Forget the Super Heat, The Cs won't even make it past the Bulls

[Birdbrain]

Rose
Korver
Redick
Noah
Boozer

Honestly, with all the trouble they've given us over the years, this roster looks to be an absolute force. I mean, wow. They're basically a younger, faster version of the Celtics with better shooting and rebounding. Redick and Korver are absolutely going to light it up for 3 point land. Pierce and Ray have no hope of keeping up. Down low, Noah is going to give KG all kinds of headaches and even if Perk can't neutralize Boozer, he brings no offensive game of his own. And Rondo/Rose is pretty much a wash.

In essence, they outmatch us from virtually every position and I don't see any way we get past them with all the weapons they bring to the table. In fact, I like this team as a sleeper team to take out both us, The Super Heat and The Magic. Hell, they may even give the Lakers a run for their money (though I think the size of Gasol/Bynum will ultimately be the tipping point for the Lakers). I mean, really, how can we hope to beat this team? Even if our defense can slow them down, their rebounding, speed and 3 point power is going to do us in.

The best we can hope for is that this team does well enough in the regular season to wind up on the other side of the bracket. If them and the Heat can beat each other up enough before the have to face us, maybe we stand an outside chance of beating whichever team makes it out of that blood bath. The East is shaping up to be an absolute gunfight and the Celtics are bringing a walker.

Bill Simmons agrees with you. 

This Chicago team has never won a playoff series.

Don't know about gun fight or blood bath but, I'll be picking he C's... again. 

I hope for your sake you are really a Bulls fan of course you might be just a gen X liker LJ and just see the game a tad differently. 

Have a nice day.

[manl_lui]

seriously Jermaine was only awful in the Celtics Miami series because our defense neutralized him. IN this league besides being talents, size DOES matter. Look through our series from Miami to Orlando, we won because mostly of our size and defense.

Perk
KG
Sheed
BBD

we basically have 4 talented bigs that can play defense and offense, Miami had who? Beasley, O'Neal? no problem

Cavaliers had who? Shaq, Varejao, Hickson? no problem

Orlando had who? Dwight, Gortat, Lewis?
>>KG himself neutralized Lewis all by himself, played hack-a-Dwight also was an advantage...

then comes to Lakers,

Gasol, Bynum and Odom, are all talented bigs who can score and play defense,

we were 5 points away from our 18th banner but one big reason was because of Perk being out in game 7, hence the 20 offensive boards.

I am no where near afraid of the Bulls, we might lose 2 games in 4 game in the regular season but my bet is still with the Celtics within 6 if we were to face them in the playoffs

As for the Super Heat, they will give us problems but without a big, i can only imagine what Perkins, KG and BBD will do...depending on who the Heat can get, if we do lose to them, I dont see the Celtics losing in 4, or 5 or 6...the Heat will have to take us to game 7 to win against us...

[Surferdad]

I'm sure you're joking, here.  Pierce and Allen "have no hope of keeping up" with Redick and Korver?  Come on, please!

They are a nice young team, though.  Serious contenders this season?  No way.

Agree.  I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of this thread.

[GreenEnvy]

Rose
Korver
Redick
Noah
Boozer

Honestly, with all the trouble they've given us over the years, this roster looks to be an absolute force. I mean, wow. They're basically a younger, faster version of the Celtics with better shooting and rebounding. Redick and Korver are absolutely going to light it up for 3 point land. Pierce and Ray have no hope of keeping up. Down low, Noah is going to give KG all kinds of headaches and even if Perk can't neutralize Boozer, he brings no offensive game of his own. And Rondo/Rose is pretty much a wash.

In essence, they outmatch us from virtually every position and I don't see any way we get past them with all the weapons they bring to the table. In fact, I like this team as a sleeper team to take out both us, The Super Heat and The Magic. Hell, they may even give the Lakers a run for their money (though I think the size of Gasol/Bynum will ultimately be the tipping point for the Lakers). I mean, really, how can we hope to beat this team? Even if our defense can slow them down, their rebounding, speed and 3 point power is going to do us in.

The best we can hope for is that this team does well enough in the regular season to wind up on the other side of the bracket. If them and the Heat can beat each other up enough before the have to face us, maybe we stand an outside chance of beating whichever team makes it out of that blood bath. The East is shaping up to be an absolute gunfight and the Celtics are bringing a walker.

Wow.

Rondo > Rose (it's close though)
Allen >>>>> Redick (if he is even on the team)
Pierce >>>>>>>>>>>> Deng/Korver (not even remotely close in any way)
Garnett >>> Boozer (really, what has Boozer ever done?)
Perk/O'Neal > Noah (take your pick really, Perk has the best defense, JO offense, Noah rebounding)

What made that 2009 series so close was a couple things.
1. No KG
2. Ben Gordon and John Salmons

Other than the first game of the series, Rondo thoroughly outplayed Rose. Both are gonna be much better players in the 2011 playoffs though anyway.

[GreenFaith1819]

Rose
Korver
Redick
Noah
Boozer

Honestly, with all the trouble they've given us over the years, this roster looks to be an absolute force. I mean, wow. They're basically a younger, faster version of the Celtics with better shooting and rebounding. Redick and Korver are absolutely going to light it up for 3 point land. Pierce and Ray have no hope of keeping up. Down low, Noah is going to give KG all kinds of headaches and even if Perk can't neutralize Boozer, he brings no offensive game of his own. And Rondo/Rose is pretty much a wash.

In essence, they outmatch us from virtually every position and I don't see any way we get past them with all the weapons they bring to the table. In fact, I like this team as a sleeper team to take out both us, The Super Heat and The Magic. Hell, they may even give the Lakers a run for their money (though I think the size of Gasol/Bynum will ultimately be the tipping point for the Lakers). I mean, really, how can we hope to beat this team? Even if our defense can slow them down, their rebounding, speed and 3 point power is going to do us in.

The best we can hope for is that this team does well enough in the regular season to wind up on the other side of the bracket. If them and the Heat can beat each other up enough before the have to face us, maybe we stand an outside chance of beating whichever team makes it out of that blood bath. The East is shaping up to be an absolute gunfight and the Celtics are bringing a walker.

Well, GH - I'll take our Starting Five over that one (CHI) any day. Sure, Chicago has vastly improved, but I don't see them beating us in a series.

Perk (or J.O) will neutralize Noah..Noah is certainly an up-and-coming Big - somewhat similar to Perk, but - he isn't Perk (or as gifted offensively) as JO. I think we have a slight advantage here.

KG VS Boozer? Well, Boozer has had a LOT of trouble in the past with long PF's, and they don't come much longer (Or Better Defensively) than our KG. Gasol gave Boozer much frustration in the playoffs the last two yrs, due to his height alone. I would watch Gasol (or Bynum) just simply hold their arms and hands straight (textbook Defense) up whenever Boozer got the ball down low, and this alone was enought to create enough havoc for Boozer to miss.

Offensively? KG will have no trouble getting his shot off VS Boozer, who's 6'9". Plus, the thing that makes me happy is that we will have the 09-10 playoff version KG (Version 2.1  ) from here on out vice the version who sadly limped through the regular season due to his rehabbing knee.

KG said all along last year that his knee was fine, and he showed it to me at least during the playoffs.

As for SF? You mean Korver? Korver? Look he's a great shooter, no doubt, but unless CHI has Deng who can slow Pierce down somewhat, I look for Pierce to have the same kind of playoff series against CHI as he had against ORL last yr - when he basically torched Matt Barnes.

Backcourt? Sure - Rose is a top 6 or 7 PG, but our Rondo is a Top 3. And Rondo is now 2+yrs advanced from Rose having that stellar playoff series against him, in 08-09. While Rose will definitely cause us fits, he certainly won't have the same effect again like he had then. He will have a more mobile KG, Perk, and O'Neal waiting for him in the paint this time to counter him from just waltzing into it like he did in 08-09. Plus, we will have TA or Nate to slow him down. If TA could give Kobe and Wade fits last playoffs, then Rose is certainly not above those two.

Redddick? He is a crafty defender and scorer, but it will be interesting to see him put up the same numbers as a starter. I was rooting for him to come to Boston as a backup to Ray. Now, as a starter in CHI VS us? I'll take our Backcourt of Ray and Rondo (and TA and Nate) any day.

Plus, our overall Bench strength of Davis, TA, Nate, (Hopefully Scal), Shelden and eventually Jermaine O'Neal once Perk comes back will certainly spell our starters - and I think they will be better than whatever CHI can put out there.

Plus, Danny isn't finished getting us more players, I think. IMO, we need one more Offensive Wing, who doesn't mind playing defense - who can spell Pierce.

Dorrell Wright, anyone? I've always been intrigued by him.

TP for the discussion, GH. That's my take. IF we met CHI in the playoffs in 10-11, we will beat them in 6 rather tough games. But it will be Six. And by then, we will have Perk back.

Edit - I forgot all about Harangody, Bradley and Marquis Daniels. My Bad.

We may very well have the team we need to do compete next yr already.

Perk (or J.O) will neutralize Noah..Noah is certainly an up-and-coming Big - somewhat similar to Perk, but - he isn't Perk (or as gifted offensively) as JO. I think we have a slight advantage here.

WHAT?  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  PERK's KNEE WAS SHREDDED and JO WAS GOD AWFUL IN THE PLAYOFFS!  DONT BE SUCH A HOMER!

LOL! Nope -not kidding you, my friend. Perk will come back from his injury, and JO looked bad only because of Perk. Perk made Dwight look bad at times - he does that to most Centers.

JO paired with KG will make for a very tough frontline - better than most out there. Our interior Defense just got stronger.

And wait until Perk comes back.

You don't have to trust my typing, jv - just look at the ESPN Game Logs of Jermaine O'Neal - JO did a good job on Dwight last season - MIA VS ORL. The only Big combo that gave him trouble was LA's. But JO has never played with a PF like KG before.

Heck - you could grow me to 7'0" and place me at center for Boston and KG would make me look good. KG makes people better by his presence.
 

[GreenFaith1819]

Additionally - Jermaine O'Neal will get Bynum in Foul trouble quickly - mark my words on that one. Perk is good, but I'd like to see Bynum deal with JO's offense in the post. He may not be Sheed, but he's close.

With Bynum assuming his rightful place on the bench, this will leave Gasol to deal with both KG and JO (or Davis). And Gasol proved to me last yr that he is half the PF that ESPN is making him out to be when Bynum is out of the game.

Jermaine O'Neal on The Boston Celtics will help us out big time.

Just stay healthy, JO - please.

[xmuscularghandix]

Remember when Philly got Brand and they were gonna compete for the division? 

[pearljammer10]

Since when did J.J. Reddick become the greatest most fearful player in the world to celtics nation? And Kyle Korver? Seriously? And Deng not in your starting five is ABSURD!!!

Korver has no business starting on the Bulls and neither does Redick either... Boozer was a great addition. Noah and Rose are great players, but I am not worried about Chicago in the least. This summer didnt turn out to go their way and they arent that much significantly better than last year the way i see it.

[Jon]

So they've added boozer and two backup wings.  Big whoop. 

They still might get knocked out in the first round. 

[colincb]

I concur with the most of the other posters. The original post doesn't do much in the way of analysis, the Bulls gave us trouble in the 2009 playoffs and still lost with KG on the bench, they have won 3 of 11 games against us otherwise in the last 3 years, and the Bulls wouldn't start those 5 players any how.

[Bahku]

Let the pessimists, (sorry ... the realists), unite! They're getting started early this year, huh? Well, it wouldn't be our good ol' CB without them, so go crazy, doubters!

All it means is another humbling playoff season for you next spring, and a few well-timed "I told you so"'s after we teach the Bulls a lesson ... again! (Yawn)

[PosImpos]

Bro, Noah is the center, Boozer is the PF.  Korver will come off the bench.  Deng will start.

The Bulls look like a 50-55 win team to me.  Don't know if they'll really contend, at least not in the first year.  But they'll be a lot better than they were last year - heck, better than the Jazz were last year.

Will they be better in the post-season than the Heat, Magic, or Celtics?  I'm not so sure about that.

[fairweatherfan06]

I got the Bulls as the 4th or 5th seed in the East.  Depending on how Atlanta and the Bucks look next year.  Well behind the Celtics, Magic and Heat.  Which I'd pencil as seeds 1-3 in the east in whatever order it shakes out.  In 2-3 years the Bulls will be more imposing but next year they'll just be pretty good.

[Who]

I wouldn't put the Bulls ahead of the Celtics. Boston are still the better team.

Chicago are a real threat though. They're not as good as the Celtics are but they are close enough in ability to give them a real run for their money.

[misha]

I don't see the Bulls as a big threat to us at all. Will they be a good team? Sure. Can they eliminate the C's in the 7 games series? No way.