C's have one more title run left

[wdleehi]

There needs to be a big offensive addition. 


The defense is title level. 


The offense is not. 




What really scares me is the drop off we saw with the older players.  The NBA is a league where once the drop starts, it goes down really fast. 

[Evantime34]

There needs to be a big offensive addition. 


The defense is title level. 


The offense is not. 




What really scares me is the drop off we saw with the older players.  The NBA is a league where once the drop starts, it goes down really fast. 

Sometimes a players ascension happens just as fast. I expect Rondo to come back next year and play like the best point guard in the league.

[rondohondo]

There needs to be a big offensive addition. 


The defense is title level. 


The offense is not. 




What really scares me is the drop off we saw with the older players.  The NBA is a league where once the drop starts, it goes down really fast. 

Yea a guy like Luke Babbit in the draft would be a great fit off the bench, but its doubtful he will be around at #19. Anthony Morrow would also be a great help to the outside shooting off the bench.

[celticmaestro]

Sign someone who can create his own shot. Please don't tell me "we've got Pierce for that" - I know he can do it but it's not enough.

To be honest, I don't think this team has another title run as it is. It needs a big change.

[kozlodoev]

There needs to be a big offensive addition. 


The defense is title level. 


The offense is not. 




What really scares me is the drop off we saw with the older players.  The NBA is a league where once the drop starts, it goes down really fast. 

What really scares me is that we can't buy a rebound. I think it's a combination of our age and sophisticated defensive schemes.


With so many adjustments on defense, we end up out of position so much (and that was evident in yesterday's game) that the opposition will often not be boxed out.

This was less of a problem in 2008, because pre-injury Garnett and a younger Pierce were able to clean up a lot of this stuff, and we didn't neccesarily notice any rebounding problems.

However, Garnett no longer has enough gas to play like his 2008 self for 38-40 minutes a night, even if it's only in the playoffs. I also fear that Perkins might never be the same after this knee injury.

So yes, we have another run left in us, because we're an old, grizzled, and gritty team. We also need improvements in the offseason: notably, a long, active body at the 5 who is able to start and get rebounds (heh, like any team in the NBA will pass on one of these). I think this will be the hardest need to address. Backup offensively-minded wing is still a need as well, but that might be easier to staff since there are some passable options in the FA pool.

All in all, the loss is disheartening, but I don't think the team should rush into decisions before taking a couple of weeks to reflect on the state of the team. I do feel that we have no better options on the market than keeping the two Allens and Robinson.

[Eric_Suede]

I know you guys are all dejected as I am but I'm still pround of this team. Again this is the same team left for dead after the Regular season. Truthfully,even some fans here had given up on this team and had a scared feeling that we would lose to miami. I want our core to remain the same for one more run. We're mad at him but we need ray back. Despite his poor shooting his D was awesome. Truth is we lost last night cause we got KIlled on the boards. (Didn't realize how big a factor Perk was until these last 2 games). Had we rebounded effectively and kept them off the offensive glass we'd have #18 now.
 Bottomline, I want to see this team intact. I still believe guys , we got one more run in us. Just need a big man who can rebound (WE MISS YOU POWE!) find someone dumb enough to take finley & Daniels in a trade. Despite all we feel right now. Honestly we still have to be proud of our C's. Look at the bright side, Imagine if Ainge didn't do as I suggested years ago (signing vets) and listened to many of you and we still hung our futures on the likes of Green & Jefferson we'd be an afterthought. Still proud of our team.

[Drucci]

Sign someone who can create his own shot. Please don't tell me "we've got Pierce for that" - I know he can do it but it's not enough.

To be honest, I don't think this team has another title run as it is. It needs a big change.

Agreed. I thought from the beginning that this season was our last shot. Sure, the regular season has given us hope that you can pace yourself to play big in the playoffs but the landscape of the NBA will be really different next year and the East probably tougher.

I think our guys played to their max level and aging won't help the Big Three. I would be glad to be proven wrong, of course, but let's see what Danny does this summer first. It would be logical to give a last shot to this core next season since we fell short of 4 points in a game 7, but...

[Spicoli]

Homecourt advantage turned out being the difference. The Lakers were getting every tick tack foul call in the 4th quarter . That's why regular season matters.  I say retool and take one more shot

Karma. This is what i feared before the playoffs even started. You cannot cheat the regular season, even if it means greater health in the long run. The Celtics just flat out gave games away (to NJ, NYK, Memphis, etc). The Lakers played the right way all season, and they earned home court over us. It's the reason they won. If we were at home, we would have won. No doubt in my mind. The starters should play fewer minutes next season, and let the bench get the majority of the load, so that they'll have a shot at homecourt while still having reasonable health.

[quidinqui33]

Our defense is great as always, but

We need a big perimeter player who can attack and get to the line.

Couldn't agree with you more.  Our issue this whole season has been that our offense bogs down when we get a lead and try to hold on to it, or in the 4th quarter.

I love ray and I love his three ball and I hope he can stay on the cheap and come off the bench.  But I think the celts will be much better served finding a 2 guard that can drive to the basket and draw falls with a decent jumper rather than a 2 guard that has a great jumper (when on) but does not draw fouls.  P used to do this at the 3 for us, but he just can't do that anymore.  I think if we focus on this one change, we can still compete with anybody next year.

[celtics2]

Homecourt advantage turned out being the difference. The Lakers were getting every tick tack foul call in the 4th quarter . That's why regular season matters.  I say retool and take one more shot



1) Resign ray for 2 yr 20 mil, but move him to the bench as the 6th man. His legs were clearly dead after game 2 of the finals. He played the most minutes of the big 3 this season and I think if you can cut Rays minutes down to about 30 a game , he will be much more rested and have hig legs for the end of the season.


2) Sign Mike Miller. If Doc comes back ( Please come bac doc) there is that connection. If Not Mike Mille use the MLE to sign Anthony Morrow. He is one of the best young 3 pt shooters in the game.


3) Let Scal and Shelden go as free agents. Use the LLE to sign a rebounder/defender with length.


4) draft best big man available , hopefully an athletic long rebounder/shot blocker

5) Resign Nate or TA or Both 3-4 mil for 2 yrs

6) Actually play the regular season and get HOMECOURT ADVANTAGE FOR THE FINALS





I want another Shot at these Fakers!!



The C's clearly missed Perk and the starting 5 has still never lost a series.


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Even with the lousy refs if Perk played that would have made the difference. The offensive boards were offensive. Way too many. We definitely have another shot and that is because of Rondo. This astonishing dude is something to watch. After he hit that 3 from out of nowhere a foul was called next play against us and 2 were drained. That was big. That was a Stern foul. If it weren't for the Celts I wouldn't even care about the NBA. The League sucks big time. Has for some time. Too controlled. But have been a Celtic fan since the Cousy days.

[Mr October]

This Celtic team is easily still the best in the East, and only 5 points shy of winning the whole thing.

KG of the regular season in 10-11 will be better than KG of the 09-10 regular season. His leg got better and better every month.

All this team needs is a couple more young legs to help maintain minutes and play more competitively when 1-2 of our starters go down here or there.

[Mr October]

Homecourt advantage turned out being the difference. The Lakers were getting every tick tack foul call in the 4th quarter . That's why regular season matters.  I say retool and take one more shot

Karma. This is what i feared before the playoffs even started. You cannot cheat the regular season, even if it means greater health in the long run. The Celtics just flat out gave games away (to NJ, NYK, Memphis, etc). The Lakers played the right way all season, and they earned home court over us. It's the reason they won. If we were at home, we would have won. No doubt in my mind. The starters should play fewer minutes next season, and let the bench get the majority of the load, so that they'll have a shot at homecourt while still having reasonable health.

If Perkins checks Pau last night, the Celtics would have won. I have no doubt of that in my mind.

[Lucky17]

This Celtic team is easily still the best in the East, and only 5 points shy of winning the whole thing.

KG of the regular season in 10-11 will be better than KG of the 09-10 regular season. His leg got better and better every month.

All this team needs is a couple more young legs to help maintain minutes and play more competitively when 1-2 of our starters go down here or there.

This is what I'm thinking too. People want to blow up a team that was 5 points shy of winning a championship?

Orlando and the New Lebronnettes are likely the only teams to contend for the Eastern title next year, with Miami possibly in the mix as well. Chemistry and defense are essential to contending teams, and we have both.

Danny will need to be very smart with the draft and free agency, but he can easily bring back the core of this team (starting five, Tony, Nate, and Davis) before using any of the MLE.

The window is still open.

[wdleehi]

This Celtic team is easily still the best in the East, and only 5 points shy of winning the whole thing.

KG of the regular season in 10-11 will be better than KG of the 09-10 regular season. His leg got better and better every month.

All this team needs is a couple more young legs to help maintain minutes and play more competitively when 1-2 of our starters go down here or there.

This is what I'm thinking too. People want to blow up a team that was 5 points shy of winning a championship?

Orlando and the New Lebronnettes are likely the only teams to contend for the Eastern title next year, with Miami possibly in the mix as well. Chemistry and defense are essential to contending teams, and we have both.

Danny will need to be very smart with the draft and free agency, but he can easily bring back the core of this team (starting five, Tony, Nate, and Davis) before using any of the MLE.

The window is still open.

I don't want the team to be blown up.


I want the team to improve for another run. 

There is a downward trend being shown by key offensive players.  They need someone to be what those guys used to be.

[Lucky17]

This Celtic team is easily still the best in the East, and only 5 points shy of winning the whole thing.

KG of the regular season in 10-11 will be better than KG of the 09-10 regular season. His leg got better and better every month.

All this team needs is a couple more young legs to help maintain minutes and play more competitively when 1-2 of our starters go down here or there.

This is what I'm thinking too. People want to blow up a team that was 5 points shy of winning a championship?

Orlando and the New Lebronnettes are likely the only teams to contend for the Eastern title next year, with Miami possibly in the mix as well. Chemistry and defense are essential to contending teams, and we have both.

Danny will need to be very smart with the draft and free agency, but he can easily bring back the core of this team (starting five, Tony, Nate, and Davis) before using any of the MLE.

The window is still open.

I don't want the team to be blown up.


I want the team to improve for another run. 

There is a downward trend being shown by key offensive players.  They need someone to be what those guys used to be.

I hear you. I wasn't directing my comments to anyone in particular, really.

If Danny can somehow acquire an offensive-minded wing to assume scoring duties when Pierce and Allen are out, it'd be a tremendous addition. And then shore up the end of the bench with some length/height/muscle.