why wouldn't Washington trade for Sheed?

[Bankshot]

If Rasheed agrees to retire, I can see Minnesota or Washington taking on his deal in return for cash or a draft pick.  If Rasheed then retired (rather than taking a buyout), they'd be in the exact same position, but would have extra cash / picks.

One thing to remember about buyouts:  since Rasheed has two years left on his deal, the buyout will be spread over two seasons, I believe, in terms of a cap hit.  (However, Rasheed may be able to decline his option in advance, if a team would like to have the hit in only one year.  I haven't researched whether this is possible.)

I'm hoping Minnesota will part with Corey Brewer, not a draft pick. 

[the_Bird]

If Rasheed agrees to retire, I can see Minnesota or Washington taking on his deal in return for cash or a draft pick.  If Rasheed then retired (rather than taking a buyout), they'd be in the exact same position, but would have extra cash / picks.

One thing to remember about buyouts:  since Rasheed has two years left on his deal, the buyout will be spread over two seasons, I believe, in terms of a cap hit.  (However, Rasheed may be able to decline his option in advance, if a team would like to have the hit in only one year.  I haven't researched whether this is possible.)

I'm hoping Minnesota will part with Corey Brewer, not a draft pick. 

Minny wouldn't be sending US an asset, we'd be sending them an asset.  They wouldn't be gaining any additional cap space or really receiving any benefit at all from receiving 'Sheed's contract and having him technically expire as a Timberwolf.  We'd send them a second-round pick and/or cash to give them a reason to help us out.

The only way Brewer would be coming back is as part of a bigger deal or if they're looking for a pure salary dump.  Maybe if we sent them a first rounder, they'd do it, not sure if I'd want to do that though.

[bdm860]

And Sheed would get to come full circle and end his career where it all started!  Like Scottie Pippen and Allen Iverson (maybe if he doesn't play again), and now Sheed.  The storybook ending 

[manl_lui]

And Sheed would get to come full circle and end his career where it all started!  Like Scottie Pippen and Allen Iverson (maybe if he doesn't play again), and now Sheed.  The storybook ending 

isn't Sheed drafted by the Bullets? and traded to Portland...

So either way lets hope we get someone valuable from this

Josh Howard (Wiz) Rudy (Portland) for Sheed and someone else anyone =)

[Bankshot]

If Rasheed agrees to retire, I can see Minnesota or Washington taking on his deal in return for cash or a draft pick.  If Rasheed then retired (rather than taking a buyout), they'd be in the exact same position, but would have extra cash / picks.

One thing to remember about buyouts:  since Rasheed has two years left on his deal, the buyout will be spread over two seasons, I believe, in terms of a cap hit.  (However, Rasheed may be able to decline his option in advance, if a team would like to have the hit in only one year.  I haven't researched whether this is possible.)

I'm hoping Minnesota will part with Corey Brewer, not a draft pick. 

Minny wouldn't be sending US an asset, we'd be sending them an asset.  They wouldn't be gaining any additional cap space or really receiving any benefit at all from receiving 'Sheed's contract and having him technically expire as a Timberwolf.  We'd send them a second-round pick and/or cash to give them a reason to help us out.

The only way Brewer would be coming back is as part of a bigger deal or if they're looking for a pure salary dump.  Maybe if we sent them a first rounder, they'd do it, not sure if I'd want to do that though.

I'd throw in a pick.  They might be willing to let him go because they have a logjam at his position.  Plus, he's a restricted free agent after this year and he might get offers bigger than Minny is willing to match.  If someone offers him say $4mil, I don't think they match.  They might want to get something for him now.

[the_Bird]

If Rasheed agrees to retire, I can see Minnesota or Washington taking on his deal in return for cash or a draft pick.  If Rasheed then retired (rather than taking a buyout), they'd be in the exact same position, but would have extra cash / picks.

One thing to remember about buyouts:  since Rasheed has two years left on his deal, the buyout will be spread over two seasons, I believe, in terms of a cap hit.  (However, Rasheed may be able to decline his option in advance, if a team would like to have the hit in only one year.  I haven't researched whether this is possible.)

I'm hoping Minnesota will part with Corey Brewer, not a draft pick.  

Minny wouldn't be sending US an asset, we'd be sending them an asset.  They wouldn't be gaining any additional cap space or really receiving any benefit at all from receiving 'Sheed's contract and having him technically expire as a Timberwolf.  We'd send them a second-round pick and/or cash to give them a reason to help us out.

The only way Brewer would be coming back is as part of a bigger deal or if they're looking for a pure salary dump.  Maybe if we sent them a first rounder, they'd do it, not sure if I'd want to do that though.

I'd throw in a pick.  They might be willing to let him go because they have a logjam at his position.  Plus, he's a restricted free agent after this year and he might get offers bigger than Minny is willing to match.  If someone offers him say $4mil, I don't think they match.  They might want to get something for him now.

I might do that, I might not.  Not sure if Brewer's worth a first-rounder (which I'm assuming would be ~#20 for us; not a terrible pick).  

Maybe if they did a pick-swap, they give us their second-rounder and we give them a first, that would likely result in them moving up ten or fifteen picks.  

We'd still pick up a small (~$3.5M) trade exception.  Probably too small to be much good.

'Sheed and a first-rounder for Brewer and their second-rounder?

[manl_lui]

i agree, i don't think Brewer is worth a 1st rounder...id rather use a 1st rounder and trade players for a big name player

[Bankshot]

i agree, i don't think Brewer is worth a 1st rounder...id rather use a 1st rounder and trade players for a big name player

Well he was a relatively high pick himself.

[Brendan]

If Rasheed agrees to retire, I can see Minnesota or Washington taking on his deal in return for cash or a draft pick.  If Rasheed then retired (rather than taking a buyout), they'd be in the exact same position, but would have extra cash / picks.

One thing to remember about buyouts:  since Rasheed has two years left on his deal, the buyout will be spread over two seasons, I believe, in terms of a cap hit.  (However, Rasheed may be able to decline his option in advance, if a team would like to have the hit in only one year.  I haven't researched whether this is possible.)

I actually thought player options don't count for buyout purposes unless they are picked up early, only team options count.