The Cs can offer Lafayette and Gaffney -- both on on-guaranteed contracts -- and cash, picks, etc. I doubt they're offering Bradley, and don't see why Portland would want him anyway considering Bayless' presense on their squad.

And they just drafted Armon Johnson who's more of a PG but is similarly long armed, athletic, defensive minded.  Bradley would seem redundant next to those two players.

Possibly Tony Gaffney and a 2011 first rounder. Lafayette or Bradley may have been offered but i don't see Portland biting on that considering they're loaded at the PG Position (Miller, Roy, Bayless, Patty Mills, Armon Johnson)

But that package isn't attractive enough to put us over the Bulls & Knicks in my opinion.. It has to be a 3 team deal that would net Portland a 1st rounder, and a future 1st rounder, which they could use as ammo for CP3. And I think Boston has found a way to utilize Sheed's contract in a 3 team deal that would net us Rudy and a big in return.    

Here are the latest with Boston and New York.

Cho has backed off to say he is not in any hurry to trade Rudy. Basically Cho is waiting to see if Boston or NY Knicks will change their offers.

Boston
Boston isn't sure they are willing to give up two 1st round picks as they are countering with a 1st & 2nd round picks. Basically Boston is getting two good role players in Rudy Fernandez and Joel Przybilla.

The problem for Boston is they haven't found any better free agents or better players from other teams willing to take back Rasheed Wallace contract for an exception. With Kendrick Perkins out 6-7 months with a torn ACL, the Celtics need a center and Joel would fix that problem.

Here is the "rumored" offer by Portland:

$8.65M - Rudy Fernandez, Joel Przybilla and Portland 2011 2nd to Boston
$7.08M - Rasheed Wallace, Tony Gaffney, 2011 & 2013 1st round picks (both picks lottery protected over several years) to Portland

New York
Right now the offer is less thrilling as NY offers a 1st round pick in 2014 and Toney Douglas. Portland wants Anthony Randolph and New York is thinking about it, but hasn't approved any deals yet.

http://www.clubblazers.com/blazers-discussion/rumor-portland-working-trade-today-t3494-30.html

FWIW, Portland forum says this guy is very credible. If Ainge gives up 2 1st round picks then you can bet that he gets Oden instead of Przybilla. My two cents. Portland is obviously trying to collect 1st round picks to go hard after Chris Paul.

If you're ainge, how the hell do you not accept that deal??

Pryzbilla's contract could also be used at the trade deadline. $7.4 million expiring.

The thing is, if it's just picks they want, Portland is likely better off trading with New York, who will certainly draft below us over the next two years.  

And if we're talking players, it pretty much has to be Bradley or BBD, as they're really the only tradeable players we have.  

Bradley wouldn't be bad to give up.  While I have high hopes for him, with Rondo, Ray, Nate, and Rudy all here for the next two years, there really wouldn't be any room for him.

As for BBD, it seems like a bad idea; however, if dealt him for Rudy, we'd still have Sheed's deal, where we might be able to pick up a power forward via trade and then pick up a minimum center guy like Kwame and still be alright.  

Quote from: Celts17Pride on July 29, 2010, 11:34:20 AM

Here are the latest with Boston and New York.

Cho has backed off to say he is not in any hurry to trade Rudy. Basically Cho is waiting to see if Boston or NY Knicks will change their offers.

Boston
Boston isn't sure they are willing to give up two 1st round picks as they are countering with a 1st & 2nd round picks. Basically Boston is getting two good role players in Rudy Fernandez and Joel Przybilla.

The problem for Boston is they haven't found any better free agents or better players from other teams willing to take back Rasheed Wallace contract for an exception. With Kendrick Perkins out 6-7 months with a torn ACL, the Celtics need a center and Joel would fix that problem.

Here is the "rumored" offer by Portland:

$8.65M - Rudy Fernandez, Joel Przybilla and Portland 2011 2nd to Boston
$7.08M - Rasheed Wallace, Tony Gaffney, 2011 & 2013 1st round picks (both picks lottery protected over several years) to Portland

New York
Right now the offer is less thrilling as NY offers a 1st round pick in 2014 and Toney Douglas. Portland wants Anthony Randolph and New York is thinking about it, but hasn't approved any deals yet.

http://www.clubblazers.com/blazers-discussion/rumor-portland-working-trade-today-t3494-30.html

FWIW, Portland forum says this guy is very credible. If Ainge gives up 2 1st round picks then you can bet that he gets Oden instead of Przybilla. My two cents. Portland is obviously trying to collect 1st round picks to go hard after Chris Paul.

No chance he gets Oden.  Oden is basically untouchable unless they are getting a superstar in return.  He has injury issues, but is a top 5 center if he can ever get healthy.  They are not going to give that away for a couple mediocre picks.

If Przybilla is going to be ready to start the season, then I think that deal is actually very reasonable.  But, I was under the impression he could be out just as long as Perk, which would make him not much more than salary filler, making that second first rounder a no-go.  

Do people think the Blazers will seriously give up Oden?  Like you say he is a top 5 center if healthy right now IMO.  In the future?  The best alongside Dwight Howard and I feel very confident saying that.  They have too much invested to give up now on him, and if he got healthy for another team and reached his potential that would be the ultimate failure of that draft.  Not in not choosing Durant, but choosing Oden and giving up on him AND missing out on Durant.  That'd be a a huge disaster.

Pryzbilla is a different story, but I wouldn't even dream of possibly getting Oden in this deal.


And I really like Rudy and Joel but if New York gave up Anthony Randolph that'd be a really bad move.  He has so much potential and I can easily see him thriving in the D'Antoni system.  Pryzbilla would be useful since they are very weak at C and Rudy would be good for them but Anthony is too valuable.