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Would you take Sessions if it meant landing Brewer?
« on: July 13, 2010, 09:58:56 PM »

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It sounds as if David Kahn is looking to be rid of Sessions in order to make room for Ridnour. Personally, I would be in favor of taking Sessions -- who would be an excellent if expensive back-up for Rondo, and one who could likely be traded over the next 2 years -- if it meant we could land Brewer to take TA's place. Brewer has a bit of James Posey in him -- I really like where he's come and his continued potential to grow. Meanwhile, Kahn may be stupid enough to actually pull the trigger on this deal for Sheed's contract.

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 10:04:48 PM »

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I'd love it.  Too bad to be overloaded if we'd already signed Nate at backup PG, but not a bad problem to have, and Brewer would be a terrific fit on this team.  I would hope this would be agreed to quickly if it were out there.  Kahn would probably want draft picks, too, which seems to be his thing, so I'd include a 2nd easily, but perhaps a first as well next year (expecting a strong record next season and a low pick).

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 10:12:37 PM »

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It'll basically be a 1 year rental cause Brewer is a restricted FA in 2011. Potentially losing him & being stuck with Sessions for 2 additional seasons. And where does this leave Avery?

Is there any other way to land Brewer? Celtics can't be that desperate.

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 10:13:00 PM »

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I would love to get both.

See the way I look at it is that if we want to beat the Lakers, we need size against them.

If we want to beat the Heat, need to beat them with speed; and for speed we obv need some young legs to run with Rondo/Nate/Baby/Ray.

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 10:19:28 PM »

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It'll basically be a 1 year rental cause Brewer is a restricted FA in 2011. Potentially losing him & being stuck with Sessions for 2 additional seasons. And where does this leave Avery?

Is there any other way to land Brewer? Celtics can't be that desperate.

re: brewer ~ one year rental because he's a restricted FA? how many restricted FAs leave their teams, and how many of those that do do so without compensation?

re: sessions ~ how many teams look for competent NBA PGs at the trading deadline?

re: bradley ~ we shouldn't trade for competent NBA players over a draft pick who hasn't played in the league yet? competition is a bad thing?
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 10:35:55 PM »

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It'll basically be a 1 year rental cause Brewer is a restricted FA in 2011. Potentially losing him & being stuck with Sessions for 2 additional seasons. And where does this leave Avery?

Is there any other way to land Brewer? Celtics can't be that desperate.

re: brewer ~ one year rental because he's a restricted FA? how many restricted FAs leave their teams, and how many of those that do do so without compensation?

re: sessions ~ how many teams look for competent NBA PGs at the trading deadline?

re: bradley ~ we shouldn't trade for competent NBA players over a draft pick who hasn't played in the league yet? competition is a bad thing?

re: A lot. If Celtics don't win championship next season, I don't how the owners would continue the spending. Considering the fact Celtics already have ≈$70million of salary committed in 2011, and thats excluding their starting Center who will need to be re-signed.

re: Can Celtics afford another PG who can't shoot? Paying 2 PG who can't make a single 3pointer is absurd. Avery is cheaper with sky high potential.

re: Avery will be a stud....... You heard it here.

Re: Would you take Sessions if it meant landing Brewer?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 06:39:59 AM »

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It'll basically be a 1 year rental cause Brewer is a restricted FA in 2011. Potentially losing him & being stuck with Sessions for 2 additional seasons. And where does this leave Avery?

Is there any other way to land Brewer? Celtics can't be that desperate.

re: brewer ~ one year rental because he's a restricted FA? how many restricted FAs leave their teams, and how many of those that do do so without compensation?

re: sessions ~ how many teams look for competent NBA PGs at the trading deadline?

re: bradley ~ we shouldn't trade for competent NBA players over a draft pick who hasn't played in the league yet? competition is a bad thing?

re: A lot. If Celtics don't win championship next season, I don't how the owners would continue the spending. Considering the fact Celtics already have ≈$70million of salary committed in 2011, and thats excluding their starting Center who will need to be re-signed.

re: Can Celtics afford another PG who can't shoot? Paying 2 PG who can't make a single 3pointer is absurd. Avery is cheaper with sky high potential.

re: Avery will be a stud....... You heard it here.

you literally didn't address a single one of my points with specifics or examples. 'because i say so' is not a remarkably convincing argument.

an example on the restricted FA question would be a little more convincing, for example. and none of us heard from you that bradley is going to be good -- everyone has been slobbering over him since we took him. calling him a PG is a stretch, he's only considered one due to size. he and sessions could easily take the floor at the same time, lest we forget about the alternative in lil nate.

we have plenty of room on the roster for both players. considering the pending lockout next summer and assumed reduction in spending (during brewer's pending restricted FA) we'd likely be paying these boys about what we'd be paying sheed even if we DON'T trade sessions to a team needing PG help during the season for an asset....
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 06:44:56 AM »

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Definitely.

Corey Brewer is better than any of the FA wings out there. I'd love to have him. Shot 35% on threes last season. He's slowly adding that perimeter shot to his arsenal. Great in the open court, good cutter, has a solid handle and is a good passer. An above average defender with excellent defensive potential. A very good rebounder as a rookie although he did poorly last season but certainly a capable rebounder.

Brewer is still on track to become one of the best glue guys in the NBA. I'd absolutely love to have him.

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 07:50:34 AM »

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The trade machine accepts this deal with an ease.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dvfk5c

I would love this deal! Ramon Session can be a scorer and would be a great backup and a cheaper option than Nate Robinson, who is still a good acquisition if he resigns.

This would be a very exciting deal for Boston as it would come to terms with the revamping of our roster. Sessions is a very capable PG and Brewer would give us much needed youth as well in the aging squad.

I still am trying to figure out why Minnesota would accept this deal. "Kahn" is a good answer but we should go for it if we can.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2010, 08:51:36 AM »

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I think this would be a great trade for us. Acquiring Sessions would mean we would have flexibility on re-signing Nate, as he may be somewhat redundant with Sessions on board.

Rondo/Sessions
Ray/Avery
Pierce/Brewer
KG/BBD
JO/Vet Min/Perk

We still need another shooter and big, ev4en if we were to acquire Sessions and Brewer. I don't know how all of this is going to shake out, bt it would certainly be a good trade for now and the future, as both of these guys could run with Rondo post big 3.

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 12:42:08 PM »

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I think it could be a stretch for us to hope Kahn would do it. But this is David Kahn we're talking about.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 12:51:28 PM »

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I think this would be a great trade for us. Acquiring Sessions would mean we would have flexibility on re-signing Nate, as he may be somewhat redundant with Sessions on board.

Rondo/Sessions
Ray/Avery
Pierce/Brewer
KG/BBD
JO/Vet Min/Perk

We still need another shooter and big, ev4en if we were to acquire Sessions and Brewer. I don't know how all of this is going to shake out, bt it would certainly be a good trade for now and the future, as both of these guys could run with Rondo post big 3.

Well Nate will already be signed by the time anything like this happens so he would be on the roster. If we do this trade, will we able to trade Sessions before the trade deadline?  How long do you have to wait to trade a player you just acquired?
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 01:03:36 PM »

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Re:  the proposed Rasheed for Sessions/Brewer Trade:

The savings for Minni would be $1.3M this year (assuming we send cash for the Rasheed buyout) and about $4M next.  Say we had to include a protected future pick, I think this is still a pretty good deal potentially for both sides.  I think Sessions would be an upgrade over resigning Nate.  (Probably don't do both).

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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2010, 01:21:21 PM »

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Minny might just want to save money and get picks. With Wesley Johnson they don't need Brewer as much and Kahn likes to have "his" guys.  Indiana needs a point guard so a 3 way-deal works with Indiana getting Sessions (sending D. Jones and AJ Price), Boston getting D. Jones and Brewer (sending Sheed, money and picks) and Minny getting A.J. Price and picks.

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I might do that deal, and then look to send Sessions to Charlotte.

Actually wonder if Kahn might already be thinking about sending Sessions there for the Dampier contract.
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