming of Bruce Bowen
and I am not ready to take out of count Pondexter . He will be in the call for rookie of the year
mark my words
Edgar, I was probably the very first person mentioning Quincy Pondexter on this site this year when people started saying what players they thought the Celtics should get. I watched him a bunch his junior season and when a saw some of his early PAC12 games I knew he had grown as a player and would be a great prospect. I like him a lot and think on a team like the real Celtics would have been a great addition to ween into the backup SF position and give the C's good contributions by the end of the year.

There might not be a bigger Quincy Pondexter fan on this site.

But even I don't think he will get a vote for Rookie of the Year, never mind win the award.

Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #177 on: September 08, 2010, 05:55:44 PM »

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I thought either Avery Bradley or Luke Harangody was getting Rookie of the Year?
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #178 on: September 08, 2010, 06:00:53 PM »

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I thought either Avery Bradley or Luke Harangody was getting Rookie of the Year?
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #179 on: September 08, 2010, 06:01:40 PM »

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3C. Toronto has great talent in the starting lineup, but the questions regarding Perkins' comeback cannot be so easily dismissed. The starters will need to play 40 minutes a night, and due to a lack of depth (why only 11 players?), they'll burn out during the last 20 games of the season.

 :o

 ;D

ok.

I wonder how to manage a 13 player rotation

NBA Games for 30 teams last year


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
DNP
DNP
DNP
DNP

From NBA TV.

League is about your first 11 players
rest is gravy

True, but three of your eleven players (Udoka, Ellington, Pondexter) are rookies/fringe players. As such, their contributions will be inconsistent, at best.

You also have a player who will be suspended for the first 10 games of the season, and has a documented mental health issue. Another infraction with the league office could result in longer suspension.

Lastly, Perkins will not return until February, at the earliest, and even then may need some time to get back into playing shape.

So you have maybe 7 players tops who will need to play all available minutes. That's doable, but given those players' ages, I think they run out of gas right when you're hoping for a playoff push.

If we are leaving Perkins late season availability to subjective guesswork, isn't fair to wager a guess on whether or not the Angry Croto Pickles would find a way to fill spots 12-15 with some warm bodies by season's end?  Danny always has managed to fill in the blanks.


Is it guesswork, though? I've not heard anyone say Perkins will be ready before January. And then he has to get his wind back.

And Toronto doesn't need warm bodies. They need consistent contributions from the bench.



shhhh...that's not helping our case  :D
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