The Rondo vs Paul Poll on the front page

[rondohondo]

Are you guys for real?  66% of you say you wouldn't trade Rondo for Paul . People on this board are the biggest homers ever.

Does anyone else remember the would you trade Big Al for KG poll that was up a few years ago? I think it was something like 80% wouldn't trade Big Al for KG


Anyways getting back to the paul vs Rondo debate

-Paul is as good as a defender
-Paul is a much better FT shooter( which is a big factor since Rondos best offense is driving to the rim)
-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo
- Paul has at least the same court visions,passing and ball handeling ability
- Paul can be a #1 option, rondo can't


I love rondo (my sn is rondohondo) , but this is just insane that so many people wouldn't trade Rondo for Paul.

[ScalPal]

Are you guys for real?  66% of you say you wouldn't trade Rondo for Paul . People on this board are the biggest homers ever.

Does anyone else remember the would you trade Big Al for KG poll that was up a few years ago? I think it was something like 80% wouldn't trade Big Al for KG


Anyways getting back to the paul vs Rondo debate

-Paul is as good as a defender
-Paul is a much better FT shooter( which is a big factor since Rondos best offense is driving to the rim)
-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo
- Paul has at least the same court visions,passing and ball handeling ability
- Paul can be a #1 option, rondo can't


I love rondo (my sn is rondohondo) , but this is just insane that so many people wouldn't trade Rondo for Paul.

Agreed.

And 90% of them dont have a way to back it up other than "Rondo has heart and guts" well so did Scal but I bet Ainge would flip him for Carmelo's thugness any day. Talent wins.

[kozlodoev]

Talent wins.

It really does! Just ask LeBron!

[BballTim]

-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo

  Rondo takes about twice as many shots from the inside as Paul even though Rondo takes fewer shots overall. He also makes a higher percentage of his inside shots than Paul does. How does that translate to Paul "having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo"?

[rondohondo]

-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo

  Rondo takes about twice as many shots from the inside as Paul even though Rondo takes fewer shots overall. He also makes a higher percentage of his inside shots than Paul does. How does that translate to Paul "having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo"?

Because he goes to the ft line and misses about half of his free throws, he may finish better shooting% wise, but you have to also cout ft shooting. Paul shoots in the 80-85%.

[jdpapa3]

It's cool because it shows the loyalty of our fan base. If the places were switched, I'd bet 99% would prefer to keep Paul rather than trade for Rondo. Chris is the better player and better fit here.

[celtsfan84]

Also, defenders don't leave KG, Paul, and Ray, meaning Rondo has open driving lanes. Chris Paul doesn't.

If a trade happens, Chris Paul will have open driving lanes and Rondo won't.

Basketball is a team game.  Rondo plays with three hall of famers. Paul plays with an assortment of garbage.

[FallGuy]

Talent wins.

It really does! Just ask LeBron!

Boston was a more talented team. Boston beat Cleveland.

[Snakehead]

Talent wins.

It really does! Just ask LeBron!

Yes, ask LeBron because he had a talentless team besides himself.

[BballTim]

Also, defenders don't leave KG, Paul, and Ray, meaning Rondo has open driving lanes. Chris Paul doesn't.

If a trade happens, Chris Paul will have open driving lanes and Rondo won't.

Basketball is a team game.  Rondo plays with three hall of famers. Paul plays with an assortment of garbage.

  Yet, oddly enough, when Pierce and KG were out of the lineup or playing hurt, Rondo was just as able to get to the rim.

  By the way, are you trying to say that KG/PP/RA were performing at a hall of fame level this year? I think you could just as easily classify the season they all had as "borderline all-star", and that might be a bit generous.

[BballTim]

-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo

  Rondo takes about twice as many shots from the inside as Paul even though Rondo takes fewer shots overall. He also makes a higher percentage of his inside shots than Paul does. How does that translate to Paul "having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo"?

Because he goes to the ft line and misses about half of his free throws, he may finish better shooting% wise, but you have to also cout ft shooting. Paul shoots in the 80-85%.

  Ah. That's the first time I've ever seen "better free throw shooting" characterized as "gets to the rim better".

[Snakehead]

-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo

  Rondo takes about twice as many shots from the inside as Paul even though Rondo takes fewer shots overall. He also makes a higher percentage of his inside shots than Paul does. How does that translate to Paul "having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo"?

Because he goes to the ft line and misses about half of his free throws, he may finish better shooting% wise, but you have to also cout ft shooting. Paul shoots in the 80-85%.

  Ah. That's the first time I've ever seen "better free throw shooting" characterized as "gets to the rim better".

Well it does actually help your abilities going to the rim.  Who are the two best penetrators in the NBA?  LeBron and Wade, becauseof their athletic abilities of course but a big part of it is how they can slash in with abandon and don't need to fear contact because they can go to the line.  These guys make a living there.  LeBron had a terrible field goal shooting game against us when we eliminated the Cavs from the Playoffs last year for example, but still finished with 29 points.

If Rondo could hit FT's he'd be able to penetrate much more often and more aggressively.

[rondohondo]

-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo

  Rondo takes about twice as many shots from the inside as Paul even though Rondo takes fewer shots overall. He also makes a higher percentage of his inside shots than Paul does. How does that translate to Paul "having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo"?

Because he goes to the ft line and misses about half of his free throws, he may finish better shooting% wise, but you have to also cout ft shooting. Paul shoots in the 80-85%.

  Ah. That's the first time I've ever seen "better free throw shooting" characterized as "gets to the rim better".

Ok I worded it wrong, he finishes almost as good as rondo when you count ft shooting (which is what happen when you go to the rim, you get fouled) rondo is the better finisher around the rim, but if you add in ft shooting and 3 pt plays Paul is right there with rondo.

[BballTim]

-Paul can spread the floor with his shooting , while still having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo

  Rondo takes about twice as many shots from the inside as Paul even though Rondo takes fewer shots overall. He also makes a higher percentage of his inside shots than Paul does. How does that translate to Paul "having the ability to get to the rim about as good as Rondo"?

Because he goes to the ft line and misses about half of his free throws, he may finish better shooting% wise, but you have to also cout ft shooting. Paul shoots in the 80-85%.

  Ah. That's the first time I've ever seen "better free throw shooting" characterized as "gets to the rim better".

Well it does actually help your abilities going to the rim.  Who are the two best penetrators in the NBA?  LeBron and Wade, because they can slash in with abandon because they don't need to fear contact.

If Rondo could hit FT's he'd be able to penetrate much more often and more aggressively.

  So if Rondo could hit his free throws, instead of merely being better than Paul at getting to the rim, he'd be much better at it than Paul?

[nickagneta]

I didn't take the poll on the front page and do not know how it's worded but let me say this if I could trade Rondo straight up without salary cap restrictions on the trade for Chris Paul, as much as I love Rondo, I would do it in a heartbeat. Paul is the best PG this league has seen since Stockton, you have to do the trade.

But here's the thing, you can't trade Rondo straight up for Paul. He has base year compensation attached to this year of his contract and both teams are over the cap. The only likely scenario that makes sense is Rondo, Perk, Rasheed, Baby, Gaffney, LaFayette and picks for Paul and Okafor and even that doesn't work out. An unlikely scenario is Rondo, Rasheed, Gaffney and Lafayette and 2 first rounders for Paul. And in this case, I don't do the trade because you are stripping the team of any chance at being able to get better for this year in trading the contract of Gaffney, LaFayette and Wallace and then trading the team's future by trading away picks.

So, if I'm trading talent for talent one up, no brainer, make the trade. But under the circumstances of the realities of the NBA, their CBA and what it would mean for this team, you don't do the trade because long term the increase in talent from Paul to Rondo isn't worth the loss of tradeable assets this year, future first round picks and the future financial flexibilty that Rondo's contract gives you versus that of Paul's.