After losing a heartbreaking game 7 due mostly to rebounding...

[Greenbean]

Yeah DA dropped the ball before these guys even ink deals never mind actually play in a game .

I always reserve judgement on draft picks until oh I dont know, I see what they can do on the court.

Also, we can address rebounding in many other ways.

I am glad they didnt reach to get size because there wasnt much there deep in this draft. I DO hate Harangody, but I feel that Bradley has a legit shot at cracking the rotation this year. Luke wont make the team most likely but you dont expect the 52nd pick to do so anyway.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Size has nothing to do with rebounding. The argument can be made that "undersized" Big Baby was our best offensive rebounder. Also the best rebounder in the game, Dennis Rodman, was 6'7". Charles Barkley who is somewhere around 6'4" was a decent rebounder too. These may be exceptions to the rule and I get the point you are trying to make, however size doesn't necessarily coincide with rebounding skills.

BBd is hardly that good of a rebounder at all. True, he had a "few" good games, but don't go thinking HIS name is up there with rodman, did you see bbd on the league leading list, next to marcus camby or d howard, no, because it wasn't even close. Sheldon is actually the better rebounder on this team, but that fool scal got all his minutes. Actually, when we played sheldon, bbd played better and harder, because he saw a chance his minutes were going to sheldon. The most consistant thing bbd did, or had done to him, was have his shot blocked. I hope danny finds a way to get another center or two and another 6'10" forward. If sheldon got scals minutes, we would have had a better chance in the playoffs, sheldon is a real rebounder, in the leon powe mold. patrick obryant would have helped big time, but doc couldn't see to play him either. So, we lost to a team with big men, from rebounds. Like P Riley said, "no rebounds, no championship!".

[ballin]

How about we lost game 7 because Perk was injured and KG didn't rebound? Rebounding wasn't an issue in the play-offs until game 7. We drafted the best player available GET OVER IT!!!

That is just a straight up ignorant comment (note to moderators, that's not a personal attack, I actually mean that his statement lacks awareness). Did you not watch the entire finals? The team with the most rebounds won every game. The games we lost, we got out-rebounded HORRIBLY. And, no, rebounding WAS an issue throughout the whole of the playoffs, except against Miami who happens to be a poor rebounding team.

[BballTim]

How about we lost game 7 because Perk was injured and KG didn't rebound? Rebounding wasn't an issue in the play-offs until game 7. We drafted the best player available GET OVER IT!!!

That is just a straight up ignorant comment (note to moderators, that's not a personal attack, I actually mean that his statement lacks awareness). Did you not watch the entire finals? The team with the most rebounds won every game. The games we lost, we got out-rebounded HORRIBLY. And, no, rebounding WAS an issue throughout the whole of the playoffs, except against Miami who happens to be a poor rebounding team.

  We outrebounded Cleveland (the best rebounding team in the league), we pretty much held our own vs Orlando (another top 5 rebounding team) and we outrebounded LA in 3 out of 5 games before Perk was injured. I don't think saying that rebounding wasn't a huge issue is that ignorant.

[snively]

Does the OP realize that Luke Harangody was one of the best rebounders in college for his sophomore and junior season, and still a darn good one when he started jacking 3s as a senior? 

I think he projects to be a better rebounder than Baby.

[dooyork]

Yeah!  Come on Danny, you idiot!  It's like, we need a big man who will be able to neutralize Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol, especially now that Perk is hurt.  So hows come you didn't pick up that kinda player with the 52nd pick of the draft? 

The Cs should fire Danny and hire a commenter from Celticsblog to be the GM, probly like either me or the OP in this thread, becos we are obviously much more attuned to the team's needs than he is, and that's why we are able to come up with good ideas like the smart one I just thought of, about how we should have drafted a dominant center with #52.

[bbd24]

We draft two undersized players. Wow. Am I supposed to be happy about this somehow? Particularly with Harangody, a 6'7 PF??

And, of course, we drafted basically a worse version of Rondo. Not sure how that makes any sense.

DA kinda dropped the ball on this one.

I remember when DA supposedly dropped the ball on Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo too.  Somehow, nobody's saying that anymore.  I think the same will ring true once again.  Bradley is great, great value at #19.

[Celtic#9]

Yeah!  Come on Danny, you idiot!  It's like, we need a big man who will be able to neutralize Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol, especially now that Perk is hurt.  So hows come you didn't pick up that kinda player with the 52nd pick of the draft? 

The Cs should fire Danny and hire a commenter from Celticsblog to be the GM, probly like either me or the OP in this thread, becos we are obviously much more attuned to the team's needs than he is, and that's why we are able to come up with good ideas like the smart one I just thought of, about how we should have drafted a dominant center with #52.

Yeah I know. So sad to see Danny not draft the most dominant defensive big man that can contribute immediately with the 19th and the 52nd pick. Lol good point. tp

[Levis107]

I hate how everyone thinks the Celtics lost because of rebounding. I mean, it factored in, but the majority of the Lakers' offensive rebounds came in the first half and we still had a 13 point lead late in the 3rd.  We lost because we couldn't keep the Lakers off the foul line in the 4th quarter (21 FTs), whether it was legitimate or not.

[Witch-King]

I hate how everyone thinks the Celtics lost because of rebounding. I mean, it factored in, but the majority of the Lakers' offensive rebounds came in the first half and we still had a 13 point lead late in the 3rd.  We lost because we couldn't keep the Lakers off the foul line in the 4th quarter (21 FTs), whether it was legitimate or not.

Oh, I get it. We should have instead just let Pau Gasol prance into the paint like one of those sissy girls you might find at a junior beauty pageant and watch him take as many un-contested shots as he wants, making sure to grab the board if he were ever to miss, otherwise we'd still have been out-rebounded in the second half...

Half of the NBA refs were locked out at the beginning of this season for gambling, Sherlock...

[Levis107]

I hate how everyone thinks the Celtics lost because of rebounding. I mean, it factored in, but the majority of the Lakers' offensive rebounds came in the first half and we still had a 13 point lead late in the 3rd.  We lost because we couldn't keep the Lakers off the foul line in the 4th quarter (21 FTs), whether it was legitimate or not.

Oh, I get it. We should have instead just let Pau Gasol prance into the paint like one of those sissy girls you might find at a junior beauty pageant and watch him take as many un-contested shots as he wants, making sure to grab the board if he were ever to miss, otherwise we'd still have been out-rebounded in the second half...

Half of the NBA refs were locked out at the beginning of this season for gambling, Sherlock...

You can't deny the officiating changed and swung the game in the 4th quarter.  21 FTs is a staggering number for a 4th quarter in a Game 7

[wahz]

I realize trying to work through this with some folks in a logical way might be ignored but here is a shot at it, similar to what others here have done:

1.Lets pretend we sign Brad Miller but don't use the full mle.
2.Lets say we don't know enough to factor in Sheeds contract or PP's contract change but lets say we resign Ray and several factors allow a 2nde add...bear with me.
3. Lets say we resign TA.
4. Lets say Avery Bradley is good and spells Rajon and also plays the two guard some.
5. Lets say we don't sign Nate, as he seems redundant now, but we do sign a good shooting wing who almost all of us think is pretty good and who can spell Ray...lets call this guy "X."
Thats a tough one but lets say we get it done either through Vet minimum, cap space from PP, Sheeds contract,mle, trade or what have you. Its a reach...maybe

Eventually, towards the playoffs, the team looks like:
Perk(28), Miller(20)
KG(28), Baby(20)
PP(30), TA(18)
Ray(30), X(14)
Rajon(36, Bradley(16)

so that looks solid to me. Granted we are missing Sideshow Bob, but perhaps nothing else.

[jdub1660]

I like the idea of bringing in athleticism along with the rebounding(b/c having good hops helps with getting rebounds, ask Rondo)

This is where we could sign a player like Stromile Swift. He can catch oops from Rondo, swat shots, and occasionally hit the PJ Brown 10-15 footer. He should come cheap, so then we could use Sheed's contract to get a SG/SF like Morrow

Plus we have Tony, Marquis and Nate to use in Sign/Trades right?

[gar]

Hate TA at SF worse idea DA ever had. Rather play him at SG w/ Bradley for a quick, tough defending lineup. We need a legit Wing with size and rebounding.