Now it gets interesting....filling the roster

[fairweatherfan06]

Not talking about Lebron's "decision"  talking about how we fill the roster. 


If Jermaine Oneal comes which I think there is a good shot our starting 5 is set.

Who do we get with the what's left of the MLE?  I have no idea how we use Sheed's contract.  Who comes for the minimum for a shot at a ring.

Wings:
T-Mac (unlikely)
Harrington (also unlikely)
Outlaw (hopefully)
Butler (maybe???)
Damien Wilkins (not many talking about him but perhaps??)
Battier in some kind of trade/salary dump (possible??)

I think Mike Miller is destined for more money than he's worth (more than the MLE) in Miami or NY BTW but I'll put him up here for argument's sake.

Minimum Bigs:
Kwame
Kurt Thomas
Joe Smith
who else???

PG's (pretty thin here not even sure if Danny is looking for one, might just let Brady learn on the job)
Felton is going to Miami or NY
Ridnour (same as above) though he and Ray used to form a backcourt tandem and have a good relationship but its unlikely if he can start somewhere else
Foye: combo guard but possible
Livingston (looks better a year removed from surgery and Ainge used to like him a lot)

Best and worse scenarios whaddya think. 

BTW I think TA resigns unless Chicago and Thibs choose to overpay for him to play in his hometown.

[dpaps]

Rondo
Ray
Pierce
Garnett
Perkins (Once he's back)

Steve Francis
Allen Iverson
Tmac
Jermaine O'neal
Ben Wallace


Trade to Miami Sheed and Harangody, for JO in a sign and trade. They get another second round pick that they can sign to a minimum contract to fill out the roster. Sign Steve Francis and Ben Wallace to vet min contracts. MLE for Tmac and Iverson.  Easy.

[PosImpos]

Rondo
Ray
Pierce
Garnett
Perkins (Once he's back)

Steve Francis
Allen Iverson
Tmac
Jermaine O'neal
Ben Wallace


Trade to Miami Sheed and Harangody, for JO in a sign and trade. They get another second round pick that they can sign to a minimum contract to fill out the roster. Sign Steve Francis and Ben Wallace to vet min contracts. MLE for Tmac and Iverson.  Easy.

Can we just rename them the Boston Washed-Up-Superstars?



Right now this is how it looks to be going:

C: J. O'Neal / Kwame / Perk (injured)
PF: KG / Davis / Harangody
SF: Pierce / ? / Antoine Wright
SG: Ray Ray / TA / Bradley
PG: Rondo / Lafayette

I don't know who the team can realistically get as the backup wing who will fill the team needs.  It needs to be somebody good for us to have any chance at competing next season.  I expect DA to make some kind of trade with Sheed's contract to acquire help on the wing. 

The main problem is that most of the guys who are good enough to provide the kind of help the Celtics need on the wing are going to get totally over-inflated contracts above the MLE (I'm looking at you, Mike Miller).

[LooseCannon]

If the Celtics bring back Tony Allen and Nate Robinson, the combination of those two plus Avery Bradley should be plenty good to back up Ray Allen.

If the Celtics can trade Sheed's contract, I think the target should be:

1) Fits within the defensive system
2) Is at least 6'7"
3) Is best suited to play small forward behind Pierce.

Pierce has a four-year deal and Bradley should be looked at right now as the shooting guard of the future, so I think that looking for a young back-up wing with potential is the wrong strategy.  The goal should be to find a serviceable back-up small forward, someone who is at his peak, and maybe also a player suited to be the fifth big.

My ideal would be a big 3 with range who in theory could play the 4, but lacks bulk, and probably should only play the 4 as part of a smallball lineup or against weaker, reserve 4s.  I'm not sure what players fit this mold.  I guess I'm looking for something like a poor man's Mike Dunleavy.

[HYPE.]

My ideal would be a big 3 with range who in theory could play the 4, but lacks bulk, and probably should only play the 4 as part of a smallball lineup or against weaker, reserve 4s.  I'm not sure what players fit this mold.  I guess I'm looking for something like a poor man's Mike Dunleavy.

*cough* DeShawn Sims. 

[Jeff]

I actually think Jermaine O'Neal might be a good fit - I think he's good friends with Pierce too, so there's always that

I wouldn't hesitate to add Kwame Brown on a minimum deal either - he's good insurance if JO has recurring injury issues himself

I wouldn't mind Tony Allen back but I'd take a Rudy Fernandez in replace of him as well

if we use part of the MLE to sign O'Neal then we'll have the smaller portion of it left to sign someone else - maybe a backup 3?  Ideally I'd like to get Gomes with that but I think he might be more expensive than what we can aford.

then there's the magic question of what we can get with Sheed's contract...

fun stuff indeed

potential linup:

Rondo | Bradley
Ray | Tony or Rudy
Paul | ?
KG | Baby | Harangody
O'Neal? | Brown? | Perk(i) | Erden

[kozlodoev]

By the way, O'Neal hasn't played more than 70 games in any of the last 6 season, and has never played a full, 82-game season. I don't even think it's a good idea going into the season without someone like Kwame Brown as insurance.

[LAceltic34]

If the Celtics bring back Tony Allen and Nate Robinson, the combination of those two plus Avery Bradley should be plenty good to back up Ray Allen.

If the Celtics can trade Sheed's contract, I think the target should be:

1) Fits within the defensive system
2) Is at least 6'7"
3) Is best suited to play small forward behind Pierce.



Pierce has a four-year deal and Bradley should be looked at right now as the shooting guard of the future, so I think that looking for a young back-up wing with potential is the wrong strategy.  The goal should be to find a serviceable back-up small forward, someone who is at his peak, and maybe also a player suited to be the fifth big.

My ideal would be a big 3 with range who in theory could play the 4, but lacks bulk, and probably should only play the 4 as part of a smallball lineup or against weaker, reserve 4s.  I'm not sure what players fit this mold.  I guess I'm looking for something like a poor man's Mike Dunleavy.

Harangody?....he definitely has the touch ,he just needs to knock down some shots

[CoachBo]

Nah.

I don't see anything worth keeping on the summer league roster. Don't like any of them.

[LAceltic34]

By the way, O'Neal hasn't played more than 70 games in any of the last 6 season, and has never played a full, 82-game season. I don't even think it's a good idea going into the season without someone like Kwame Brown as insurance.

Kwame would be perfect in that position for us after J.O'neal and when Perk gets back we will be super long. J. Oneal 6 ft 11", Kwame Brown 6ft 11", Kendrick Perkins 6ft 10" and Kevin Garnett 7ft and Big Baby...am I being too greedy by asking for Mike Miller now? Or trade Sheed's deal for Beasley who is 6'9" or 6'10" and we will be super duper long...lol

[Coach]

I'd love to see us go after Reddick.  The way he played against us, made me respect him. Played great D on Ray, and wasn't afraid to step up and take shots. 

What would he cost?  Full MLE?  Would Orlando Match?

[wasi]

I'd love to see us go after Reddick.  The way he played against us, made me respect him. Played great D on Ray, and wasn't afraid to step up and take shots. 

What would he cost?  Full MLE?  Would Orlando Match?

He impressed me when we played him too, just very solid and can spread the floor.

My best guess is 4-5 mill per year but unless he gets offered a bad contract then the Magic will match. That's just my opinion but I think they like him a lot.

[ssspence]

I actually think Jermaine O'Neal might be a good fit - I think he's good friends with Pierce too, so there's always that

I wouldn't hesitate to add Kwame Brown on a minimum deal either - he's good insurance if JO has recurring injury issues himself

I wouldn't mind Tony Allen back but I'd take a Rudy Fernandez in replace of him as well

if we use part of the MLE to sign O'Neal then we'll have the smaller portion of it left to sign someone else - maybe a backup 3?  Ideally I'd like to get Gomes with that but I think he might be more expensive than what we can aford.

then there's the magic question of what we can get with Sheed's contract...

fun stuff indeed

potential linup:

Rondo | Bradley
Ray | Tony or Rudy
Paul | ?
KG | Baby | Harangody
O'Neal? | Brown? | Perk(i) | Erden

If the Heat add LeBron, Kwame Brown is the perfect candidate to go to there for the minimum. He can just play D and get dunks, while increasing his value 5 fold in one year. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. And he lives nearby.

Guys like Kwame are the ones they'll have to target.

[ssspence]

My ideal would be a big 3 with range who in theory could play the 4, but lacks bulk, and probably should only play the 4 as part of a smallball lineup or against weaker, reserve 4s.  I'm not sure what players fit this mold.  I guess I'm looking for something like a poor man's Mike Dunleavy.

*cough* DeShawn Sims. 

I agree -- he should get a camp invite. If what Steve Smith was saying yesterday is true, and he was playing completely out of position at center for Michigan, he could certainly be a diamond in the rough.

[LAceltic34]

I actually think Jermaine O'Neal might be a good fit - I think he's good friends with Pierce too, so there's always that

I wouldn't hesitate to add Kwame Brown on a minimum deal either - he's good insurance if JO has recurring injury issues himself

I wouldn't mind Tony Allen back but I'd take a Rudy Fernandez in replace of him as well

if we use part of the MLE to sign O'Neal then we'll have the smaller portion of it left to sign someone else - maybe a backup 3?  Ideally I'd like to get Gomes with that but I think he might be more expensive than what we can aford.

then there's the magic question of what we can get with Sheed's contract...

fun stuff indeed

potential linup:

Rondo | Bradley
Ray | Tony or Rudy
Paul | ?
KG | Baby | Harangody
O'Neal? | Brown? | Perk(i) | Erden

Offensively (in march I NEVER thought i would be saying this and believing it but...)with his skill set Harangody could be our guy to back up Pierce...The kid can flat out shoot it and he plays through the flow of the game. What he needs to do is watch Bird's footage and learn how to master TEAM Defense, Bird was the best at shading his man into his help D, if he does that there will be alot of block shots leading to Rondo led fast breaks. I may be moving too fast on this heady kid (4yrs in school = not nervous in big game situations) I think he could be Poseylike and may be better offensively?, defensively posey hands down by far but role wise he could fill those type of shoes. Does he take charges?