Rondo Trades (pure unrealistic fun)

[Fan from VT]

STOP!

WARNING: This thread is only for people who enjoy discussing hypothetical trades.

This thread is NOT:
-For people to say "only an idiot would trade Rondo"
-For people to say "I'm so sick of all these ridiculous trade ideas"
-For people to say "God, all these threads are a waste of my time."

If you don't like discussing hypothetical trades, STOP RIGHT NOW.
If you don't like discussing possibly unrealistic trades, STOP RIGHT NOW.
If trade threads ARE a waste of your time, save yourself some time: STOP RIGHT NOW.
If you will interpret this thread as "hating on rondo," STOP RIGHT NOW.
(I love Rondo, but I believe no player is untradeable, and no team is un-improvable).

If you are bored and enjoy fiddling with trade machines and can be courteous and contribute, please keep reading.

THIS IS MEANT TO BE A LIGHT HEARTED DIVERSION FOR PEOPLE WHO ENJOY DISCUSSING RANDOM IDEAS!!!!!






During this post-"decision" lull, as we wait to see if Danny will actually trade Sheed's deal or let all the possible deals pass him by, I felt like seeing what I could come up with to help maximize the Celtics' chances in the next 3 years for winning a title. Some of these may do that, some may not; some may need some luck, some are high risk-high reward, etc.

Rondo is clearly our most coveted trade chip. However, in any deal, we MUST get a replacement PG, and we MUST get enough good pieces to make trading him worthwhile. In addition, some deals may be complicated by Rondo's BYC status.


AGAIN: Purely for FUN, if you are INTERESTED and BORED:

Deal #1
Portland:
Gives Oden, Fernandez, Andre Miller
Gets Rondo, Sheed OR Rondo, Perk, Gaffney, Lafayette
Why: They want a franchise point guard and have Aldridge long term as well as camby and Przybilla. Get a mulligan on Oden at #1 out of his injury risks.

Boston:
Gives Rondo, Sheed OR Rondo, Perk, Gaffney, Lafayette
Gets Oden, Fernandez, Andre Miller
Why: What is Rondo's ceiling? They sell high on his excellent season (if worried he is what he is (I don't think so, I think he'll keep improving, but what the heck)), they get a point guard whose deal coincides with KG, Ray's and Paul's, is of the same veteran mindset, and can actually punish opposing teams for doubling off of him. They pick up an athletic wing in Fernandez. They take a swing for the fences with Oden. In his 3rd year, before injury, he was cruising at a 23 PER with elite rebounding and plus defense. Always trade all-star small for the chance at franchise all-defense big, right? If Ainge thinks that Oden's just had an unlucky start, here's the chance to acquire a once in a generation defensive athletic monster at only 22 years old.



Deal #2

Indiana:
Gives Granger, Rush
Gets Rondo, Sheed, lafayette, Gaffney
Why: They've needed a franchise PG for a while. They are a small market, and wouldn't mind taking the Sheed savings. PG is more important than SF; Rondo is arguably an upgrade and cheaper than Granger.

New Orleans:
Gives Okafor, Chris Paul
Gets Granger, Perkins, Davis, TA or Nate @ 3 mil per year.
Why: They have Collison to step into the starting role, so they save a lot of long term money and add a legit all-star caliber SF.

Boston:
Gives Perkins, Davis, Rondo, Sheed, Gaffney, Lafayette, TA or Nate @ 3 mil per year
Gets Okafor, Rush and Chris Paul
Why: When you can get one of the top 3 players in the NBA still in his young twenties, you do it. Okafor seems to have shed the injury bug and gives you strong rebounding and defense to cover the BBD/Perkins loss. CP3/PP/RA/KG is a great core, as cp3 does pretty much everything Rondo does but is a great outside shooter to eliminate the chances of doubling off the point guard spot. Rush provides additional bench wing support



Deal #3
Minnesota:
Gives Rubio, Al Jefferson, Jonny Flynn
Gets Rondo, Davis, Sheed
Why: Who knows if Rubio will ever join Minny; I bet he joins the Boston squad though. Instead of running that risk they get a franchise PG to run the break from Love's outlet passes.

Boston:
Gives Rondo, Davis, Sheed
Gets Jefferson, Rubio, Flynn
Why: Davis to Jefferson is a major upgrade, and Rubio could be a huge star to pair with the big three and the future. Add in flynn as a nice trade chip/backup, depending on the thoroughness of scouting Rubio, could be worth it.




Deal #4
Indiana:
Gives Granger, Rush
Gets Rondo, Sheed
Why: As above, they get their franchise point and still have Dunleavy to hold down the wings. PG > SF.

New Jersey
Gives Harris, Lee
Gets Granger
Why: They've already been rumored to be trying to give up Harris for Granger, why not this? Indiana wouldn't give up Granger for Harris, but they may for Rondo

Boston
Gives Rondo, Sheed
Gets Lee, Harris, Rush
Why: Overall talent downgrade from Rondo to Harris, but first of all Harris is no slouch; second he's a very good defender; third he's not as much of a distributor but is a better shooter, which some may argue meshes better with the Pierce/Allen/KG core. In addition, Boston expands it's wing depth picking up Rush and Lee.

[GreenEnvy]

I, unlike many, am not adamantly opposed to trading Rondo if it's for the better of the team now. The most viable option would be Chris Paul, as he helps the team better this season and next (which will in all likelihood be our last stand with the Big Three). Getting him would add A LOT to the offense while only taking away very little from defense (other than defense). He is a little older, so we lose a bit of our future, but we don't know for sure that Rondo can be the most important player on a team. CP3 has proven he can.

Would I do a trade Rondo for CP3 straight up? I am not sure.

Therefore, out of your four trade proposals, only the 2nd one seems semi-reasonable. Even so, I don't think we get back fair value. Rondo has just as much trade value at this moment than Chris Paul(only difference is one IS available and one isn't). Perk is cheaper and bigger than Okafor. Davis and Nate/TA for Rush? IDK

The other ones are bad ideas altogether. Giving away the best player and an empty contract for guys that don't fit needs is not a good idea.

IF we were to trade Rondo, it could only be for another elite PG. Miller, Rubio, Flynn, Harris are not elite.

Basically, unless we are getting back CP3, DWill, Rose, or someone in that group, I just don't see the point of moving him.


For me it's a basic trade with the Hornets. CP3 and Posey for Rondo, 'Sheed, TA, Gaffney, a second round pick, and (maybe) cash. [*I don't even think it works in reality though because Rondo's contract is worth half it's value in a trade]

CP3/Nate
Ray/Vet Min (Eddie?)/Bradley
Pierce/Posey
KG/BBD
Perk/JO/Vet Min (B. Wallace?)

Harangody/Lafayette/Erden

The backups are indeed small (except for Pose and JO), but in the playoffs they wouldn't all play together anyway.

[Bahku]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

[bruinsandceltics]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad you took the time to read the first post.

Its times like these you wish you could give out Negative TPs.

[Bahku]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad you took the time to read the first post.

Its times like these you wish you could give out Negative TPs.

Thanks, man ... you might want to check out the little emoticon at the end of my post. Back atcha.

[GreenEnvy]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

Eh....It's not often a 6'1" player can lead your team to titles.

Don't fool yourself and say Rondo was the reason we almost won a championship this past season. 2009 he was spectacular, but he also got neutralized by the likes of Rafer Alston at important moments in vital games. I think I could have ran the point in 2008.

He is an unbelievable point guard. He can do almost everything great. He will never be a knock down shooter though. His long arms and gigantic hands leave too much room for bad mechanics. His free throw shooting is currently atrocious, a bad sign for jump shooting.

I do not believe a player of his offensive abilities can be the best player on your team and you be successful. May he be the exception? I don't know. But I do know players like John Stockton and Kevin Johnson (severely underrated IMO) were top 10 PG's of all time and never won a championship because they were relied on too much. Look at where the Hornets are now. Look at the Jazz in May every season. Look at Steve Nash's career.

A PG can play great and the team still not win. Maybe if you are a prolific scorer or Magic Johnson and 6'10". Rondo is neither of those.

I am a big fan of Rondo, and I wouldn't seek trading him. But I wouldn't consider him (nor any other player) untouchable by any means.

Now the contract is very cap-friendly, so that is another reason to have to be blown away in order to move him.

Revisiting past bad trades is irrelevant, as they weren't on DA's watch and either we traded them away too young or didn't get fair value in return. We know how good Rondo is.

CP3, DWill, Rose, and Wall are all extremely talented too, so he even if he is THE most talented, the current/future crop in the NBA isn't very far behind.

His leadership is questionable, his attitude dubious at times.

Celtic fans can sometimes wear their green glasses a little too much. He is a great player. But not a savior. For every exceptional game you can show me, I can show you a dud, and it's usually the next game.

I highly doubt he gets moved and I'm not in favor of exploring one per se, but to insinuate he is utterly untradeable?

[thirstyboots18]

If you trade Rondo, even for an elite point guard like a Chris Paul, you are putting your present, as well as your future in jeopard.  The reason Rondo is so good is not because he is a scorer, it is because he is a good defender and distributor.  The Celtics did not and do not win because they have the top scorer in the league.  They win because the scoring is evenly distributed making it difficult for other teams to double anyone, and making it a more evenly spaced floor.  Rondo is still young and point guards (like centers) mature later than other positions.  Rondo also has been mentored by the best.  Another point guard would have to learn the system, and learn where each of the other celtics is most efficient with the ball.  I agree with Bahku.  Rondo is a top 3 or top 5 point guard now and is still improving.  The idea is to make a team better, not to trade one of its best assets.  Danny knows this and that is why he would not include  Rondo  in the deal to get KG.

[Bahku]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

Eh....It's not often a 6'1" player can lead your team to titles.

Don't fool yourself and say Rondo was the reason we almost won a championship this past season. 2009 he was spectacular, but he also got neutralized by the likes of Rafer Alston at important moments in vital games. I think I could have ran the point in 2008.

He is an unbelievable point guard. He can do almost everything great. He will never be a knock down shooter though. His long arms and gigantic hands leave too much room for bad mechanics. His free throw shooting is currently atrocious, a bad sign for jump shooting.

I do not believe a player of his offensive abilities can be the best player on your team and you be successful. May he be the exception? I don't know. But I do know players like John Stockton and Kevin Johnson (severely underrated IMO) were top 10 PG's of all time and never won a championship because they were relied on too much. Look at where the Hornets are now. Look at the Jazz in May every season. Look at Steve Nash's career.

A PG can play great and the team still not win. Maybe if you are a prolific scorer or Magic Johnson and 6'10". Rondo is neither of those.

I am a big fan of Rondo, and I wouldn't seek trading him. But I wouldn't consider him (nor any other player) untouchable by any means.

Now the contract is very cap-friendly, so that is another reason to have to be blown away in order to move him.

Revisiting past bad trades is irrelevant, as they weren't on DA's watch and either we traded them away too young or didn't get fair value in return. We know how good Rondo is.

CP3, DWill, Rose, and Wall are all extremely talented too, so he even if he is THE most talented, the current/future crop in the NBA isn't very far behind.

His leadership is questionable, his attitude dubious at times.

Celtic fans can sometimes wear their green glasses a little too much. He is a great player. But not a savior. For every exceptional game you can show me, I can show you a dud, and it's usually the next game.

I highly doubt he gets moved and I'm not in favor of exploring one per se, but to insinuate he is utterly untradeable?

I like your posts, GE, and I agree with most (TP). However, I never said he was the reason we almost won, and I would never say so ... I am a believer in Ubuntu and the "We Not Me" philosophy of team sports ... this team does what it does because of it, and no single player is the reason we win anything.

As far as anyone (or you) being able to run the team in 2008, well, that's a nice dream, but one that's unfortunately un-provable. There have been very few times, (if any), in the history of the NBA where a PG in his first year starting, has taken a team to the Championship, and the pressures and responsibilities of such are a big reason why ... everything else is just conjecture.

I have never said that he was the best PG in the league, only that I believe that one day he will be one of the best, and I feel strongly about that. As far as his leadership and attitude, well, I just don't see "dubious" and "questionable" ... he's far from perfect or "untouchable", but in the three years he's run the point, he's won a championship, almost won another, and went very deep in the third. Kinda speaks for itself, and puts him on a level above the other PG's you've mentioned here.

Was it because of him alone? Of course not! But he's was one cog in the wheel that did so, a cog with the floor leadreship responsibilities. Being able to play unselfishly at PG, is as important a trait as all the others, and maybe part of the reason he's in such rare company, is because he had that "it" factor that gave him the intuition to do so, long before other similarly talented PG's in the league.

Who knows ... all I can say is that he's accomplished more in his four years, (three years starting), than many better or more highly-valued PG's will in their entire careers. His free-throw shooting will come, like every other part of his game has when he's given enough time to it. As far as jump-shooting, well, anyone that can almost beat Kevin Durant in HORSE, isn't very far from perfecting that part of his game.

Time will tell, but to say we got him at a "steal" is an understatement ... he could probably have gotten almost twice that if he had gone elsewhere, and I don't want the C's to pull another "Chauncey" ... no way. Whatever happens, I'd rather stick with a guy that's already been there, and who still has a ton of un-tapped potential, than a higher-priced, ego-based "star" who hasn't. Gold in the hand.

[ajgoodman]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

Eh....It's not often a 6'1" player can lead your team to titles.

Don't fool yourself and say Rondo was the reason we almost won a championship this past season. 2009 he was spectacular, but he also got neutralized by the likes of Rafer Alston at important moments in vital games. I think I could have ran the point in 2008.

He is an unbelievable point guard. He can do almost everything great. He will never be a knock down shooter though. His long arms and gigantic hands leave too much room for bad mechanics. His free throw shooting is currently atrocious, a bad sign for jump shooting.

I do not believe a player of his offensive abilities can be the best player on your team and you be successful. May he be the exception? I don't know. But I do know players like John Stockton and Kevin Johnson (severely underrated IMO) were top 10 PG's of all time and never won a championship because they were relied on too much. Look at where the Hornets are now. Look at the Jazz in May every season. Look at Steve Nash's career.

A PG can play great and the team still not win. Maybe if you are a prolific scorer or Magic Johnson and 6'10". Rondo is neither of those.

I am a big fan of Rondo, and I wouldn't seek trading him. But I wouldn't consider him (nor any other player) untouchable by any means.

Now the contract is very cap-friendly, so that is another reason to have to be blown away in order to move him.

Revisiting past bad trades is irrelevant, as they weren't on DA's watch and either we traded them away too young or didn't get fair value in return. We know how good Rondo is.

CP3, DWill, Rose, and Wall are all extremely talented too, so he even if he is THE most talented, the current/future crop in the NBA isn't very far behind.

His leadership is questionable, his attitude dubious at times.

Celtic fans can sometimes wear their green glasses a little too much. He is a great player. But not a savior. For every exceptional game you can show me, I can show you a dud, and it's usually the next game.

I highly doubt he gets moved and I'm not in favor of exploring one per se, but to insinuate he is utterly untradeable?

Amen.  Tommy Point for you.

[Bahku]

If you trade Rondo, even for an elite point guard like a Chris Paul, you are putting your present, as well as your future in jeopard.  The reason Rondo is so good is not because he is a scorer, it is because he is a good defender and distributor.  The Celtics did not and do not win because they have the top scorer in the league.  They win because the scoring is evenly distributed making it difficult for other teams to double anyone, and making it a more evenly spaced floor.  Rondo is still young and point guards (like centers) mature later than other positions.  Rondo also has been mentored by the best.  Another point guard would have to learn the system, and learn where each of the other celtics is most efficient with the ball.  I agree with Bahku.  Rondo is a top 3 or top 5 point guard now and is still improving.  The idea is to make a team better, not to trade one of its best assets.  Danny knows this and that is why he would not include  Rondo  in the deal to get KG.

TP, TB.

[GreenEnvy]

I am adamantly opposed to trading Rajon ... this kid will eventually become one of the greatest point guards of all-time, and I don't want to be discussing on this blog what a foolish thing we did by trading him, (after securing him with what is assuredly one of the sweetest "Best Buy" contracts in a long time). We've been there too many times before, (with Chauncey, et al), and it's not a fun place to be as a fan. So I will be opposed to almost any ideas involving trading one of the most talented young PG's to come along in a cat's, (or even dog's), age. No, thank you.

Eh....It's not often a 6'1" player can lead your team to titles.

Don't fool yourself and say Rondo was the reason we almost won a championship this past season. 2009 he was spectacular, but he also got neutralized by the likes of Rafer Alston at important moments in vital games. I think I could have ran the point in 2008.

He is an unbelievable point guard. He can do almost everything great. He will never be a knock down shooter though. His long arms and gigantic hands leave too much room for bad mechanics. His free throw shooting is currently atrocious, a bad sign for jump shooting.

I do not believe a player of his offensive abilities can be the best player on your team and you be successful. May he be the exception? I don't know. But I do know players like John Stockton and Kevin Johnson (severely underrated IMO) were top 10 PG's of all time and never won a championship because they were relied on too much. Look at where the Hornets are now. Look at the Jazz in May every season. Look at Steve Nash's career.

A PG can play great and the team still not win. Maybe if you are a prolific scorer or Magic Johnson and 6'10". Rondo is neither of those.

I am a big fan of Rondo, and I wouldn't seek trading him. But I wouldn't consider him (nor any other player) untouchable by any means.

Now the contract is very cap-friendly, so that is another reason to have to be blown away in order to move him.

Revisiting past bad trades is irrelevant, as they weren't on DA's watch and either we traded them away too young or didn't get fair value in return. We know how good Rondo is.

CP3, DWill, Rose, and Wall are all extremely talented too, so he even if he is THE most talented, the current/future crop in the NBA isn't very far behind.

His leadership is questionable, his attitude dubious at times.

Celtic fans can sometimes wear their green glasses a little too much. He is a great player. But not a savior. For every exceptional game you can show me, I can show you a dud, and it's usually the next game.

I highly doubt he gets moved and I'm not in favor of exploring one per se, but to insinuate he is utterly untradeable?

I like your posts, GE, and I agree with most (TP). However, I never said he was the reason we almost won, and I would never say so ... I am a believer in Ubuntu and the "We Not Me" philosophy of team sports ... this team does what it does because of it, and no single player is the reason we win anything.

As far as anyone (or you) being able to run the team in 2008, well, that's a nice dream, but one that's unfortunately un-provable. There have been very few times, (if any), in the history of the NBA where a PG in his first year starting, has taken a team to the Championship, and the pressures and responsibilities of such are a big reason why ... everything else is just conjecture.

I have never said that he was the best PG in the league, only that I believe that one day he will be one of the best, and I feel strongly about that. As far as his leadership and attitude, well, I just don't see "dubious" and "questionable" ... he's far from perfect or "untouchable", but in the three years he's run the point, he's won a championship, almost won another, and went very deep in the third. Kinda speaks for itself, and puts him on a level above the other PG's you've mentioned here.

Was it because of him alone? Of course not! But he's was one cog in the wheel that did so, a cog with the floor leadreship responsibilities. Being able to play unselfishly at PG, is as important a trait as all the others, and maybe part of the reason he's in such rare company, is because he had that "it" factor that gave him the intuition to do so, long before other similarly talented PG's in the league.

Who knows ... all I can say is that he's accomplished more in his four years, (three years starting), than many better or more highly-valued PG's will in their entire careers. His free-throw shooting will come, like every other part of his game has when he's given enough time to it. As far as jump-shooting, well, anyone that can almost beat Kevin Durant in HORSE, isn't very far from perfecting that part of his game.

Time will tell, but to say we got him at a "steal" is an understatement ... he could probably have gotten almost twice that if he had gone elsewhere, and I don't want the C's to pull another "Chauncey" ... no way. Whatever happens, I'd rather stick with a guy that's already been there, and who still has a ton of un-tapped potential, than a higher-priced, ego-based "star" who hasn't. Gold in the hand.

My bad Bahku, I quoted you, but wasn't necessarily calling you out. I'm just venting from all the Rondo hype I've seen over the past couple seasons. I think the nation (and more importantly, the league) has taken witness to how good he really is, and teams really do have to prepare for him just as much as limiting Pierce, sticking to Ray, or getting psyched out by our bigs. But so many Celtics fans like to pimp him like he is the second coming of Bird. And I do like Rondo, so I'm not trying to bash him by any means.

So my last post was kinda putting words in your mouth. I agree with what you are saying, and he already is one of the best (top 3-5 IMO), but not on a consistent basis like the others. He dominates games with the best of them, but he does it few and far between to be mentioned with them as a complete player.

That's what separates him from players like DWill, CP3 and Nash. They have all proven their worth as leaders of their respective teams. Rondo is undoubtedly a (key) cog, but who really knows how he would fair with inferior offensive (and defensive) players around him. CP3 took his team to the top of the West in 2008 (should have won MVP, IMO, and not because I'm a Kobe hater), and Nash is a 2-time MVP. DWill has a strong resume too.

Whether that is as impressive as Rondo's playoff accomplishments, it's hard to say (for me anyway) when the quality of the Celtics roster and coaching staff is dramatically better than the teams of other elite PG's.


As far as his leadership and attitude, I don't live in New England, so I don't get local coverage like most C's fans. But from what I have heard, there was a riff somewhere with him and the veterans, even if it was short-lived. He is stubborn and cocky (which I am fine with, for the most part). There were even rumors that Danny was listening to offers last summer, which I know doesn't mean he was actively shopping him, but it was a message from Danny to Rondo, at least that's how I perceived it.

It's not often you grab a player of Rondo's magnitude that late in the draft (seriously, the Sun's must still be kicking themselves) AND let him develop AND lock him up to a manageable contract.

The Celtics definitely know what they are doing with him, so if he is ever moved I am extremely confident it would be for the better of the team.

[wdleehi]

Deal two is the only one I would do. 

[GreenEnvy]

If you trade Rondo, even for an elite point guard like a Chris Paul, you are putting your present, as well as your future in jeopard.  The reason Rondo is so good is not because he is a scorer, it is because he is a good defender and distributor.  The Celtics did not and do not win because they have the top scorer in the league.  They win because the scoring is evenly distributed making it difficult for other teams to double anyone, and making it a more evenly spaced floor.  Rondo is still young and point guards (like centers) mature later than other positions.  Rondo also has been mentored by the best.  Another point guard would have to learn the system, and learn where each of the other celtics is most efficient with the ball.  I agree with Bahku.  Rondo is a top 3 or top 5 point guard now and is still improving.  The idea is to make a team better, not to trade one of its best assets.  Danny knows this and that is why he would not include  Rondo  in the deal to get KG.

How can you be putting this team in jeopardy now or in the future when Paul is only 9 months older than Rondo?

Paul may not be as elite a defender as Rondo, but he is no slouch either, probably top 5. Paul is in the same class as Rondo and Nash as far as distributors go (although Rondo does make some passes I don't think anyone in the world can make - but he also makes some boneheaded one's as well).

Rebounding is clearly a huge disparity, but if we are going to have to rely on our PG to get rebounds again, we are asking for trouble.

The scoring is a big deal, because it opens up the offense so much. Remember when they put Kobe on Rajon in 2008, that was abysmal. They definitely can't do that to the same extent now, but they still played 3/4 defense on him and helped off. CP3 adds another 3PT-shooter, another great FT-shooter. He can drive (and finish or kick out) just about as good as Rondo.

I don't think it's as risky a move as some do, but then there is also the fact that other pieces would have to be involved, to the point where I would then probably oppose.

He would not adversely affect the Bit Three at all IMO.

This is all summer NBA talk as I'm sure Danny probably never even talks to New Orleans about CP3.


I'm not asking for a 36-year-old Steve Nash who is incapable of defense. I'm talking about a 25-year-old CP3. The only drawback I see is his salary and his injury. Neither of which should be major factors in a team looking at him.