Pacers shopping Dunleavy, Ford

[Rashi]

The Pacers are attempting to trade T.J. Ford and Mike Dunleavy, according to sources.

Ford has been on the market for several months, but the news of an attempt to trade Dunleavy is surprising as Jim O'Brien is known to be high on him.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68420/20100729/pacers_shopping_dunleavy_ford/

[shookones99]

TJ Ford is solid in a starting role.  I dont know hoe effective he would be coming off the bench though.  A this point I'd prefer Nate Rob.

[Jon]

Ford is way too much of a luxury for us right now.  Point guard is probably the only position we have solidified right now. 

As for Dunleavy, he'd be interesting as an option at the 3 spot; however, I don't know how we'd make this work.  Sheed+Lafayette+Gaffney doesn't work on Trade Machine.  Unless we're going to include Baby or Perk, it doesn't look like it's going to work.

And something tells me that given the fact that Ford and Dunleavy both expire after this year, Larry Legend is looking to take back talent, rather than salary relief from the two of them. 

[Bankshot]

I'd love Dunleavy.  But I don't see how we can get him.

[Fan from VT]

IF indiana is worried about saving money immediately and know they won't re-sign dunleavy as a free agent next year, what about

Sheed, Gaffney, Lafayette, Baby
for
Dunleavy, Hansborough


The Baby/Hansborough swap is only because sheed/gaffney/lafayette for Dunleavy doesn't work money-wise, and while baby/hansborough are pretty interchangeable talent/role wise, baby makes more and allows the money to work.

The above deal saves indiana a lot of money and they lose nothing with the hansborough/baby swap.

[Snakehead]

IF indiana is worried about saving money immediately and know they won't re-sign dunleavy as a free agent next year, what about

Sheed, Gaffney, Lafayette, Baby
for
Dunleavy, Hansborough


The Baby/Hansborough swap is only because sheed/gaffney/lafayette for Dunleavy doesn't work money-wise, and while baby/hansborough are pretty interchangeable talent/role wise, baby makes more and allows the money to work.

The above deal saves indiana a lot of money and they lose nothing with the hansborough/baby swap.

You think Baby and hansborough are interchangable?  Baby has played a role on very successful Boston teams and what has Hansborough done?  He seems alright but I'd take Baby 10/10 times.

[Jon]

I also hesitate about trading Baby and Wallace in the same deal.  At least with trading Baby for Fernandez, you still have Wallace's trade chip to get things done. 

[Fan from VT]

IF indiana is worried about saving money immediately and know they won't re-sign dunleavy as a free agent next year, what about

Sheed, Gaffney, Lafayette, Baby
for
Dunleavy, Hansborough


The Baby/Hansborough swap is only because sheed/gaffney/lafayette for Dunleavy doesn't work money-wise, and while baby/hansborough are pretty interchangeable talent/role wise, baby makes more and allows the money to work.

The above deal saves indiana a lot of money and they lose nothing with the hansborough/baby swap.

You think Baby and hansborough are interchangable?  Baby has played a role on very successful Boston teams and what has Hansborough done?  He seems alright but I'd take Baby 10/10 times.

Well, Hansborough was more efficient and productive individually as a rookie than Davis has ever been. So there's that. I also don't really believe in blaming a role playing PF like Hansborough for his team's suckitude, just as i can't logically or rationally give Davis too much credit for being a role playing PF off the bench for a team that had one of the very best (statistically and observationally) starting lineups in the league last year.

[Fan from VT]

I also hesitate about trading Baby and Wallace in the same deal.  At least with trading Baby for Fernandez, you still have Wallace's trade chip to get things done. 

however, in the above deal, it's trading sheed (won't play next year) and baby for 2 legit rotation players.

Rondo/Nate/Bradley
Ray/Daniels/Bradley
Pierce/Dunleavy
KG/Hansborough
O'neal/Perk/Erden

Is a pretty legit rotation. If Daniels stinks again, Dunleavy can really back both spots up, and is smart, good passer, good shooter...really good bench piece. To me, That's a full rotation IF Perk comes back healthy and you can snag someone else like amundson or boone with a vet min offer.

[Moranis]

Boston receives Fernandez, Dunleavy, Cunningham
Portland receives Hansborough, Bos 1st
Indiana receives Sheed, Davis, Lafayette/Gaffney

or

Boston receives Fernandez, Dunleavy
Portland receives Ford, Gaffney/Lafayette
Indiana receives Sheed, Miller, Davis, Bos 1st

[wdleehi]

Boston receives Fernandez, Dunleavy, Cunningham
Portland receives Hansborough, Bos 1st
Indiana receives Sheed, Davis, Lafayette/Gaffney

or

Boston receives Fernandez, Dunleavy
Portland receives Ford, Gaffney/Lafayette
Indiana receives Sheed, Miller, Davis, Bos 1st

Makes the Celtics to light at the PF/C spot and to heavy at the sg/sf spot.  Boston needs only one of Fernandez/Dunleavy. 


I would take Dunleavy/Hansborough and then look to sign a vet min C as a spare.

[kozlodoev]

Rondo/Nate/Bradley
Ray/Daniels/Bradley
Pierce/Dunleavy
KG/Hansborough
O'neal/Perk/Erden

Is a pretty legit rotation. If Daniels stinks again, Dunleavy can really back both spots up, and is smart, good passer, good shooter...really good bench piece. To me, That's a full rotation IF Perk comes back healthy and you can snag someone else like amundson or boone with a vet min offer.

What's legit in an aging KG being backed up by an undersized and unproven second-year player, and having no real backup C for most of next season!?

[SCBirdman]

IF indiana is worried about saving money immediately and know they won't re-sign dunleavy as a free agent next year, what about

Sheed, Gaffney, Lafayette, Baby
for
Dunleavy, Hansborough


The Baby/Hansborough swap is only because sheed/gaffney/lafayette for Dunleavy doesn't work money-wise, and while baby/hansborough are pretty interchangeable talent/role wise, baby makes more and allows the money to work.

The above deal saves indiana a lot of money and they lose nothing with the hansborough/baby swap.

I think the trade would work in reality, just not in the trade machine, because Sheed has a trade kicker in his contract that would raise his salary and make the trade work.

I could be wrong, but I think this is correct. Maybe Roy or one of the mods could chime in here. I would like the Dunleavy deal if we can't get Rudy and Pryz for less than 2 first rounders.

Dunleavy has the range of a SG and good size. He was drafted too high and had the expectations that come with being a high pick. I like his game and think he would maximize his abilties playing in Boston with our system. He is a good team defender, from his days at Duke. And he can really shoot the ball. With a bench role and not as much pressure on him, I think he would have a great career in Green.

[BballTim]

  I think the Pacers have been trying to trade TJ Ford since LBJ was in office.

[Mike-Dub]

Would love to get Dunleavy and Hansborough like wdleehi said but I don't know what we'd have to give up to get those two.