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Offline mahonedog88

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I'm not saying I don't think it will work if it does happen.  But what noone seems to be bringing up in the media is that Derrick Rose, don't get me wrong...great player, but he needs the ball.  Like...he's a score first/me first point guard.

He's still incredibly young and hasn't matured enough yet in the NBA to put his ego aside, in my opinion.

What Lebron needs is either a passing point guard (Rondo-like) or a pure scorer who does NOT need the ball like Rose does.  He had it in Cleveland with Mo Williams, but Mo just wasn't up to the challenge and wasn't consistent enough.

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Rose is a pass-first point guard. Just because he is a natural scorer does not mean he's seflish. Watch Rose for the duration of a season and you can see he is a pure PG. His assist totals are not too high because he simply did not have a good team. If Rose took Rondo's place he would have nearly the same number of assists. Put Rondo on Chicago and you would get Rose-like stats from him, because he has to shoulder the scoring load when the Chicago roster is just plain awful.
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He had no issue passing to Gordon. 

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Rose is a pass-first point guard. Just because he is a natural scorer does not mean he's seflish. Watch Rose for the duration of a season and you can see he is a pure PG. His assist totals are not too high because he simply did not have a good team. If Rose took Rondo's place he would have nearly the same number of assists. Put Rondo on Chicago and you would get Rose-like stats from him, because he has to shoulder the scoring load when the Chicago roster is just plain awful.
Rose is not a pass first point guard, he needs to improve his vision and defense if he's to live up to his talent.

He is an excellent creator for others (and a willing passer), but that's not that same as court vision.

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I personally think D-Rose will end up being the best Point-Guard. I'll take him over Lebron for his heart alone. Thats the impression I got watching him & Noah fighting Cavs tooth & nails despite being over-matched.

I can't ever seeing Lebron sharing the spotlight with anyone. Will his ego allow him to step back, and deffer. There is only One Ball after all.

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I personally think D-Rose will end up being the best Point-Guard. I'll take him over Lebron for his heart alone. Thats the impression I got watching him & Noah fighting Cavs tooth & nails despite being over-matched.

I can't ever seeing Lebron sharing the spotlight with anyone. Will his ego allow him to step back, and deffer. There is only One Ball after all.

He seemed okay sharing the ball in the Olympics, I don't think that'll be too much of an issue. His ego didn't prevent him from passing in cleveland, he did average 8 assists after all...
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I think there will be a transition year or two but it will end up working. The 08 Celtics were special.

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I personally think D-Rose will end up being the best Point-Guard. I'll take him over Lebron for his heart alone. Thats the impression I got watching him & Noah fighting Cavs tooth & nails despite being over-matched.

I can't ever seeing Lebron sharing the spotlight with anyone. Will his ego allow him to step back, and deffer. There is only One Ball after all.

He seemed okay sharing the ball in the Olympics, I don't think that'll be too much of an issue. His ego didn't prevent him from passing in cleveland, he did average 8 assists after all...

The same guy who takes 30shots in an all-star game. Please! For it to work, Lebron will have to cut his shots down drastically. Bosh & Rose won't be pushovers. Will he be fine taking less shots & sharing the spotlight with his equals. I can't see it happening or working for that matter

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I personally think D-Rose will end up being the best Point-Guard. I'll take him over Lebron for his heart alone. Thats the impression I got watching him & Noah fighting Cavs tooth & nails despite being over-matched.

I can't ever seeing Lebron sharing the spotlight with anyone. Will his ego allow him to step back, and deffer. There is only One Ball after all.

He seemed okay sharing the ball in the Olympics, I don't think that'll be too much of an issue. His ego didn't prevent him from passing in cleveland, he did average 8 assists after all...

The same guy who takes 30shots in an all-star game. Please! For it to work, Lebron will have to cut his shots down drastically. Bosh & Rose won't be pushovers. Will he be fine taking less shots & sharing the spotlight with his equals. I can't see it happening or working for that matter

Views like this are just so biased. 

LeBron has never taken 30 shots in the All-Star game.  But how many shots should the player who plays the most minutes and is arguably the teams best offensive weapon take in game where the score can be anywhere from 130-150?   LeBron would have no problem sharing the ball.  If he did, he would have led the NBA scoring for the last 5 years straight.

Sure LeBron has consistently put up a little over 20 shots per game in the All-Star game, but hey Larry Bird put up just under 20 for like 4 consecutive years in the All-Star game.  Garnett put up 24 shots in an All-Star game (2 more than LeBron has ever put up) and we all know how those guys hate sharing the ball  ::)  Did Jordan have a problem sharing the ball with Pippen, cuz you know he put up more All-Star game shots than LeBron.


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what if some of the rumors are true about "whoever lands Chris Paul lands LeBron James"...   Which teams turns down D Rose for Chris Paul?  Hornets need cap space... Bulls theoretically need Chris Paul

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what if some of the rumors are true about "whoever lands Chris Paul lands LeBron James"...   Which teams turns down D Rose for Chris Paul?  Hornets need cap space... Bulls theoretically need Chris Paul
The Hornets do, without even thinking about it.

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I can see spacing as a huge problem. The Bulls best 3 pt threat, the guy that extends the D, and  gives space to teammates is....???

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I can see spacing as a huge problem. The Bulls best 3 pt threat, the guy that extends the D, and  gives space to teammates is....???

Ray Allen?  Yes, they still need to find a way to fill that hole.  However, they would have a heck of a headstart over everyone else, and still have a nice asset in Deng to use to get that last piece.

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I can see spacing as a huge problem. The Bulls best 3 pt threat, the guy that extends the D, and  gives space to teammates is....???

Ray Allen?  Yes, they still need to find a way to fill that hole.  However, they would have a heck of a headstart over everyone else, and still have a nice asset in Deng to use to get that last piece.

It is too bad that they unloaded Hinrich instead of Deng, though; Kirk would have been a perfect fit.  Can play the 2, can handle the ball, can shoot it, scrappy defensive player.  I like Deng.  But he's pretty definitely a 3, and a little less complementary to LeBron.

Couldn't they (theoretically) do a S&T with the Wizard, if Washington wanted Deng they could absorb his contract (since they're under the cap) and send a signed Mike Miller back in return.  Think their only real issue would be building a bench. 

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I know Rose is a huge upgrade over Mo Williams, but it would be interesting to see Lebron end up on another team with a potentially offensively-challenged head coach (no disrespect to Thibs)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed to see Lebron end up on a team with a more established no nonsense coach, such as a Larry Brown, that will run the offense that the coach has designed.

I just want to see how much of this Lebron 5 on 1 stuff in the playoffs had to do with Mike Brown and how much of it had to do with Lebrons ego.
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