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Acquiring a Traded Player Exception
« on: July 12, 2010, 04:56:42 PM »

Offline Eddie20

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If it becomes difficult to acquire a FA, or two, wouldn't it be an option to trade Wallace, Gaffney, and Lafayette, along with a pick or two and cash as incentive, to a team with cap room in order to acquire a TPE? This way we can solve two needs (a 4th big man & wing player to replace TA) if we decide to divide it. As for the team they are traded to (I believe Minnesota has the necessary cap space), they can waive Gaff. and Laf, who have non-guaranteed deals, and then with Sheed's retirement they have no obligation to any. They would be rewarded with picks and cash just to help provide us with a TPE.


Re: Acquiring a Traded Player Exception
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 05:03:31 PM »

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Makes sense to me. Although we probably wouldn't be able to use it until the trading deadline. Due to the delay in acquiring talent the option to trade Sheed now would be preferable. However, if we can't find good value now this would certainly be the best option available.
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Re: Acquiring a Traded Player Exception
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 05:07:01 PM »

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Makes sense to me. Although we probably wouldn't be able to use it until the trading deadline. Due to the delay in acquiring talent the option to trade Sheed now would be preferable. However, if we can't find good value now this would certainly be the best option available.

All the other teams that recently acquired them are using them. I believe there is some sort of window as to when it expires though.

I wish the Grizzlies had the cap room or TA had signed with a team with space. I would've loved to acquire a TPE, via S & T, like the Warriors are doing for Morrow.

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 05:07:31 PM »

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If it becomes difficult to acquire a FA, or two, wouldn't it be an option to trade Wallace, Gaffney, and Lafayette, along with a pick or two and cash as incentive, to a team with cap room in order to acquire a TPE? This way we can solve two needs (a 4th big man & wing player to replace TA) if we decide to divide it. As for the team they are traded to (I believe Minnesota has the necessary cap space), they can waive Gaff. and Laf, who have non-guaranteed deals, and then with Sheed's retirement they have no obligation to any. They would be rewarded with picks and cash just to help provide us with a TPE.

Theoretically, yes, this could be done.

In reality, I don't believe anyone has enough cap space to absorb that much salary without having to send anything back.
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Re: Acquiring a Traded Player Exception
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 05:21:15 PM »

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Im wondering if many teams do. I believe the TWolves have room, but I'm unsure.

I'm just worried that we might pay too much for Howard, either by money or by going more than 2 years, and only address one need.

I much rather split a TPE and sign Bell, a tough minded defender, who can serve a Posey like enforcer role. He may not be the on the ball defender TA is, but he'll make like easier on Rondo with his ability to hit the 3 and spread the floor. The other portion would be to go after the other O'Neal. I think the best way to attack the Heat is where they're most vulnerable and that's their inside D. Shaq would be great at exploiting mismatches in the post and force constant double from the Heat. A quartet of KG, Shaq, JO, and Baby will keep everyone fresh and provides insurance if Perk has a setback or is just not able to produce. I also think both players would be happy with a 2 yr. deal and that is perfect for what Ainge hopes to accomplish in a couple of summers.

Re: Acquiring a Traded Player Exception
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010, 12:29:48 AM »

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Boston would like to use the contract of Rasheed Wallace, who has told the Celtics he will retire, to get a trade exception. If Boston sends Wallace's contract to another team -- which could remove the salary from its cap as long as Wallace stays retired -- for a draft pick, the Celtics could get a trade exception for as much as the $6.3 million Wallace was due to receive.

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 01:08:23 AM »

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We'd also have to convince someone to do that.  If you're this other team, why do you do this?  To help the C's?  To get Gaffney and Lafayette?  We'd likely have to include something. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 01:08:59 AM »

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All the other teams that recently acquired them are using them. I believe there is some sort of window as to when it expires though.

12 months.

That Ainge is seeking a TPE means that there may be no players available in trade that he likes.  It also probably means he plans on using vet min stop gaps and look for a mid-season trade from a team which has under-performed expectations.

The time to have gotten the most value for Sheed's contract may have been earlier in the off-season, when it could have helped another team acquire a max free agent.

And, just so people understand, you can't use a TPE to sign free agents, only to trade for players.
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 12:06:22 PM »

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We'd also have to convince someone to do that.  If you're this other team, why do you do this?  To help the C's?  To get Gaffney and Lafayette?  We'd likely have to include something. 
Originally I thought an exception would be a decent option worth pursuing but this is the very issue that makes me want to avoid it.  I'd prefer to move Sheed's contract for a live body so that the incentive for the other team is to clear cap space without requiring some sweetener like a draft pick from the C's.  That and the fact I don't think using vet min players will be beneficial for this team's performance this year.

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2010, 12:08:57 PM »

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A TPE is less valuable than Sheed's contract, because with a TPE, we cannot take a penny over the value of what was sent out.  With those contracts, we can take 125% of those contracts back.