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And the biggest loser of the Shaq signing is....
« on: August 04, 2010, 10:15:42 AM »

Offline cordialb

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Dwight Howard.  As if the C's didnt already have great size to match up and body him away from the basket with perk and baby, insert Shaq.  Seriously, he may demand a trade out west. 

Somewhere, i'd also say a bead of sweat dripped down bynum's face too. 

If we are able to get a defensive wing with Sheed's contract, i'd be deleriously happy.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 10:39:03 AM »

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if you can't beat them, join them

Dwight Howard to the Celtics 2012  ;D
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 10:42:06 AM »

Offline LilRip

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Quote from: manl_lui on August 04, 2010, 10:39:03 AM
if you can't beat them, join them

Dwight Howard to the Celtics 2012  ;D

lol. would love this!



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Re: And the biggest loser of the Shaq signing is....
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM »

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I was going to say our pick and roll defense.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 10:59:14 AM »

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The biggest losers are probably Denver and Atlanta.  How could those two teams not offer Shaq more than the vet min?  There is no way Denver can get past LA with the current Nugget bigs and the same is true of Atlanta and Orlando.

Mike
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 11:01:16 AM »

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.....The Lakers ;D
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 11:04:32 AM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
I was going to say our defense.
Fixed that for you :)
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Re: And the biggest loser of the Shaq signing is....
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 11:05:37 AM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
I was going to say our pick and roll defense.

Yeah Shaq will never be old Shaq but I would love to see him Shed some pounds so he can be somewhat laterally mobile. We shall see.

His 1 on 1 defense is still pretty good though. Maybe KG's help D can hide some of Shaq's defeciencies.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 11:08:21 AM »

Offline Fafnir

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Quote from: kozlodoev on August 04, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
I was going to say our defense.
Fixed that for you :)
I don't think Shaq will be any worse overall on defense than Rasheed Wallace was.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 11:09:34 AM »

Offline Celts17Pride

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Biggest loser - Miami, Orlando and LA Lakers.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 11:13:11 AM »

Offline kozlodoev

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Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: kozlodoev on August 04, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
I was going to say our defense.
Fixed that for you :)
I don't think Shaq will be any worse overall on defense than Rasheed Wallace was.
You're kidding, right? Rasheed was a credible post defender, and would lay his hand on most balls that passed close to him. The guy averaged close to 1 steal and 1 block in limited minutes.

I can argue that not only is Shaq, at this stage of his career, an overall downgrade defensively, but he is also a downgrade in every defensive aspect.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 11:17:56 AM »

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Quote from: kozlodoev on August 04, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: kozlodoev on August 04, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: Fafnir on August 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
I was going to say our defense.
Fixed that for you :)
I don't think Shaq will be any worse overall on defense than Rasheed Wallace was.
You're kidding, right? Rasheed was a credible post defender, and would lay his hand on most balls that passed close to him. The guy averaged close to 1 steal and 1 block in limited minutes.

I can argue that not only is Shaq, at this stage of his career, an overall downgrade defensively, but he is also a downgrade in every defensive aspect.
In this you're wrong. Take a look at the stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=oC2UA

Shaq blocked more shots than Wallace, and also rebounded a whole lot better. Its true that Sheed got a lot of steals for the C's and that's probably the biggest difference between the two. Both fouled at a pretty high rate.

Sheed's one area of positive defensive abiility was post defense, and Shaq is still very good at post defense.
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