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Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 10:03:54 AM »

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2 yr deal worth approximately $40 mil.  I don't think he's worth that much, but if you want to make one last run at things, you need to give Pierce some incentive not to go after a 4 yr deal elsewhere.

But I would under no circumstances go past 2 yrs.

Same here.

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 10:11:00 AM »

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Depending if Celtics want to contend next year. If so you pay accordingly. However, Celtics will have to find & athletic SG who can run with Rondo. I highly doubt Ainge will pay both player Pierce & Ray. If Pierce does re-sign for a big chunk, that could be the nail-n-coffin with Ray.

Not max but 4year $60mil or 3year $51mil

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 10:11:48 AM »

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We can offer the money that has been posted. But I think Paul feels he is getting underpaid. KG is making more than him so I guess it must somehow offset the discrepancy between them knowing for a fact he has been with the franchise in his entire career. He also has to take into consideration that he may not be the franchise's face now and that the team is also trying hard to manage a very tight budget.

One thing though that Danny must make is to show his business savvy and cannot be too sentimental - like Red was in the 80s when we still had the original Big 3 - in keeping our current Big 3 when cost efficiency will be compromised. We might get buried financially in the next years to come and will only waste our reliable talent and new All-Star Rondo. Frankly, I would offer PP somewhere between 36-40 million for 3 years to accommodate some talented prospects.

Does anyone else beside me blame 2 young star players dying before they reach their prime as the main reason there was no bridge to the 90's version of the Celtics?

That's a good point (moreso with Bias), but even before Lewis died, the Celtics were still just a decent team.  Not a championship caliber team by any stretch.  I'm not sure exactly what was available for any of the original Big 3 players, but I seem to recall a rumor about Karl Malone being offered for Kevin McHale at one point.  Is that right?

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 10:13:08 AM »

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I'd do any of the following

2 years - 35 million (essentially a 1 year extension at 14 million)
3 years - 42 million (declining salary) i.e. 15 million, 14 million, 13 million
4 years - 50 million (declining salary with the last year a team option with a 4 million buy out) i.e. 14 million, 13 million, 12 million, 11 million
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Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 10:15:58 AM »

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We can offer the money that has been posted. But I think Paul feels he is getting underpaid. KG is making more than him so I guess it must somehow offset the discrepancy between them knowing for a fact he has been with the franchise in his entire career. He also has to take into consideration that he may not be the franchise's face now and that the team is also trying hard to manage a very tight budget.

One thing though that Danny must make is to show his business savvy and cannot be too sentimental - like Red was in the 80s when we still had the original Big 3 - in keeping our current Big 3 when cost efficiency will be compromised. We might get buried financially in the next years to come and will only waste our reliable talent and new All-Star Rondo. Frankly, I would offer PP somewhere between 36-40 million for 3 years to accommodate some talented prospects.

Does anyone else beside me blame 2 young star players dying before they reach their prime as the main reason there was no bridge to the 90's version of the Celtics?

That's a good point (moreso with Bias), but even before Lewis died, the Celtics were still just a decent team.  Not a championship caliber team by any stretch.  I'm not sure exactly what was available for any of the original Big 3 players, but I seem to recall a rumor about Karl Malone being offered for Kevin McHale at one point.  Is that right?

Ouch I have never heard the Malone thing. Ill look into it (TP). It is safe to say luck had as much to do with our stinker of a decade than anything else.

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2010, 10:20:43 AM »

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I'd do any of the following

2 years - 35 million (essentially a 1 year extension at 14 million)
3 years - 42 million (declining salary) i.e. 15 million, 14 million, 13 million
4 years - 50 million (declining salary with the last year a team option with a 4 million buy out) i.e. 14 million, 13 million, 12 million, 11 million
I'd probably try to overpay for two years. Something like 21 and 23 to avoid that third year.

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 10:23:08 AM »

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2 years/ $38 million

I totally agree with this...  And Paul won't, which is why I believe he will leave.
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Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 10:28:22 AM »

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2 years/ $38 million

I totally agree with this...  And Paul won't, which is why I believe he will leave.

If I'm Wyc and can financially afford it, I offer him whatever the max is over two years (can't they get a 20% raise or something on the previous year)?  Blow him out of the water for two years, but make it only two years. 

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 10:29:12 AM »

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2 years/ $38 million

I totally agree with this...  And Paul won't, which is why I believe he will leave.

I'm curious Andy, do you want him to leave? Kind of an unfair question that will almost be answered with "it depends" but nonetheless...

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2010, 10:30:24 AM »

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2 years full max with a player option for the 3rd year. With KG, and hopefully Ray's contract expiring too he probably wouldn't pick it up.
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Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2010, 10:39:27 AM »

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2 years full max with a player option for the 3rd year. With KG, and hopefully Ray's contract expiring too he probably wouldn't pick it up.

Though if that third year is max money, he might darn well pick it up.  At that point, he may only be an MLE type player. 

Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2010, 10:41:12 AM »

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2 years full max with a player option for the 3rd year. With KG, and hopefully Ray's contract expiring too he probably wouldn't pick it up.

Though if that third year is max money, he might darn well pick it up.  At that point, he may only be an MLE type player. 

I agree.  If anything, he'd pick it up and then ask for a trade by mid-season.  No way he would turn down 20+ million at age 36.

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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2010, 10:45:19 AM »

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Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2010, 10:47:02 AM »

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Let him walk.

The run is over.

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Re: What is the most you would offer Paul to stay?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2010, 10:53:34 AM »

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One thing to consider is that NO ONE is going to be offering Pierce a 4 year deal, unless Chicago or some other team with cap space completely misses out on every other free agent. I don't think Pierce would want to finish out his career on that sort of team, so I think two years at max money or three years at significantly less than the max will get the job done.

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