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Which would you prefer?

Rasheed comes back and plays for at least one more season
19 (24.4%)
Rasheed agrees to retire and we trade his contract
59 (75.6%)

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Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2010, 10:02:42 AM »

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problem is sheed would have to play a ton more minutes with perk out. i dont think he can do that. we still would need to address the starting center spot

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2010, 10:33:22 AM »

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We could use rasheed again for sure...especially IF he gats in better shape....the playoffs might have let him know what he needs to do.....Him and BBD....show them one time without shirts on....not that i want to see that..but it is a good indicator where they are in the "fat boy" program....bball is no place to be out of shape, you need everything you got..! I still think perk is just gone for next year easy, maybe 2 years, the second year, he will be around, but play tentativly.....like TA and KG did, and a lot of others..! That stuff is tough to not only recover from, but to go back into the frey..! I hope kobe gets his soon..!

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2010, 10:36:48 AM »

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The ne constant thing here, as the vote shows, some people think here that there is always a magic "someone" we can just sign, and make us great again.....first, for the longest time, players didn't want to come to the celtics (why i don't know) B; who is out there we want and is better than we have, and X; do we really have the $$$ for a good player, they want the world, just to play hoop...!

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2010, 10:54:25 AM »

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With an ailing back, I'd prefer he retire and allow the Celtics to use his contract in a trade. The longer he remains a Celtic the worse that signing becomes.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2010, 11:33:53 AM »

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The ne constant thing here, as the vote shows, some people think here that there is always a magic "someone" we can just sign, and make us great again.....first, for the longest time, players didn't want to come to the celtics (why i don't know) B; who is out there we want and is better than we have, and X; do we really have the $$$ for a good player, they want the world, just to play hoop...!
They didn't want to come because the team was terrible or mediocre for a long time.  Players just want to win.
There was a perception for a long time too that Boston was a racist town.  While there are certainly plenty of racist people in the Boston area, I don't think it's a higher percentage than any other city.  Every city has dummies.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2010, 11:38:42 AM »

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After how Rasheed played during the playoffs, he is more than welcome back if he wants to come back. 

I don't believe we will find a better center than him in FA.
I agree.  I think it's a long shot that we get someone as skilled as he is.  While it's a remote possibility we get David Lee, it is technically a possibility, only because Lee is a free agent and can dictate where he goes.  The Knicks would have to do him a favor by doing this though.  Maybe the C's throw in a million or two to get it done.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2010, 11:39:33 AM »

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Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2010, 11:42:37 AM »

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The ne constant thing here, as the vote shows, some people think here that there is always a magic "someone" we can just sign, and make us great again.....first, for the longest time, players didn't want to come to the celtics (why i don't know) B; who is out there we want and is better than we have, and X; do we really have the $$$ for a good player, they want the world, just to play hoop...!
They didn't want to come because the team was terrible or mediocre for a long time.  Players just want to win.
There was a perception for a long time too that Boston was a racist town.  While there are certainly plenty of racist people in the Boston area, I don't think it's a higher percentage than any other city.  Every city has dummies.

  There's also a perception that it's cold in the winter here. We're not the only northern team that are seen as less attractive than places like Phoenix, LA, Orlando or Tx.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2010, 11:45:50 AM »

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I would rather trade Wallace and let him retire then comeback in January for vet minimum.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2010, 11:50:10 AM »

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I wonder if Sheed's retirement will be influenced by what we can get with his contract. I don't mind if he doesn't retire. I'd love to have him back for the playoffs but he needs to sit out a good part of the regular season. He can't play full-time C with Perk out.
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Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2010, 11:51:36 AM »

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67805/20100703/rasheed_might_rethink_retirement/

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Rasheed Wallace may re-think his decision to retire, according to a source.

Because Wallace had two years and $13 million (including $6.32 million next season) remaining on his deal when he retired, the Celtics have been looking into moving his contract to another team, which would then get the savings from Wallace's cap number, in exchange for assets.

Well that would certainly stink... but if our best bet is a washed up scrub like Brad miller... guess it doesn't matter much anyways.




Why, what's wrong with Brad Miller??!! So is everyone not named Ryan Gomes or Delonte West in the NBA a scrub?

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2010, 12:21:31 PM »

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you know, brad miller may help. he has experience, is in shape, and not afraid to hit the guy who deserves it, as long as he doesn't go hitting everyone, he is sort of an enforcer type...is he cheap..? Sheed has more skills than most, and as for his back, well a good offseason approach could fix it...depends on how bad it is.....being out of shape and playing hard bball will bring more pain than being in shape...! We'll need both miller and sheed, and two more 7 footers would be nice also.....! Boston is no more racist than anywhere, and racism isn't just a one way street either. Equal means "go to work" and that is a hard life, harder than some expect, with no free special stuff...!

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2010, 12:25:24 PM »

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With an ailing back, I'd prefer he retire and allow the Celtics to use his contract in a trade. The longer he remains a Celtic the worse that signing becomes.

TP.  We all knew the 3rd year was going to be trouble.  The first season doesn't make me excited about the second.

Honestly, I think his "injuries" were the result of his p----poor conditioning as much as age or health, or a combination of age and conditioning.  Younger people can go at it without as much of the aches and pains, but older guys need to take care of themselves better than Sheed did this year.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2010, 12:27:50 PM »

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The ne constant thing here, as the vote shows, some people think here that there is always a magic "someone" we can just sign, and make us great again.....first, for the longest time, players didn't want to come to the celtics (why i don't know) B; who is out there we want and is better than we have, and X; do we really have the $$$ for a good player, they want the world, just to play hoop...!

I think it's more that some storylines and apparent player attitudes just get old fast.

Re: Hold that thought: Rasheed might not retire after all?
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2010, 04:50:11 PM »

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With Doc Rivers deciding to return to the Celtics next season, and Boston close to re-signing Paul Pierce to a four-year deal, a source said Saturday night that there is a "possibility" that veteran forward Rasheed Wallace could re-think his decision last month to retire after 15 NBA seasons. The Celtics believed Wallace would retire after the team's seven-game Finals loss to the Lakers, and he appeared to make the decision final a week or so later.

Because Wallace had two years and $13 million (including $6.32 million next season) remaining on his deal when he retired, the Celtics have been looking into moving his contract to another team, which would then get the savings from Wallace's cap number, in exchange for assets. But obviously, if Wallace decides to play next season, that team wouldn't get the money off of its cap.

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I have mixed feelings about this.  I like what Rasheed brings to the table when he's healthy and motivated.  On the other hand, I'm fairly excited with the possibilities of having up to $9.9 million in cap flexibility (assuming a retiring Rasheed, Gaffney, and LaFayette could be included in a trade.)

Maybe we'll get the best case scenario:  Rasheed says he's retiring, moves to another team where he's bought out for nothing (ala Derek Fisher), and then he decides to come back for the playoffs.  (Although one wonders what type of shape Rasheed would be in after taking the regular season off.)

  By the way, that story doesn't make a ton of sense to me because I heard that Sheed was talking about retiring before the playoffs began. I don't think his leaving was linked to the thought that Paul and/or Doc might not be back.

Well, it doesn't have to be part of his reason in order to be part of his wanting to come back.

He could see all these guys rallying around the idea of having another go at a Title and just be feeding off that energy. I mean, they were one win away from a Title with a game 7 they controlled much of...