Ainge Trying to Trade Sheed's Contract as We Type

[wdleehi]

How about Verejao? If Lebron leaves, Cleveland has to start over from scratch, so they may just want to scratch verejao's salary off the books. he's very good piece to have on a competitive team.

And destroy my dream of watching the Sideshow get his own show?

[Change]

How about Verejao? If Lebron leaves, Cleveland has to start over from scratch, so they may just want to scratch verejao's salary off the books. he's very good piece to have on a competitive team.

A good player. But its a lot of $$$$ for a hustle player. Cavs shot themselves in the foot trying to please Lebron. Now they are stuck with bunch of overpaid Role players.

[Andy Jick]

imagine if Danny pulls it off, then Sheed decides not to retire...oops

Ball does lie...

[rkls134]

There just isn't to many viable options out there in a Sheed deal. maybe if he made more money, believe it or not, but not at 6.5 to 7 million.

I posted in another thread these two deals

S&T Nate with Sheed's contract to

Charlotte for Mohammed and Augustin
or
Houston for Jeffries and Hayes

Yuck! I'd rather just keep the cap savings.

Sheed's contract can get better than that. Add the two D-league guys (has to be after 7/13 from my understanding) and it is more like 9 million in instant cap relief for some team. There are plenty of teams who will be salivating for that. For the right piece, you could add in Perk and Baby's expiring contracts (both could be easily bought-out at this point) and you have just over 15 million in tradable salary. Add the 125% + $100,000 and the C's could afford to take a $17 million contact(s) from some desperate team. I think Danny has a lot of flexibility here to make something very cool happen while keeping the general core of this team intact.

My thinking is Mohammed has 1yr left,  gives inside help, then leaves. Augustin has a team option after next that we don't pick up.

Jeffries is only a defender, the only one the Knicks had before they dumped him, could be useful, 6'10 & long. Chuck Hayes is undersized, but rebounds like crazy and plays D. JVG has said numerous times that after to Yao and Mcgrady, Hayes was his next best player. They both expire after the year.

I don't know what D-league guys your talking about. Sheed has 2yrs left, 6.3m & 6.7m, I don't know where 9m of instant relief comes from. I think you've spent to much time on the trade checker thingy.

[Jack_Frost]

I want Redick!

He is really improved, i like his defense (remember last two ears playoff), he's got heart and give us shooting.

[rkls134]

I still would love Sheed and WHATEVER for Turiaf and Morrow

Throw in draft picks or Nate Rob or Quis. Tony. WhoEVER

Turiaf quicly replaces Perk and plays more productive minutes at PF than BB, and Morrow adds shooting and D to the bench so our MLE can be used on a Pierce replacement like Travis Outlaw or maybe Rudy Gay under a 1 year deal

That's actually feasible & doable. Not Bad considering Morrow is the best shooter in the NBA right now. Turiaf is decent enough to cover for Perk.

I'm just enamored with Randolph and his game. He is the better version of Lamar Odom, and plays with a lot of heart. However, he does have maturity problems. Celtics could use the fresh athletic legs in the front court.

What makes you people think GS is just going to give away Morrow or Randolph for nothing. I'd garauntee Nelson would want 1st round picks in a deal that includes either of them in a deal for Sheed. He has repeatedly said he is not trading them, you would probably do better looking at Tolliver.

Turiaf is not better than the guys I mentioned (Mohammed or Hayes) he's undersized as well, and won't be as good as you think he will be.

The players they want to move are the big money mistakes Nelson has made, Ellis and Biedrins, both have at least 4yrs at more than 12 mil per yr. I don't think Danny wants to go that far out into the future with that kind of money regardless of what they will take back to get rid of them.

[Ethan]

J.J. Redick... would be fantastic!!!

[xmuscularghandix]

Could we get Beasley?

[Bankshot]

If Sheed retires and Ainge trades his contract, would the league allow Sheed to re-sign with us mid season?

[Kwhit10]

I hope Golden State is desperate enough to trade Biedrins for Wallace to shed some salary.

[DinTN]

imagine if Danny pulls it off, then Sheed decides not to retire...oops

I'd be fine with it either way ... this was pretty much what we anticipated.

I'm still hoping Sheed does a PJBrown - unretire just in time to help us in the playoffs.

If we trade Sheed with the contract, he "retires", can he join the Celtics for the playoffs, or is he property of the other team (i.e. have to trade to get him back)?


Apologies to Bankshot. Was typing this and missed your post. Good minds think alike. TP

[Fafnir]

Good hopefully he can land a rotation big for Sheed's contract.

[xmuscularghandix]

If Sheed retires and Ainge trades his contract, would the league allow Sheed to re-sign with us mid season?

If he came back his contract would kick back in on that teams payroll.

[Timbaland7]

Boston Celtics GM Danny Ainge is trying to use Rasheed Wallace’s contract in trade talks, a move that would allow the Celtics to keep their midlevel exception, league sources said.

Wallace has yet to file retirement papers, so the $6.32 million owed him next season and $6.79 million in 2011-12 would come off a team’s books after Wallace is traded to them. They could do a deal and not take on his money. Ainge is trying to use the Wallace contract to bring back a power forward or center to replace Wallace and the injured Kendrick Perkins.

The Celtics could then use their midlevel exception for a different player. Several sources believe that Ainge’s target is Orlando’s J.J. Redick, who is a restricted free agent.

Boston has strong interest in Brad Miller in free agency and could try to acquire Dallas center Erick Dampier.

– Adrian Wojnarowski, June 30, 11:45 ET

This is under trade Buzz on yahoo.

Surprise!  Adrian Wojnarowski is wrong again!  First of all, 'Sheed's third year is a player option, which he would waive by announcing his retirement.  Second, retired players contracts still count against the cap, even if they are not earning any money.
There is one way to get cap relief for a retired player, by him officially signing retirement papers.  This would prevent the player from being allowed to play for 1 year.  But, there is still a catch... it would only provide cap relief to the team that originally signed him.
Long story short... if we trade 'Sheed's "retiring" contract, the receiving team would effectively be receiving an expiring deal that they don't have to pay.
Still... it would be a very attractive deal for teams in financial trouble, or have cheap owners.  It would not be ideal for teams that are in the luxury, because they would still have to pay the dollar-for-dollar tax on 'Sheed's contract, even if they are not paying him.

Make sense???

[DinTN]

If Sheed retires and Ainge trades his contract, would the league allow Sheed to re-sign with us mid season?

If he came back his contract would kick back in on that teams payroll.

Thanks for the insight.

What about this: Sheed is traded. What are the options for him to come back to us mid-season? For example, if the other team buys him out? Any other options?