Thought I remembered a suggestion that someone gave during the suggestion thread last year that during runoff votes between two teams, have everyone give the series game results, like 4-2 or 4-0 and if after the run off vote it's still tied, add up the # of games won. Or something like that. I thought that a good suggestion.
I don't like this idea, it allows for people to "weight" their playoff votes. Some would weigh in good faith, others would spike it with 4-0 predictions.
Don't people already do that in the conference standings voting though?
Yes but that's unavoidable if you're rating 15 teams, you have to rank them somehow for it to make any sense.
I don't think a voter should be able to make their vote more valuable than another by designating it a sweep.
Yeah but ranking a really good team really low or vice versa can have as much if not more of a playoff effecting effect as someone putting down a 4-0 sweep vote on a second tiebreaker on an already tied situation.
For instance lets say the Boxers decide to draft for Team of the Future and I draft 8 rookies and 4 second year players. Obviously that team is probably going to finish in the bottom two of a conference. But if I vote the Boxers as the best team in the conference and vote a fringe playoff team low, that one vote not only could that cost the fringe playoff a playoff spot but could effect the seeding and playoff matchups.
If however I vote in an already tied vote off for a team to lose 4-0, the only way that vote counts is if there is once again a tie and then will only be meaningful if the final win total is within 3 wins in the second tiebreaker AND if I did it deliberately to effect a vote. Some people are just going to believe that one team could sweep another, after all.
You're conflating two voting systems that have nothing to do with one another Nick.
Regular season voting and Playoff voting are completely different animals.
I agree that you can distort the regular season voting by tanking a team you dislike. Just as you can skew it upwards by voting a team first when they're really a fringe playoff team. But since you must rank two groups of 15 teams some amount of weighting your vote is inevitable.
In the playoffs no such thing is necessary as you have a binary vote. I understand that a 4-0 would only affect a vote in a tie, but I don't want a close vote to come down to how many aggregate games people think teams will win.
So you would rather let the close vote come down to which teams voters can return to vote for the second and third and fourth time?
Whatever you decide is fine but I think that letting the games won in as a second tiebreaker in a vote off gives you and idea of which team people thought was overall stronger since in the series where people voted a team to lose they either kept it close, meaning they thought it a strong team or got blown away, thinking that the teams just weren't that close.
And, I think of the people voting 95-99% give honest opinions and don't try to tank teams.
But again, just something to think about. If you are dead set against it, that's cool. Hopefully there won't be any ties as from what I understand there wasn't any for the first couple years, but, there were bunch last year.
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