Idea: DeSagana Diop

[winsomme]

I was just thinking about how much I would like to land Ty Thomas from Charlotte and decided to go look at their roster/salary situation. CHA is really interesting because they actually might be the only team with potential depth (and interesting prospects) at the PF/C position.

Tyson Chandler (did he opt out?)
Boris Diaw
Nazr Mohammed
DeSagana Diop
Ty Thomas (Restricted)
Alexis Ajinca


I'd actually be interested in Tyson, TT most, but the name that I hadn't been thinking about is DeSagana Diop. He has essentially three years left, so CHA could easily be looking to unload his contract. Plus, they really don't need him.

For the Cs, Diop would provide shot blocking and be a bridge back to Perk.

Could we use Sheed's contract to land him in trade? That would free up the MLE to get a wing.

[Chris]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

[winsomme]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

I don't think I'd call it horrendous. I mean, it's essentially the end of an MLE deal for three years.

The thing is, if we are looking to keep our own MLE for a wing (because the wing FAs are better), we are going to have to take a player with a less than ideal contract to optimize Sheed's retiring contract.

and I think defending the paint is more important for a big that we might pick up than pick and pop....that's why Diop in my mind would be better than Brad Miller.

Plus, it leaves us with the MLE.

[hubert.the.potato]

You're talking about getting a guy that's 28 years old, averaging 2 point,4 rebounds and a fourth of a block per 10 minutes a game?As a starter? For a contender? HE sucked on Charlotte,he'll be worse on the Celtics.
You know a guy sucks when Bill Simmons of all people makes fun of him

[winsomme]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

As for Chandler, I would love to grab him. He can defend the rim and would have the back door alley-oop with Rondo all day. I'd rather package Bradley with Sheed to get him though because losing Perk still leaves us very thin up front.

[winsomme]

You're talking about getting a guy that's 28 years old, averaging 2 point,4 rebounds and a fourth of a block per 10 minutes a game?As a starter? For a contender? HE sucked on Charlotte,he'll be worse on the Celtics.
You know a guy sucks when Bill Simmons of all people makes fun of him

Well, he hasn't played that much and is completely not needed on CHA. I think we could essentially get him for just Sheed's contract which means we keep Bradley and our MLE.

[Chris]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

I don't think I'd call it horrendous. I mean, it's essentially the end of an MLE deal for three years.

The thing is, if we are looking to keep our own MLE for a wing (because the wing FAs are better), we are going to have to take a player with a less than ideal contract to optimize Sheed's retiring contract.

and I think defending the paint is more important for a big that we might pick up than pick and pop....that's why Diop in my mind would be better than Brad Miller.

Plus, it leaves us with the MLE.

It's terrible for a guy who averaged 2.1 points an 3.8 rebounds in his career (1.2 and 2.4 last season).  The guy is just a really bad player.  He had a decent run in Dallas for about half a season, and was dramatically overpaid because of it.  

The C's have potentially two very valuable trade chips in Perk and Sheed's contract.  If they cannot do better than Diop's terrible contract, then Danny needs to quit.  

[Chris]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

As for Chandler, I would love to grab him. He can defend the rim and would have the back door alley-oop with Rondo all day. I'd rather package Bradley with Sheed to get him though because losing Perk still leaves us very thin up front.

Why Bradley?

I just threw Perk in there, because Chandler would essentially be replacing him, and since they are looking to dump Chandler's salary, they would likely give the C's another asset in return. 

But I would venture to guess that we could set up a sign and trade with someone like Tony Allen or Daniels, or Scal, or anyone else to even out salaries, and basically trade Sheed straight up for Chandler, and they will thank us for the saved cash.

[Who]

Too bad a contract for the talent on offer. Not interested.

[winsomme]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

I don't think I'd call it horrendous. I mean, it's essentially the end of an MLE deal for three years.

The thing is, if we are looking to keep our own MLE for a wing (because the wing FAs are better), we are going to have to take a player with a less than ideal contract to optimize Sheed's retiring contract.

and I think defending the paint is more important for a big that we might pick up than pick and pop....that's why Diop in my mind would be better than Brad Miller.

Plus, it leaves us with the MLE.

It's terrible for a guy who averaged 2.1 points an 3.8 rebounds in his career (1.2 and 2.4 last season).  The guy is just a really bad player.  He had a decent run in Dallas for about half a season, and was dramatically overpaid because of it.  

The C's have potentially two very valuable trade chips in Perk and Sheed's contract.  If they cannot do better than Diop's terrible contract, then Danny needs to quit.  

but I don't like trading Perk right now.

1) with Sheed retiring, you're still leaving yourself thin in the post.

2) Perk's value is probably at a low point due to the fact that he's now coming back from potentially major surgery.

I think at this point you need to stick with Perk and use Sheed, Sheed + Bradley, or the MLE to get the best big you can get and then hope Perk comes back toward the end of the season.

[Chris]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

I don't think I'd call it horrendous. I mean, it's essentially the end of an MLE deal for three years.

The thing is, if we are looking to keep our own MLE for a wing (because the wing FAs are better), we are going to have to take a player with a less than ideal contract to optimize Sheed's retiring contract.

and I think defending the paint is more important for a big that we might pick up than pick and pop....that's why Diop in my mind would be better than Brad Miller.

Plus, it leaves us with the MLE.

It's terrible for a guy who averaged 2.1 points an 3.8 rebounds in his career (1.2 and 2.4 last season).  The guy is just a really bad player.  He had a decent run in Dallas for about half a season, and was dramatically overpaid because of it.  

The C's have potentially two very valuable trade chips in Perk and Sheed's contract.  If they cannot do better than Diop's terrible contract, then Danny needs to quit.  

but I don't like trading Perk right now.

1) with Sheed retiring, you're still leaving yourself thin in the post.

2) Perk's value is probably at a low point due to the fact that he's now coming back from potentially major surgery.

I think at this point you need to stick with Perk and use Sheed, Sheed + Bradley, or the MLE to get the best big you can get and then hope Perk comes back toward the end of the season.

That's fine.  But Sheed, all by himself (if his contract is still on the books) will be able to net you someone significantly better than Diop.

[winsomme]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

As for Chandler, I would love to grab him. He can defend the rim and would have the back door alley-oop with Rondo all day. I'd rather package Bradley with Sheed to get him though because losing Perk still leaves us very thin up front.

Why Bradley?

I just threw Perk in there, because Chandler would essentially be replacing him, and since they are looking to dump Chandler's salary, they would likely give the C's another asset in return. 

But I would venture to guess that we could set up a sign and trade with someone like Tony Allen or Daniels, or Scal, or anyone else to even out salaries, and basically trade Sheed straight up for Chandler, and they will thank us for the saved cash.

Heck, I'd do Sheed for Chandler 7 days a week and twice on Sunday....I just don't think Jordan would go for that. I mean, he's there starting center, no?

as for adding Perk, I don't like it because it still leaves us very thin up front. I'd add Bradley before I'd add Perk.

[winsomme]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

I don't think I'd call it horrendous. I mean, it's essentially the end of an MLE deal for three years.

The thing is, if we are looking to keep our own MLE for a wing (because the wing FAs are better), we are going to have to take a player with a less than ideal contract to optimize Sheed's retiring contract.

and I think defending the paint is more important for a big that we might pick up than pick and pop....that's why Diop in my mind would be better than Brad Miller.

Plus, it leaves us with the MLE.

It's terrible for a guy who averaged 2.1 points an 3.8 rebounds in his career (1.2 and 2.4 last season).  The guy is just a really bad player.  He had a decent run in Dallas for about half a season, and was dramatically overpaid because of it.  

The C's have potentially two very valuable trade chips in Perk and Sheed's contract.  If they cannot do better than Diop's terrible contract, then Danny needs to quit.  

but I don't like trading Perk right now.

1) with Sheed retiring, you're still leaving yourself thin in the post.

2) Perk's value is probably at a low point due to the fact that he's now coming back from potentially major surgery.

I think at this point you need to stick with Perk and use Sheed, Sheed + Bradley, or the MLE to get the best big you can get and then hope Perk comes back toward the end of the season.

That's fine.  But Sheed, all by himself (if his contract is still on the books) will be able to net you someone significantly better than Diop.

I'm all ears because trading Sheed all by himself is the ideal situation. But it needs to be a guy with a relatively bad contract or a team rushing to dump salary to get in on the FA sweepstakes.....why else would Sheed's contract be appealing?

So, who are these bigs on teams looking for a pure salary dump? CHA seems like one of the only ones....maybe Sactown? I don't know...there's not many.

I hope one pops up soon because in a couple of days we could be looking at Brad Miller as the guy.

[Chris]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

As for Chandler, I would love to grab him. He can defend the rim and would have the back door alley-oop with Rondo all day. I'd rather package Bradley with Sheed to get him though because losing Perk still leaves us very thin up front.

Why Bradley?

I just threw Perk in there, because Chandler would essentially be replacing him, and since they are looking to dump Chandler's salary, they would likely give the C's another asset in return. 

But I would venture to guess that we could set up a sign and trade with someone like Tony Allen or Daniels, or Scal, or anyone else to even out salaries, and basically trade Sheed straight up for Chandler, and they will thank us for the saved cash.

Heck, I'd do Sheed for Chandler 7 days a week and twice on Sunday....I just don't think Jordan would go for that. I mean, he's there starting center, no?

as for adding Perk, I don't like it because it still leaves us very thin up front. I'd add Bradley before I'd add Perk.

He wasn't last year.  Nazr Mohammed was their starter.  Chandler was battling injuries, but also was in Brown's doghouse for much of the year.  

I think they would absolutely jump at the opportunity to save millions of dollars this season by getting rid of Chandlers deal.  There is no way the C's would have to include anyone like Bradley to get it done.

[winsomme]

He has a horrendous contract, so I really hope it would not come down to that. 

I think Chandler (and maybe a pick) for Sheed and Perk would make the most sense with Charlotte, or Sheed straight up for Mohammed.  But taking on Diop's contract would be a tough pill to swallow for a very mediocre big man.

As for Chandler, I would love to grab him. He can defend the rim and would have the back door alley-oop with Rondo all day. I'd rather package Bradley with Sheed to get him though because losing Perk still leaves us very thin up front.

Why Bradley?

I just threw Perk in there, because Chandler would essentially be replacing him, and since they are looking to dump Chandler's salary, they would likely give the C's another asset in return. 

But I would venture to guess that we could set up a sign and trade with someone like Tony Allen or Daniels, or Scal, or anyone else to even out salaries, and basically trade Sheed straight up for Chandler, and they will thank us for the saved cash.

Heck, I'd do Sheed for Chandler 7 days a week and twice on Sunday....I just don't think Jordan would go for that. I mean, he's there starting center, no?

as for adding Perk, I don't like it because it still leaves us very thin up front. I'd add Bradley before I'd add Perk.

He wasn't last year.  Nazr Mohammed was their starter.  Chandler was battling injuries, but also was in Brown's doghouse for much of the year.  

I think they would absolutely jump at the opportunity to save millions of dollars this season by getting rid of Chandlers deal.  There is no way the C's would have to include anyone like Bradley to get it done.

Tyson, if he doesn't opt out, is at worst an expiring contract. I'm not sure he is a pure salary dump guy.

plus, he really, in terms of talent, is their starting center. he did struggle with injury and still started as much as Nazr.

I'd be really surprised if CHA is going into the season planning on Nazr as their starting center.