Sheed is thinking about retirement. Questions/Possibilities

[JSD]

“You know, I don’t know if Rasheed will ever play again,” Rivers said. “You know, he’s one of them. I think he took that out on the floor with him. I think he is thinking about retiring, and I thought you could see that in his play. He was dying out there. When he got the cramps and the strains, he was just trying to figure out a way of staying on the floor.”

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/06/18/doc-sheed-thinking-about-retirement/


Does he still count against the Cap? Are we able to include his salary in a trade?

[ram29jackson]

he needs counciling

[JSD]

I need a little Roy Hobbs in my life right now.

[Kane3387]

No he does not count against the cap. Mark Spears sheds light on this in the article he wrote today about the future of the Celtics. The article is on Yahoo.

[JSD]

Thanks

If Rasheed Wallace(notes) retires, his $6.3 million salary would be wiped off the team payroll next season and aid hopes of re-signing Allen.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ar8UO_DX3zC.tSnNUVgwVC05nYcB?slug=mc-celticsfinale061810

[JSD]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

[celticsclay]

This is the first I heard of him retiring. He seems to have a pretty sweet deal. Cakewalk through the regular sesaon, try a few games in the playoffs and everyone is ok. Ahh any post i have is gonna have such a negative tone to it

[Chris]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

[JSD]

This is the first I heard of him retiring. He seems to have a pretty sweet deal. Cakewalk through the regular sesaon, try a few games in the playoffs and everyone is ok. Ahh any post i have is gonna have such a negative tone to it

“You know, I don’t know if Rasheed will ever play again,” Rivers said. “You know, he’s one of them. I think he took that out on the floor with him. I think he is thinking about retiring, and I thought you could see that in his play. He was dying out there. When he got the cramps and the strains, he was just trying to figure out a way of staying on the floor.”

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2010/06/18/doc-sheed-thinking-about-retirement/

[JSD]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

I'm curious if there is any type of rule against this? Is it not a giant loophole?

[LarBrd33]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

If that's the case, we could package Sheed, Baby and Perk for a sign-and-traded top name free agent (Bosh, for example).   The three of them add up to 14 mil... so we can take back 17.5 mil.   Baby and Perk are only signed through the next season... If Sheed retired, he'd come off the books even sooner.    

[celticsclay]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

I'm curious if there is any type of rule against this? Is it not a giant loophole?

Pretty sure van horn was traded after he was retired.

[JSD]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

If that's the case, we could package Sheed, Baby and Perk for a sign-and-traded top name free agent (Bosh, for example).   The three of them add up to 14 mil... so we can take back 17.5 mil.   Baby and Perk are only signed through the next season... If Sheed retired, he'd come off the books even sooner.    

Joe Johnson Baby! 

[Chris]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

I'm curious if there is any type of rule against this? Is it not a giant loophole?

Pretty sure van horn was traded after he was retired.

Well, they can't be traded after they officially retire, however, a lot of times players will delay filing the paperwork, in order to allow things like this to happen.

If I remember correctly, Rick Fox was traded to the Celtics, and then retired.

If that's the case, we could package Sheed, Baby and Perk for a sign-and-traded top name free agent (Bosh, for example).   The three of them add up to 14 mil... so we can take back 17.5 mil.   Baby and Perk are only signed through the next season... If Sheed retired, he'd come off the books even sooner.   

Lets not go overboard here.  There needs to be motivation for the other team to do the trade as well.  For a guy like Bosh, I don't think an injured Perk and Glen Davis is enough incentive.

[RJ87]

Hmm... I wonder if we can ask Sheed to hold off on retirement until after he's traded. This could net us another piece without wasting the MLE.

Even a Sheed for Morris Peterson gives us a decent expiring to use at the deadline next year.

I think this is the most intriguing subplot of a Sheed retirement.  If we know he is going to retire, he would have a ton of value, because it would be even more valuable than an expiring contract. 

Whether it is taking someone elses bad contract to get an asset, or using him to get a good player from a team strapped for money (or looking for cap room), it would be a huge asset.

I'm curious if there is any type of rule against this? Is it not a giant loophole?

Pretty sure van horn was traded after he was retired.

yes he was