Trade for Wright, Randolph, or Thompson

[PosImpos]

In the draft last night, the Kings and the Warriors both selected big men who figure to get significant minutes next season.  This leaves both teams with a major log jam in the front court.  The Kings especially will have to split time between Dalembert, Landry, Cousins, and Thompson.  I'm guessing Thompson is the odd man out.  In Golden State, there won't be time for Wright, Randolph, Biedrins, and Udoh.

Both teams are fairly strapped for cash.  The Celtics should do whatever they can to get one of those guys.  All three players have a good deal of potential and have shown promise.  Furthermore, they all have good size and length for PF and perhaps C.  Size and length we desperately need.

[Who]

I expect both teams to hold onto their players.

Thompson is a combo big who can play both big man positions and can complement both Carl Landry (disappointing since joining Sacramento) + DeMarcus Cousins. Meanwhile, Anthony Randolph is still one of the Warriors top two players/prospects along with Steph Curry. They also feel that Randolph can play the 3, 4 and 5 and that the 5 might be his best position long term (Nellie's words).

It would take a major trade package, good young talent, to pry either of these players away from either of those teams.

[PosImpos]

I expect both teams to hold onto their players.

Thompson is a combo big who can play both big man positions and can complement both Carl Landry (disappointing since joining Sacramento) + DeMarcus Cousins. Meanwhile, Anthony Randolph is still one of the Warriors top two players/prospects along with Steph Curry. They also feel that Randolph can play the 3, 4 and 5 and that the 5 might be his best position long term (Nellie's words).

It would take a major trade package, good young talent, to pry either of these players away from either of those teams.

Between Cousins, Dalembert, and Landry, you think there will be more than 10-15 minutes left each game for Jason Thompson?  Not to mention Omri Casspi, who often gets minutes at the 4?

On the Warriors, between Randolph, Wright, Udoh, and Biedrins, I imagine one of those has to be an odd man out as well.  Randolph is far too thin to play C but doesn't have the shooting ability to play SF.  The Warriors also have Ronny Turiaf still on contract, I believe.

I would tend to agree with you that the teams would keep their players if it weren't for the fact that the Kings are bleeding money and the Warriors are desperate to shed salary in order to make the team attractive to buyers.

Surely prying one of their excess young bigs off of them in order to help them save money and free up more minutes for their new projects is not all that unreasonable.  We may have to take on an additional contract while doing so, but as long as it is not too burdensome (e.g. Monta Ellis), it would be a really good idea.

The Celtics desperately need a young player with potential, size, and athleticism.  I think trading with the Kings or the Warriors is the best opportunity for acquiring such a player given what the Celtics have to trade.

[winsomme]

In the draft last night, the Kings and the Warriors both selected big men who figure to get significant minutes next season.  This leaves both teams with a major log jam in the front court.  The Kings especially will have to split time between Dalembert, Landry, Cousins, and Thompson.  I'm guessing Thompson is the odd man out.  In Golden State, there won't be time for Wright, Randolph, Biedrins, and Udoh.

Both teams are fairly strapped for cash.  The Celtics should do whatever they can to get one of those guys.  All three players have a good deal of potential and have shown promise.  Furthermore, they all have good size and length for PF and perhaps C.  Size and length we desperately need.

I was just thinking about SAC. They also have Hawes, right?  They could totally unload Thompson, but I would imagine we would have to take salary to get him....

what Sheed and Bradley for Thompson and Nocioni?

[winsomme]

whoa just saw that the Dalembert deal was for Hawes and Nocioni.....

hmm, that looks like something we should have done.

[PosImpos]

whoa just saw that the Dalembert deal was for Hawes and Nocioni.....

hmm, that looks like something we should have done.

Which way do you mean?  I'd be totally fine with taking on Dalembert for the last year of his contract.  He rebounds and blocks shots better than anybody on our team.  Aside from one on one post defense, he's better than Perk (and bigger).  

As for Hawes and Nocioni...nooo thank you.

Anyway, it's all a moot point since I'm sure Dalembert is staying in Sacramento.  I'm convinced Thompson could be had for a reasonable price though.  They just don't need him, and for a team with money issues an unnecessary player is not an affordable luxury.

[paintitgreen]

whoa just saw that the Dalembert deal was for Hawes and Nocioni.....

hmm, that looks like something we should have done.

What should we have done? And who should we have given up to do it?

I think it's worth a shot to try to get any of the guys you mentioned. Wright I think could be had for nothing - he didn't even play a minute last year. Randolph is the one I want, but I think you do have to give them something to get him. And I just don't know if Davis is enough to get it done. Maybe if you take on a salary like Ellis or Biedrins, but then they have less desire to unload a big man. And I don't think we could pull together the money to take those contracts. Maybe if we threw them Sheed's contract, Davis and they wanted Nate in a sign and trade, but I doubt anything could come together.

Which sucks, because the Wright/Randolph combo is exactly what I'd like to get.

[Change]

Jason Thompson is a stud. He is legit PF, who can be molded into KG-lite. Out of all the names, This would be an absolute dream.

Sacramento did just draft 2 bigs (DeMarcus Cousins & Hassan Whiteside) And received Samuel Dalembert in a trade. You gotta think Jason could be had. He'd be the ideal backup PF.

[PosImpos]

Jason Thompson is a stud. He is legit PF, who can be molded into KG-lite. All of all the names, This would be an absolute dream.

Sacramento did just draft 2 bigs (DeMarcus Cousins & Hassan Whiteside) And received Samuel Dalembert in a trade. You gotta think Jason could be had. He'd be the ideal backup PF.

I forgot about Whiteside.  Yet another big project on their roster.  Jason is totally extraneous there.  I'd be amazed if he's not available for a reasonable price, and if we can save the Kings some money (say, by taking on Francisco Garcia's contract) I think they'd go for it.

[Change]

Jason Thompson is a stud. He is legit PF, who can be molded into KG-lite. All of all the names, This would be an absolute dream.

Sacramento did just draft 2 bigs (DeMarcus Cousins & Hassan Whiteside) And received Samuel Dalembert in a trade. You gotta think Jason could be had. He'd be the ideal backup PF.

I forgot about Whiteside.  Yet another big project on their roster.  Jason is totally extraneous there.  I'd be amazed if he's not available for a reasonable price, and if we can save the Kings some money (say, by taking on Francisco Garcia's contract) I think they'd go for it.

Lets make a deal Sac-town. One trade with Sacramento could fix bench woes.

[KungPoweChicken]

I wouldn't touch Wright. The kid has been a bust since day one. Randolph and Thompson, on the other hand, I would trade for. But I doubt they would be available (for what we have anyway).

[PosImpos]

Jason Thompson is a stud. He is legit PF, who can be molded into KG-lite. All of all the names, This would be an absolute dream.

Sacramento did just draft 2 bigs (DeMarcus Cousins & Hassan Whiteside) And received Samuel Dalembert in a trade. You gotta think Jason could be had. He'd be the ideal backup PF.

I forgot about Whiteside.  Yet another big project on their roster.  Jason is totally extraneous there.  I'd be amazed if he's not available for a reasonable price, and if we can save the Kings some money (say, by taking on Francisco Garcia's contract) I think they'd go for it.

Lets make a deal Sac-town. One trade with Sacramento could fix bench woes.

Have to say I'd be more than happy with Jason Thompson and Francisco Garcia coming off our bench, especially since we'd still have the MLE to work with.

[Change]

Jason Thompson is a stud. He is legit PF, who can be molded into KG-lite. All of all the names, This would be an absolute dream.

Sacramento did just draft 2 bigs (DeMarcus Cousins & Hassan Whiteside) And received Samuel Dalembert in a trade. You gotta think Jason could be had. He'd be the ideal backup PF.

I forgot about Whiteside.  Yet another big project on their roster.  Jason is totally extraneous there.  I'd be amazed if he's not available for a reasonable price, and if we can save the Kings some money (say, by taking on Francisco Garcia's contract) I think they'd go for it.

Lets make a deal Sac-town. One trade with Sacramento could fix bench woes.

Have to say I'd be more than happy with Jason Thompson and Francisco Garcia coming off our bench, especially since we'd still have the MLE to work with.

Exaclty, Danny could use MLE for a Center hopefully Darko. A solid 4 man big rotation. Who knows how well Perk recovers

Darko/Baby
KG/Thompson
Pierce/Garcia or Mike Miller
Ray/TA
Rondo/Avery

Still would like Mike Miller, Don't trust Francisco Garcia. Maybe Ainge can work his magic here.

[JBcat]

I'm not so sure Sacramento needs to cut any more salary after the Martin trade last year their recent one for Dalembert.   Not including their draft picks their payroll is around 35 million which is pretty low. 

I also don't really believe Dalembert is part of their long term plans.   He is in the last year of his contract and wouldn't be surprised if he is bought out at some point.   I think that trade was mostly a salary dump and it could be their last one.

They now have a nice relatively cheap nucleus.   Cousins and Thompson at your 5 and 4 spot and Landry backing them up.   Whiteside is a project and by no means a sure thing so with that and the uncertain status of Dalembert being there a while I think they need to keep Thompson. 

GS's payroll is at least 20 mil higher and might be more desperate to shed salary.  I'll just say I would love to see Randolph in green. 

[FrDrake]

I would be surprised if Thompson were available, but Sactown certainly has revamped their big men in a hurry so you never know.

Here's a trade that works:

Garcia ($5.8 mil) + Thompson ($2 mil) = Sheed ($5.8 mil) + Big Baby ($3 mil)

If Sacramento wants to save money they might think about it.