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Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2010, 12:12:00 AM »

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I'm dead serious in expecting an epic Scalabrine game.

This.

Perk is good and all but he is NOT the be all and end all of this team. He's a big body who shoots free throws pretty well. Are you guys seriously placing a finals win on the shoulders of Kendrick Perkins?? Wow.

He's averaging 6 and 6. Its not that serious.

He may not be a 20 and 10 guy but he's our defensive anchor, along with KG, and is a key to our success. But that being said I think we can win without him, but it will tough. Bynum being limited might help, but we'll see...

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2010, 12:12:10 AM »

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Wow....seems as if he only sprained 2 ligaments. Thought it was worse. Gotta question now whether a 60% Perk(at best) is worth it.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2010, 12:13:26 AM »

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Wow....seems as if he only sprained 2 ligaments. Thought it was worse. Gotta question now whether a 60% Perk(at best) is worth it.

Hmmm. That could be good news depending on how badly they are sprained.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2010, 12:15:42 AM »

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People who only look at Perk's box score averages don't understand the impact he has on the way the Celtics play that doesn't show up in the box score.

It's similar to the effect that Bynum has for the Lakers, only I would contend that Perkins is actually more integral to the Celtics' success.
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Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2010, 12:16:13 AM »

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First off, the moment Perk hit the ground, I knew this was more than a knee tweak. And apparently Perk told Rick Bucher at halftime that he heard something pop. Obviously, we don't know exactly what it is yet, but I think the odds are 95%+ that Perk is out for game 7. Personally, I think he did something serious like a blown ACL. I surely hope I'm wrong.  

Second, the no-Perk-no-title math people are throwing around just doesn't add up for me. At all. We can survive a game without Perk. Tonight, for example, we held LA under 90 points - that's good defense. The problem tonight was our offense. We had lots of easy looks - we got opportunities. But we missed like 6 or 7 lay-ups. Wide open lay-ups. That's like 12-14 pts. right there. Considering that LA's lead hovered around 20 pts. most of the game, 14 pts. would have made a big difference.

Lastly, LA threw their best punch tonight. It knocked us down, fine. Everything went right for LA tonight - they've proven in the past that they don't have a one-two combo - just the first solo punch. You know we'll get right back up and fight back in game 7 and we'll have more punch than they do. There might even be a "win one for Perk" vibe that gives us extra fuel.

I'm not guaranteeing victory, but I like our chances on Thursday.  

EDIT: sounds like his knee isn't that bad?

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2010, 12:17:02 AM »

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Wow....seems as if he only sprained 2 ligaments. Thought it was worse. Gotta question now whether a 60% Perk(at best) is worth it.
Anyone have a link?

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2010, 12:17:35 AM »

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Could Perkins be a go, with a couple shots to the knee??

Hell Bynum is playing with a torn meniscus he's got to at least give us some minutes
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Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2010, 12:21:41 AM »

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First off, the moment Perk hit the ground, I knew this was more than a knee tweak. And apparently Perk told Rick Bucher at halftime that he heard something pop. Obviously, we don't know exactly what it is yet, but I think the odds are 95%+ that Perk is out for game 7. Personally, I think he did something serious like a blown ACL. I surely hope I'm wrong.  

Second, the no-Perk-no-title math people are throwing around just doesn't add up for me. At all. We can survive a game without Perk. Tonight, for example, we held LA under 90 points - that's good defense. The problem tonight was our offense. We had lots of easy looks - we got opportunities. But we missed like 6 or 7 lay-ups. Wide open lay-ups. That's like 12-14 pts. right there. Considering that LA's lead hovered around 20 pts. most of the game, 14 pts. would have made a big difference.

Lastly, LA threw their best punch tonight. It knocked us down, fine. Everything went right for LA tonight - they've proven in the past that they don't have a one-two combo - just the first solo punch. You know we'll get right back up and fight back in game 7 and we'll have more punch than they do. There might even be a "win one for Perk" vibe that gives us extra fuel.

I'm not guaranteeing victory, but I like our chances on Thursday.  

I think because the game was so awful people overlook this fact. We did pretty good defensively. It was our lack of hustle and miserable offense that caused us this loss.

And yes the Lakers did give their best shot tonight. I don't know if the Lakers can repeat what they did tonight, but I highly doubt it. Game 7 will be a battle of EPIC proportions.There will be blood, sweat, and tears. But the best team will prevail. We'll see who that is at the end of the 1st quarter in Game 7.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2010, 12:22:02 AM »

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Wow....seems as if he only sprained 2 ligaments. Thought it was worse. Gotta question now whether a 60% Perk(at best) is worth it.
Anyone have a link?

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Caught Perk walking out under own power but very stiffly. Source says he sprained 2 ligaments. On Thurs: "I'm going to try to give it a go."

http://twitter.com/RicBucher

Not in love with Buch as a source, but it's clear he was at the game.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2010, 12:22:25 AM »

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First off, the moment Perk hit the ground, I knew this was more than a knee tweak. And apparently Perk told Rick Bucher at halftime that he heard something pop. Obviously, we don't know exactly what it is yet, but I think the odds are 95%+ that Perk is out for game 7. Personally, I think he did something serious like a blown ACL. I surely hope I'm wrong.  

Second, the no-Perk-no-title math people are throwing around just doesn't add up for me. At all. We can survive a game without Perk. Tonight, for example, we held LA under 90 points - that's good defense. The problem tonight was our offense. We had lots of easy looks - we got opportunities. But we missed like 6 or 7 lay-ups. Wide open lay-ups. That's like 12-14 pts. right there. Considering that LA's lead hovered around 20 pts. most of the game, 14 pts. would have made a big difference.

Lastly, LA threw their best punch tonight. It knocked us down, fine. Everything went right for LA tonight - they've proven in the past that they don't have a one-two combo - just the first solo punch. You know we'll get right back up and fight back in game 7 and we'll have more punch than they do. There might even be a "win one for Perk" vibe that gives us extra fuel.

I'm not guaranteeing victory, but I like our chances on Thursday.  

EDIT: sounds like his knee isn't that bad?

Getting killed on the boards tends to result in poor offense, since you don't get very many opportunities to score.

The Celtics didn't actually shoot a much lower percentage than the Lakers, they just got totally destroyed on the boards (and got no production whatsoever from the bench).

Perk's presence or absence has a huge effect on those two things.  If Perk isn't playing, the Celtics are worse on the boards and the bench is less effective because Sheed moves into the starting lineup.
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Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2010, 12:25:02 AM »

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We weren't winning Game 7 WITH Perk.  Do the math.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2010, 12:26:10 AM »

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Well, I'd start Sheed...and the Team needs to set him aside prior to Thursday and let him know to keep his head in the game, even if a call doesn't go his way. We need him.

When Sheed is hitting, he is nearly unstoppable. He can (And Has) spread the floor like no other.

He is a Very Smart player - and has experience in these kind of games.

He plays Gasol as well as KG does - maybe better.

Bring in Glen off the bench for stretches to sub for Sheed or KG..and at this point, minutes shouldn't matter. Just one more game to go!

I certainly will miss Perk (If he doesn't play), as will the the Team, but I cannot count out Our Boston Celtics if he doesn't play.

Time To Man Up, Boston! Play with more effort on Thursday...we got this bad loss out of our system...LA has just as much pressure on them as we do on us.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2010, 12:27:53 AM »

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Eh, defensive rebounding with Perk and Sheed is negligible.

Perk's on court DReb Rate for the playoffs: 68.2%
Sheed's on court DReb Rate for the playoffs: 67.4%

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2010, 12:32:05 AM »

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Wow....seems as if he only sprained 2 ligaments. Thought it was worse. Gotta question now whether a 60% Perk(at best) is worth it.
Anyone have a link?

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RicBucher
 
Caught Perk walking out under own power but very stiffly. Source says he sprained 2 ligaments. On Thurs: "I'm going to try to give it a go."

http://twitter.com/RicBucher

Not in love with Buch as a source, but it's clear he was at the game.
TP. Thanks.

Re: So how do we win Game 7 without Perk?
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2010, 12:38:30 AM »

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We weren't winning Game 7 WITH Perk.  Do the math.
I'm surprised by the pessimism here tonight. Maybe if I come back in the morning I'll find some fellow optimists.