Celtics on Rudy Fernandez's short list

[Evantime34]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

[hpantazo]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

[Birdbrain]

Rudy's a whiner? I disagree. You hear "reports" that's he's unhappy there, but I have yet to hear HIM say anything negative organization. When Coach McMillan calls his number, he's ready. That's all that I ask.

I know there were rumors that Danny was interested in trading for him earlier but things fell through. Hopefully he revisits it - maybe offer up Gaffney and Laffeyette's non-guaranteed contracts now that they're available for trade. Maybe throw in a future 2nd round pick if needed.

He can be groomed as a Ray Allen replacement.

That may be a stretch.

It may, it my not. He hasn't been given an opportunity to shine.

Regardless, it's very hard to argue with the price. He can play at such a low salary, and the Cs would own a year's option next season, plus his restricted rights he following year.

Meanwhile, the problem with the teams on this list is they have -- like the Cs -- very little to offer. Chamlers aint gonna do it, Billy Walker aint gonna do it, James Johnson aint gonna do it, Oliver La-fi-yette certainly aint gonna do it, etc. One of these teams will likely have to give up a pick to get it done, and i'd imagine each team is waiting to see what else they can get out there without giving up future assets.

I've heard Chalmers described as the next Rondo in regards to break out players who will shine w/ a lot of talent around him so someone must think he's good.  He has good 3 pt range and some PG skills and youth so I can see Portland biting for him if they 'really' want to get rid of Rudy.  Miami would probably only do it they 'really' want to get rid of Chalmers though due to some of his tardiness last season.  That trade to me would be like 6 of 1 or 1/2 dozen of the other. In other words not too much difference unless like I mentioned both teams 'really' want these guys on different teams.

no -- he's not a great shooter, he can't penetrate and he's only an average defender. he'll play well on miami (like any scrub), but he's not of much value to portland, and he's not as good as rudy fernandez.

I said good (I'm big on being precise when using adjectives) , fyi and he has good 3 pt range.  I don't give 2 squats just throwing out some information that I've been told about Chalmers.  Some of which I don't agree with but, you will concede of players you mentioned he at least shown some glimpses of talent.

[Who]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

Definitely worth a first rounder ... but I thought Portland already turned down an offer of a late first round pick for Rudy Fernandez sometime around Draft Day.

I think it'll take more than one late first round pick.

[Who]

how does a guy like Rudy have a list?  he's under contract right?  he has to be traded - why do the Blazers care where he wants to go?

The list is meaningless ... I wouldn't pay any attention to it.

[ssspence]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

Definitely worth a first rounder ... but I thought Portland already turned down an offer of a late first round pick for Rudy Fernandez sometime around Draft Day.

I think it'll take more than one late first round pick.

Yeah there was a rumor that Chalmers and a first was offered. I agree it might not be as simple as one 1st. Wonder if they'd be interested in size (i.e. Erden) in addition to a pick.

[StartOrien]

how does a guy like Rudy have a list?  he's under contract right?  he has to be traded - why do the Blazers care where he wants to go?

The list is meaningless ... I wouldn't pay any attention to it.

I 100% disagree with that statement. I've said it about a billion times, but while the NBA is Fernandez's preference, Europe is still very much an option.

If he's not coming to Boston, my ultimate dream is for him to be traded to Minnesota, and then Rudy joins his friend Ricky Rubio.... in Spain.

[Chris]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

Definitely worth a first rounder ... but I thought Portland already turned down an offer of a late first round pick for Rudy Fernandez sometime around Draft Day.

I think it'll take more than one late first round pick.

Well, lets also remember that someone else was calling the shots around draft time.  There is a new sheriff in town, and perhaps he will not be as tight with his prospects.

The one deal that I think would make sense for Rudy would be Avery Bradley, along with Laffayette and Gaffney for Rudy.  The money matches up, and the trade could be done in August, after the 30 day waiting period.  It's a longshot, but if they were high on Bradley, then it might happen.  

That might also open things up for them to make a bigger deal with one of their other PG's, like Bayless or Miller.

[Who]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

Definitely worth a first rounder ... but I thought Portland already turned down an offer of a late first round pick for Rudy Fernandez sometime around Draft Day.

I think it'll take more than one late first round pick.

Well, lets also remember that someone else was calling the shots around draft time.  There is a new sheriff in town, and perhaps he will not be as tight with his prospects.

The one deal that I think would make sense for Rudy would be Avery Bradley, along with Laffayette and Gaffney for Rudy.  The money matches up, and the trade could be done in August, after the 30 day waiting period.  It's a longshot, but if they were high on Bradley, then it might happen. 

That might also open things up for them to make a bigger deal with one of their other PG's, like Bayless or Miller.

That is a very good point. Rudy could be available for less now.

[RJ87]

Also keep in mind that Utah won't be matching Portland's offer to Wesley Matthews. So they now have Matthews in the fold, which they didn't on draft day so their stance on what they want for Rudy may have changed.

[Greenbean]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

Definitely worth a first rounder ... but I thought Portland already turned down an offer of a late first round pick for Rudy Fernandez sometime around Draft Day.

I think it'll take more than one late first round pick.

Well, lets also remember that someone else was calling the shots around draft time.  There is a new sheriff in town, and perhaps he will not be as tight with his prospects.

The one deal that I think would make sense for Rudy would be Avery Bradley, along with Laffayette and Gaffney for Rudy.  The money matches up, and the trade could be done in August, after the 30 day waiting period.  It's a longshot, but if they were high on Bradley, then it might happen.  

That might also open things up for them to make a bigger deal with one of their other PG's, like Bayless or Miller.

This is a case where I hope we are tighter with our prospects! I hope we dont trade Bradley away. We are due for an impact first round draft pick. I really believe this kid will contribute as much as Fernandez would based on his defense alone.

[manl_lui]

To Boston: Rudy Fernandez and James Posey

To New Orleans: Rasheed Wallace's expiring and a 2nd rounder from Boston

To Portland: Quincy Poindexter

IMO, this deal makes sense for all parties.  While Posey is overpaid, he has a two year deal and him/Fernandez really solidify the bench SF/SG positions.

New Orleans gets cap relief at the cost of Poindexter

Portland gets the local athlete.

i love it, make this happen danny!

Rudy can defend and score, definitely a good fit, and we all know posey

[Evantime34]

To Boston: Rudy Fernandez and James Posey

To New Orleans: Rasheed Wallace's expiring and a 2nd rounder from Boston

To Portland: Quincy Poindexter

IMO, this deal makes sense for all parties.  While Posey is overpaid, he has a two year deal and him/Fernandez really solidify the bench SF/SG positions.

New Orleans gets cap relief at the cost of Poindexter

Portland gets the local athlete.

i love it, make this happen danny!

Rudy can defend and score, definitely a good fit, and we all know posey

Portland probably would need to get more than Poindexter.

[Chris]

I think Rudy would be a perfect fit for this team. He would be able to run the floor on fast breaks like no other player on the team not named Rondo. When subbing for Ray or Pierce Rudy would be able to get a ton of fast break points. That being said for the future health of the team I don't think we should be giving away firsts.

In order to get him the Celtics will need to take on a contract that isn't great. The problem with that is that Portland really doesn't have any bad contracts. So we would need to get a 3rd team involved that would give a first to Portland for us to grab a bad contract. The Posey idea seems to be the best I've heard so far.

I think Rudy is worth a first rounder. He's relatively young and has the potential to not only contribute now, but to possibly develop and take over for Ray in a couple of years and run the floor with Rondo. THis is more than you can hope for from an 18-30 pick in the next couple of years.

Definitely worth a first rounder ... but I thought Portland already turned down an offer of a late first round pick for Rudy Fernandez sometime around Draft Day.

I think it'll take more than one late first round pick.

Well, lets also remember that someone else was calling the shots around draft time.  There is a new sheriff in town, and perhaps he will not be as tight with his prospects.

The one deal that I think would make sense for Rudy would be Avery Bradley, along with Laffayette and Gaffney for Rudy.  The money matches up, and the trade could be done in August, after the 30 day waiting period.  It's a longshot, but if they were high on Bradley, then it might happen.  

That might also open things up for them to make a bigger deal with one of their other PG's, like Bayless or Miller.

This is a case where I hope we are tighter with our prospects! I hope we dont trade Bradley away. We are due for an impact first round draft pick. I really believe this kid will contribute as much as Fernandez would based on his defense alone.

Well, I guess it all depends on your feelings on Fernandez.  I think he is a heck of a prospect himself, and was just in a bad situation in Portland.  So I would make that move.  I think you would be giving up a high reward prospect at a lesser position of need for a high reward prospect at a greater position of need, so it would make sense.

[Brendan]

I don't love Rudy as a third wing on this team, would like him much better as a starting SG. Ray Allen will be playing a lot of SF with that roster, which scares me at this point. The other value Rudy would have is that you could go Rudy, Ray, Pierce - with Pierce as the half court play maker and Rudy or Ray bringing up the ball and that lineup would work at least as well, probably better than the Allen, Allen, and Pierce we saw a lot of in the playoffs.

Roster wise you could live with something like:

Pierce / Posey
Allen / Rudy
Rondo / AB

Where Pierce, Allen, and Rudy all saw 30 minutes a game, and Posey or AB were deployed as situations dictate. Then you'd have Rondo at 35+, that get's you to 125 minutes, with 23 minutes left between Posey and AB. It's managable.

Long term it let's you move Rudy to starting SG if Ray Allen leaves after this year - or if you get a chance to trade him for better value.