Michael Beasley Says NBA, Not NFL, Is No Fun League (available in a salary dump)

[Andy Jick]

Mock me all you want, but this guy has "run from me like the plague" written all over him.  He's got a mental problem and an attitude problem and a drive problem.

So yeah, I can't stand the guy.  He represents all that is wrong with professional athletes.

I don't mock people.

I correct them when they are wrong.

And you, sir, are wrong.

Thanks, Red...  Appreciate your authoritative final word on this. 

[GreenFaith1819]

I say get him (Michael Beasley), if we can..if he can be had for next to nothing - why not?

As far as his Alleged "Mental" issues - I think this is a Non - Issue. The Twitter Flap? Just a young man reaching out for a little help.

I think most of us have been at that point in our lives, one way or the the other.

As I read the thread, one poster made mention of why would we bring him onboard - KG is no pyschiatrist - or something to that nature. I think that is a valid concern from that poster.

But I think Beaseley's issue is just needing an environment change.

As far as Wade and his team needing more out of him defensively? Well, he wasn't a Defensive Stopper in College, was he? He only played one year there? I think that in his case, he is having to learn Defense for the first time in his Basketball life, now - and under maybe the worst circumstances.

To be honest, I was rather concerned about Beaseley during our series with MIA - the man torched us in one game during the regular season.....he hit like 12-16 pts consecutively..he hit jumpers, drove to the basket...no one could stop him.

To be fair to KG, though - that particular game was in November 09, when KG was at about 70%.

Overall, I don't see Beaseley as bringing down the Boston Franchise if we could get him on the cheap. Like another poster here stated - pair him with our veteran team...don't place a lot of pressure on him (like he has in MIA)...and tell him that he has the tools to be a Great Defensive player - he just needs to work at it. The man can obviously score - from anywhere.

Some here could say that "Well, he's making millions - why is he under pressure?" Well, money can't buy success...and I think MIA is a team in somewhat of a transition.

Very Good Discussion, though!

[Rondo_is_better]

Mock me all you want, but this guy has "run from me like the plague" written all over him.  He's got a mental problem and an attitude problem and a drive problem.

So yeah, I can't stand the guy.  He represents all that is wrong with professional athletes.

I don't mock people.

I correct them when they are wrong.

And you, sir, are wrong.

Coach Bo I love all your posts but this one man I dont know. I think Jick has a point man Beasley is a basket case. KG can't play shrink man. Danny doesn't have time to play shrink. Oh I GOT AN IDEA! Lets hire Coach Bo to be a shrink for Mike Beasley?

HE KNOWS HIM. For the love of God.

[Andy Jick]

Mock me all you want, but this guy has "run from me like the plague" written all over him.  He's got a mental problem and an attitude problem and a drive problem.

So yeah, I can't stand the guy.  He represents all that is wrong with professional athletes.

I don't mock people.

I correct them when they are wrong.

And you, sir, are wrong.

Coach Bo I love all your posts but this one man I dont know. I think Jick has a point man Beasley is a basket case. KG can't play shrink man. Danny doesn't have time to play shrink. Oh I GOT AN IDEA! Lets hire Coach Bo to be a shrink for Mike Beasley?

HE KNOWS HIM. For the love of God.

The internet is a lovely thing...

[boom]

CoachBo, to be honest, I dont care if you know a player. We can only presume or estimate on what abilities he has on and off the court on what we've seen on TV and through the media for the past few years relating the the game of basketball. Nothing indicates that he is _not_ a headcase. You are not Beasley. I am not Beasley. You can sit here and say he has the drive and determination to succeed all you want, but nothing I've seen shows me that. Dont blame the environment of South Beach. I dont want excuses. That's all there is to it. Your friendship is clouding your judgment.

[BballTim]

  I don't know Beasley, but I don't see the downside. He's 21, a former top pick, and puts up decent numbers. We could (if we can trade Sheed's contract), get him basically for free. We could dump him at the end of the year or we could keep him for another year and then decide. Sounds like a chance worth taking. If he works out we have another young piece. If not, we have a tradeable contract.

  If the plan is to reload on the fly then we'd need to take a chance like this and have it work out.

[FallGuy]

  I don't know Beasley, but I don't see the downside. He's 21, a former top pick, and puts up decent numbers. We could (of we can trade Sheed's contract), get him basically for free. We could dump him at the end of the year or we could keep him for another year and then decide. Sounds like a chance worth taking. If he works out we have another young piece. If not, we have a tradeable contract.

  If the plan is to reload on the fly then we'd need to take a chance like this and have it work out.

Pretty much agree with everything you say here.

I may be wrong about this but I'm not sure how much focus Miami even gives Beasley. He only played 29.9 minutes per game this season (and managed to pull down 6.4 boards in that time). And how many plays are they really running for him? I wonder, I wonder...

One thing we know for sure - Danny is not scared of head cases. Especially with the strong Celtics team culture.

But I still haven't seen them indicate any interest in Beasley, directly or through some unnamed source.  It's entirely possible they're not interested at all.

[snively]

  I don't know Beasley, but I don't see the downside. He's 21, a former top pick, and puts up decent numbers. We could (if we can trade Sheed's contract), get him basically for free. We could dump him at the end of the year or we could keep him for another year and then decide. Sounds like a chance worth taking. If he works out we have another young piece. If not, we have a tradeable contract.

  If the plan is to reload on the fly then we'd need to take a chance like this and have it work out.

Completely agree.  Pretty much all reward/no risk. 

[celticsclay]

I would love it if we could get Beasley for free, but is there any proof they would trade him for Wallace's contract, BBD and a first rounder even? I kind of don't think the Heat would do that trade. We all get carried away thinking you can get players for free but it is always an older player with a big contract that goes in salary dumps. The same can be said for all these people thinking you can get monta ellis for nothing. Can someone think of some times in recent nba history where a 22 year old has been traded in this kind of situation?

[More Banners]

  I don't know Beasley, but I don't see the downside. He's 21, a former top pick, and puts up decent numbers. We could (if we can trade Sheed's contract), get him basically for free. We could dump him at the end of the year or we could keep him for another year and then decide. Sounds like a chance worth taking. If he works out we have another young piece. If not, we have a tradeable contract.

  If the plan is to reload on the fly then we'd need to take a chance like this and have it work out.

Well earned TP.

[Tai]

I would love it if we could get Beasley for free, but is there any proof they would trade him for Wallace's contract, BBD and a first rounder even? I kind of don't think the Heat would do that trade. We all get carried away thinking you can get players for free but it is always an older player with a big contract that goes in salary dumps. The same can be said for all these people thinking you can get monta ellis for nothing. Can someone think of some times in recent nba history where a 22 year old has been traded in this kind of situation?

Agreed. Even if Beasley is the kind of player we want, I feel like most of the reason people make the trade ideas they do is because of how the Lakers go Gasol or something like that. So, they think trades half has crooked as that can be possible for us.

I don't want to make any assumption that Beasley will be impossible to get, but I feel like we'll need to give away more than Sheed's contract.

[Vermont Green]

The story about Ryan Gomes indicated that Miami wanted to trade Beasley for him just because his contract was non-guaranteed.  If they would do that, why wouldn't they do a wink wink with the Celtics and trade for Rasheed with a pre-determined reasonable buy out.

The only reason I can see would be a) they weren't really trying to trade for Gomes or b) Sheed hasn't conceeded to a reasonable buy out.

I just have a feeling this is going to happen but I guess after July 1.

[Andy Jick]

I don't think Danny will ever trade for him...  Danny doesn't have his head in the sand, and he values what he sees and hears.  We had the Heat in this season's playoffs.  Danny saw that team front and center, and what he no doubt saw in Beasley is a HUGE waste of talent.  If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow...but I don't see it.

[Vermont Green]

I don't think Danny will ever trade for him...  Danny doesn't have his head in the sand, and he values what he sees and hears.  We had the Heat in this season's playoffs.  Danny saw that team front and center, and what he no doubt saw in Beasley is a HUGE waste of talent.  If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow...but I don't see it.

So your opinion is that the trade is there but that Danny isn't doing it.  That is certainly possible.

I think you come off a wee bit dramatic when you take the position that anyone who doesn't agree with you has their head in the sand.  I happen to side with Coach Bo (I wonder if he is really a coach) and I think Beasley would be worth a try.  I think they needed him to do too much too soon in Miami.  That may not have been an unreasonable expectation for the #2 pick but regardless, it is clear he wasn't ready.  I see talent, just like I did with Billups (you will have to take my word for that) but what do I know, I also thought Gerald Green would figure it out.

[More Banners]

Sigh.

Again, I know Beasley.

And you are very mistaken, about the kid and about the Miami locker room.

Beasley will be fine, in fact will prosper, in the Boston locker room. Assumptions based on television are made in ignorance, quite frankly, not that it will stop people here.

He'd be a tremendous addition to the Celtics, a possible star bought low at the best possible time.

CoachBo, you also called Al Jefferson an "injury and substance-plagued disappointment."  

Double standard?