Speculation: Sign-and-trade for Hughes in the works?

[manl_lui]

We're not getting Jackson, Charlotte isn't looking for a salary dump for him.

I just read on si.com today that Charlotte is looking to make a salary dump type of trade to save money, and not necessarily improve their team.  Maybe not Jackson, but that would be nice for us. 

Diaw, baby.  Just proposed it in the Sheed trade idea thread.  Sheed/Baby for Diaw makes a ton of sense for both sides.  Diaw's like a souped-up Marquis Daniels from his Dallas days.  Exploits mismatches for his points or sets up his teammates as a point forward; guards anyone on the floor. 

If Charlotte is looking for a salary dump, then Diaw for Sheed+Gaffney+Lafayette works. Sheed retires, then waive the non-guaranteed contracts of G & L and save $9 million.

The C's get a defensive SF with size who is still on the right side of 30. Diaw isn't much offensively, but he can run in transition, defend LeBron, Wade and Kobe pretty well and is the sort of veteran that Doc likes. Diaw's contract is high, but short (2 years both at $9 mill), so that might not displease Danny too much.

I'd much rather spend Sheed, G&L on Diaw than Hugues.

in this case DA should get it done, we need more Lebron, Kobe defenders

[Mr October]

Diaw could makes sense. His price tag is rather hefty though. Boston should ask for something else in return - a pick.

I'd also keep holding out hope for Battier or Jeffries from Houston.

And then if nothing else works, Kapono and Posey will still be available, or a trade exception trade before training camp.

[manl_lui]

Diaw could makes sense. His price tag is rather hefty though. Boston should ask for something else in return - a pick.

I'd also keep holding out hope for Battier or Jeffries from Houston.

And then if nothing else works, Kapono and Posey will still be available, or a trade exception trade before training camp.

we all know what Posey is capable of on defense, and can shoot the ball

Kapono on the other hand, I'm not too sure about on defense
ok 3 pt shooter, I know he won 2 in a row and all, but how many 3s can he supply in a game...

I'm more comfortable with Diaw, if not try to go back to Posey...

maybe a trade near the deadline can upgrade the team even more...

[saltlover]

Isn't our roster full at 15 now that we signed Wafer and Shaq?  Not that I want Hughes (at all!  god does he suck!) but wouldn't we have to trade for him or cut someone, since we don't have any room without getting rid of a player?  Just makes me scared that the sign and trade rumor is truer than the FA rumor.

I'm okay with keeping Sheed's contract for now, but we can't pick up anyone else unless we trade Sheed for that person.  (Or some much more monumental deal that involves something like Baby or Perk.)

[the_Bird]

Isn't our roster full at 15 now that we signed Wafer and Shaq?  Not that I want Hughes (at all!  god does he suck!) but wouldn't we have to trade for him or cut someone, since we don't have any room without getting rid of a player?  Just makes me scared that the sign and trade rumor is truer than the FA rumor.

Rondo
Nate
Ray
Wafer
Avery
Pierce
Quis
'Gody
KG
Davis
JO
Shaq
Perk
Semih

'Sheed is 15.  Adding another means either trading 'Sheed or cutting Semih (or 'Gody). 

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question on james posey: would the hornets give up an unprotected 1st to be rid of him? if so, i'd be inclined to consider bringing him back. his contract after all does fit the current two year plan....

[the_Bird]

question on james posey: would the hornets give up an unprotected 1st to be rid of him? if so, i'd be inclined to consider bringing him back. his contract after all does fit the current two year plan....

I can't imagine they'd give up an UNprotected first.  They're trying to clear salary, but they need to keep some assets for rebuilding.  That first rounder could be huge, especially if Chris Paul forces a trade. 

Might be able to extract a lotto-protected first rounder.

[Who]

question on james posey: would the hornets give up an unprotected 1st to be rid of him? if so, i'd be inclined to consider bringing him back. his contract after all does fit the current two year plan....

For a lottery protected first round pick? Yeah, I think so.

For a non-protected pick? I don't know. That is a high price for a team that is unlikely to make the playoffs in the West. They gave up their lottery pick this summer in a salary dump but they also got back two first rounders in return.

I'm thinking it'll take something more. Another asset to leave that pick unprotected or to drop the protection to top 10 protected. Maybe the C's own first rounder or BBD. That might make it interesting enough for NOH.

The Hornets are about $3 million over the luxury tax threshold at the moment. Good chance they can trim that $3 million off the books by trading deadline without giving up a lottery pick. Added bonus of not having Posey's contract on the books next season ... but I'm not sure that's enough.

[Rashi]

Jerry Stackhouse is still a FA, anyone got any interest in him?

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question on james posey: would the hornets give up an unprotected 1st to be rid of him? if so, i'd be inclined to consider bringing him back. his contract after all does fit the current two year plan....

For a lottery protected first round pick? Yeah, I think so.

For a non-protected pick? I don't know. That is a high price for a team that is unlikely to make the playoffs in the West. They gave up their lottery pick this summer in a salary dump but they also got back two first rounders in return.

I'm thinking it'll take something more. Another asset to leave that pick unprotected or to drop the protection to top 10 protected. Maybe the C's own first rounder or BBD. That might make it interesting enough for NOH.

The Hornets are about $3 million over the luxury tax threshold at the moment. Good chance they can trim that $3 million off the books by trading deadline without giving up a lottery pick. Added bonus of not having Posey's contract on the books next season ... but I'm not sure that's enough.

Some interesting points here. Perhaps the ability to swap 1sts (top 5 protected) or just their 1st straight up (top 10 protected)...

[the_Bird]

See, this kind of deal to bring Pose back, I'd do in a heartbeat.  I'd obviously much rather extract Battier or Prince away from their squads, but I just don't see how the C's offer enough *sweeteners* to get a deal for either of those guys done (we aren't going to be the only bidders for those guys). 

If you can get Pose and he can just give ten or fifteen solid minutes a night - AND you can pick up a draft pick, even lotto-protected, to help the rebuild - AND you don't screw up the cap past 2012, that's a win.  Not sure realistically you're going to do much better.

 

[Mencius]

I don't know that there will be a better backup 3 than Posey, but I'd like to think so, and if one becomes available I'd rather take the guy that would help the most this year.  Picking up a pick from NO would be nice and all, but would be secondary to getting the best player this year.  Our creeping window has to end at some point, and it's likely it'll be this year.

What do you guys think of Posey's game these days?  I was for keeping him a couple of years ago, but it seems like his game has deteriorated a fair bit since then, but I only see him when he plays us, so limited info to go on (that, and his stats).

[Yakmanev]

Jerry Stackhouse is still a FA, anyone got any interest in him?

Yeah, I think that's a good idea actually. Good veteran for the vet min pay. He would easily be done by 2012 when everyone else is off too. I think it's a perfect fit. Plus, you get to keep Sheed to either step in after the break or to trade later during the draft.

[manl_lui]

Jerry Stackhouse is still a FA, anyone got any interest in him?

for the Vet minimum YES, hes getting old too at 35, but I believe hes still an option, i prefer a younger player though...probably not happening

if he can come with the vet min, i love it...if that don't work out, we will see what happens by trade deadline

[the_Bird]

Problem with Stack is that we're rapidly running out of roster spots.  Sign Stack, and either you're letting 'Sheed retire without getting any compensation back, or you're cutting Semih, or you're not tendering a contract offer to Gody.  Assuming those two kids are GOING to be on the roster, 'Sheed is #15. 

Now, it may not be a big deal to cut Semih, but they did sign him for a reason and they seem to think he's a worthwhile project.

Stack would have been interesting had we not signed Wafer; Von's got his roster spot.  Besides, Stack can't defend, certainly he can't defend at the 3.