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Against LA, who would you rather see play?

Scal
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Shelden
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Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 08:26:41 PM »

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Shelden - he got the jitters out. He's ready now.

I'm wondering if Finley should be in street clothes. With his complete inability to play any semblence of D, Docs new found trust in Nate, Q back to full strength, and the need for bigs - shouldn't we go put Finley in street clothes?

If you need a three - you put KG to inbound, with Rasheed, Pierce, Ray and Nate, right?

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2010, 03:48:08 AM »

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As bad a matchup as this is for Shelden Williams, it is even worse for Scalabrine because of his lack of rebounding. That alone gives LA a major advantage whenever he is on the court. Those few possessions could end up being the difference between winning and losing a game so I wouldn't put Scalabrine on the floor, not against their big men.

Play Shelden ahead of Scalabrine for this series ... but on the season I consider Scal the fifth big in the depth chart and Shelden the sixth. Scalabrine is the more useful player.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2010, 03:52:11 AM »

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On another note, I don't know why Doc is so worried about Glen Davis or Rasheed Wallace fouling out. Let them foul out.

Playing them more minutes and having them foul out is a better scenario than playing either Scalabrine or Shelden Williams.

Be worried about Garnett's foul trouble and to a lesser extent Perk's ... but don't be so more worried about the backup big men. It's okay for them to foul out.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2010, 03:58:09 AM »

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God help us if we have to rely on either one, but if we do, I'd go with Scal, (is this ME saying this?) ... after Sheldon's collapse at the Staples Center, I'd rather hang my hat on a guy that's been there before, and at the very least, has experience playing in "big" games, and a thorough knowledge of all the plays, rotations, assignments, etc..

He's not a bad PF when he keeps it simple, and he's also got the tres', which will keep the defense a little looser. Defending Sheldon is easy, and they're not going to worry about him on the perimeter at all ... Scal's still a threat outside, and that in itself is a big plus. Here's hoping we don't have to find out.
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Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2010, 04:03:00 AM »

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If you refer to the gif above, we can see that Scal can redeem himself from his own mess.  ;D
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Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2010, 10:38:50 AM »

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I prefer Shelden

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2010, 11:14:54 AM »

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Scal,

He's actually a pretty good matchup for us when Odom goes to the 4 spot.  Much better than Shelden.  Shelden or Scal will both be torched against the Gasol - Bynum front line, so it wouldn't matter.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2010, 11:20:07 AM »

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Right now? Either - depending on the matchups.

Scal does seem to have a knack for not playing long stretches, but then being able to produce on a moment's notice.

Shelden? Sure he had a bad game on Sunday, but we won. In the right matchups, he can still help us.

I know that it seems as if it's been forever since we've seen Shelden play, but he certainly helped us win a few games earlier this year. Made some of us forget about Powe real quick.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2010, 11:33:12 AM »

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On another note, I don't know why Doc is so worried about Glen Davis or Rasheed Wallace fouling out. Let them foul out.

Playing them more minutes and having them foul out is a better scenario than playing either Scalabrine or Shelden Williams.

Be worried about Garnett's foul trouble and to a lesser extent Perk's ... but don't be so more worried about the backup big men. It's okay for them to foul out.
I understand his worrying in Game 2, because every big other than Perkins was in foul trouble.

But you're right, I thought he should have left Rasheed out there instead of Shelden.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2010, 11:35:57 AM »

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Scal...we basically know what to expect out of Scal,but its like playing roulette with Sheldon,you never know when the bullet will go off.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2010, 11:55:14 AM »

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Scal. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth, but Williams just played prehaps the single worst 4 minute stint in the history of basketball, and I'm including youth leagues. Terrible hands, stupid foul after giving up offensive rebound, horrible outlet pass that gets picked off for 3 by Bryant. Why was he trying to outlet to TA anyway?
At least Scal knows hoe to set a pick and maybe would pull a Laker big outside as he can hit a 3.
Not thrilled with either, but if I had to pick one, I'd go with Scal.
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Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2010, 12:02:18 PM »

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Scal. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth, but Williams just played prehaps the single worst 4 minute stint in the history of basketball,
Hyperbole is the single greatest thing in the entire universe....

Shelden didn't play anything close to the worst four minute stretch of basketball in history, even of Finals history.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2010, 12:06:57 PM »

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Scal. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth, but Williams just played prehaps the single worst 4 minute stint in the history of basketball,
Hyperbole is the single greatest thing in the entire universe....

Shelden didn't play anything close to the worst four minute stretch of basketball in history, even of Finals history.

While of course I exaggerated, I do defy you to show me a worse 4 minute stint in the finals. I can't imagine another coach leaving someone in for 4 minutes when he was playing that badly.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2010, 12:55:28 PM »

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Scal. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth, but Williams just played prehaps the single worst 4 minute stint in the history of basketball,
Hyperbole is the single greatest thing in the entire universe....

Shelden didn't play anything close to the worst four minute stretch of basketball in history, even of Finals history.

While of course I exaggerated, I do defy you to show me a worse 4 minute stint in the finals. I can't imagine another coach leaving someone in for 4 minutes when he was playing that badly.
Interesting points made by those who selected Shelden, but this not even a debate.  In this league you earn your playing time and this is especially true for Doc-coached teams.  I predict Shelden Williams will never play another minute for the Boston Celtics.

Re: Scal or Shelden?
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2010, 01:07:07 PM »

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On another note, I don't know why Doc is so worried about Glen Davis or Rasheed Wallace fouling out. Let them foul out.

Playing them more minutes and having them foul out is a better scenario than playing either Scalabrine or Shelden Williams.

Be worried about Garnett's foul trouble and to a lesser extent Perk's ... but don't be so more worried about the backup big men. It's okay for them to foul out.

Not sure that's true for either when IMO they both could be playing over the other 2 starters down the stretch depending on how either Perkins (foul trouble, TOs) KG (foul trouble, not rebounding)play. 

I would go with giving Shelden another shot but, I'll be hoping for a bit less touch fouls due to home cooking and both Shelden and Scals can continue being cheerleaders.
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