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Top 5 Reasons the Celtics Will Beat The Lakers
« on: June 01, 2010, 07:38:55 PM »

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Top 5 Reasons Why the Celtics Will Beat the Lakers.

5. Perk is overall better than 2008-Can you really say that about
the ever injured Bynum.
4. Our Bench is Better Than 2008 and better than the Lakers bench.  I'll take Sheed, Allen and Baby over Brown, Posey and House.(Match up wise. Baby and Sheed are key bigs and more valuable against the Lakers bigs.
3. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are playing better and working better in the system than 2008.  They compliment each other more.
2. Lakers are really not that much better than 2008. I give them credit for being better only because they are the defending champions and might put up a better fight.  They are still all about Kobe and when Bryant starts alienating his team mates via being a ball hog or yelling at them, they will quit on him(Just like 2008).
1. Rondo is a freak of nature compared to 2008. You can argue that KG has lost a little, but Rondo has improved exponentially.
Barring injury, who the heck is going to cover Rondo. 

The Celtics are playing better in the 2010 playoffs than 2008 play offs.  Are the Lakers?

Re: Top 5 Reasons the Celtics Will Beat The Lakers
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 07:55:16 PM »

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Also, unlike last year, the Lakers don't play defense.

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 07:56:20 PM »

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This series is simple in my eyes. If Rondo plays like the Rondo of the first 3 rounds, and if KG/Perk/Rasheed/BBD keep Gasol and Bynum relatively in check, we will win. Stop Gasol= WIN.

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 07:57:33 PM »

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Jackie McMullen said that those who say the Lakers don't play defense are not paying attention.  She said the Lakers are a great defensive team this year.  Anyone have the stats on Laker defense v. Celtics defense?
"If somebody would have told you when he was playing with the Knicks that Nate Robinson was going to change a big time game and he was going to do it mostly because of his defense, somebody would have got slapped."  Mark Jackson

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 08:04:13 PM »

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Jackie McMullen said that those who say the Lakers don't play defense are not paying attention.  She said the Lakers are a great defensive team this year.  Anyone have the stats on Laker defense v. Celtics defense?

I don't know the stats, but i agree with Jackie. I'm not one of the few who doesn't believe the Lakers play defense. I've watched just about every Laker game this year, and i can say that yes, they do play defense. Defense is their strong point this year. Offensively they're not nearly as explosive however. Scoring points on them will not be as easy as some may think, that's for sure.

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 08:14:00 PM »

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lakers are better this year. but so is boston. also bynum being gimpy is going to have an impact on them. i still dont see any laker being able to keep rondo from getting into the lane

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 08:16:48 PM »

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Top 5 Reasons Why the Celtics Will Beat the Lakers.

5. Perk is overall better than 2008-Can you really say that about the ever injured Bynum.
Bynum didn't play in '08-- but Perkins definitely improved.  Current Bynum, especially the way he's played the last two series is a disadvantage to the Lakers-- though we'll see by how much.

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4. Our Bench is Better Than 2008 and better than the Lakers bench.  I'll take Sheed, Allen and Baby over Brown, Posey and House.(Match up wise. Baby and Sheed are key bigs and more valuable against the Lakers bigs.
Posey and House destroyed the Lakers in '08 and in particular Posey was able to contain Kobe.  Odom has always been fairly successful against Sheed.  I will say that almost any bench in the league is better than the Laker's bench.

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3. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are playing better and working better in the system than 2008.  They compliment each other more.
That may be true-- but they're also two years older.  And are not producing as much as they did.  This is mostly made up for by Rondo's emergence-- but I wouldn't say Allen and Pierce of '10 are better than their '08 versions.

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2. Lakers are really not that much better than 2008. I give them credit for being better only because they are the defending champions and might put up a better fight.  They are still all about Kobe and when Bryant starts alienating his team mates via being a ball hog or yelling at them, they will quit on him(Just like 2008).
The Lakers are an improved team-- if its just that Gasol and Kobe have played longer together.  Talent-wise, it's not that great-- but I think they match up better with the Celtics with Artest and Bynum in the lineup. 

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1. Rondo is a freak of nature compared to 2008. You can argue that KG has lost a little, but Rondo has improved exponentially.
Barring injury, who the heck is going to cover Rondo. 
Rondo has improved exponentially and is a top 5 PG-- though the Lakers have just gone through teams that have Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams and Steve Nash.  All of whom IMO have a better offensive game than Rondo. 

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The Celtics are playing better in the 2010 playoffs than 2008 play offs.  Are the Lakers?
Are the Lakers playing better in 2010 than 2008?  Yes.  Are they playing better than the Celtics?  That remains to be seen.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 08:23:03 PM »

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rondo is a different animal than the other guys the lakers have seen

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 08:26:54 PM »

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Jackie McMullen said that those who say the Lakers don't play defense are not paying attention.  She said the Lakers are a great defensive team this year.  Anyone have the stats on Laker defense v. Celtics defense?

The lower the DRtg, the better. DRtg is points allowed per 100 possessions. LA not helped by the fact that Phoenix was the best offensive team by far. Orlando and Cleveland were 3rd and 5th, respectively.

Lakers Regular season DRtg: 103.4
Lakers Playoff DRtg: 110.5
Celtics Regular season DRtg: 103.6
Celtics Playoff DRtg: 99.9

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 08:29:40 PM »

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rondo is a different animal than the other guys the lakers have seen
Would you care to elaborate?

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 08:40:17 PM »

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Top 5 Reasons Why the Celtics Will Beat the Lakers.

5. Perk is overall better than 2008-Can you really say that about the ever injured Bynum.
Bynum didn't play in '08-- but Perkins definitely improved.  Current Bynum, especially the way he's played the last two series is a disadvantage to the Lakers-- though we'll see by how much.

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4. Our Bench is Better Than 2008 and better than the Lakers bench.  I'll take Sheed, Allen and Baby over Brown, Posey and House.(Match up wise. Baby and Sheed are key bigs and more valuable against the Lakers bigs.
Posey and House destroyed the Lakers in '08 and in particular Posey was able to contain Kobe.  Odom has always been fairly successful against Sheed.  I will say that almost any bench in the league is better than the Laker's bench.

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3. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are playing better and working better in the system than 2008.  They compliment each other more.
That may be true-- but they're also two years older.  And are not producing as much as they did.  This is mostly made up for by Rondo's emergence-- but I wouldn't say Allen and Pierce of '10 are better than their '08 versions.

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2. Lakers are really not that much better than 2008. I give them credit for being better only because they are the defending champions and might put up a better fight.  They are still all about Kobe and when Bryant starts alienating his team mates via being a ball hog or yelling at them, they will quit on him(Just like 2008).
The Lakers are an improved team-- if its just that Gasol and Kobe have played longer together.  Talent-wise, it's not that great-- but I think they match up better with the Celtics with Artest and Bynum in the lineup. 

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1. Rondo is a freak of nature compared to 2008. You can argue that KG has lost a little, but Rondo has improved exponentially.
Barring injury, who the heck is going to cover Rondo. 
Rondo has improved exponentially and is a top 5 PG-- though the Lakers have just gone through teams that have Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams and Steve Nash.  All of whom IMO have a better offensive game than Rondo. 

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The Celtics are playing better in the 2010 playoffs than 2008 play offs.  Are the Lakers?
Are the Lakers playing better in 2010 than 2008?  Yes.  Are they playing better than the Celtics?  That remains to be seen.
5.  Perkins has a gotten better since 2008. I understand Bynum didn't play but with Bynum doesn't make a difference to the Lakers. They aren't any better with or without.

4. Though I love what Posey and House has done for us. I really miss House. With the intensity of Baby and the great defense Allen has played I would take them. I don't know where you came up with Odom handling Sheed. How big is your sample size to come up with that stat. Odom is know for disappearing during games and series.  Having two quality bigs coming off the bench and a good defender is more important.  They will wear down L.A.'s bigs.  That the advantage



3. Allen is better in the 2010 playoffs than 2008. Over all he has defended better and when the ball is moving creates more diversity.. Much more diversity than 2008.  I would even say the Celtics finally know how to use Ray. Ray hasn't shown any age. Ask Lebron James if he thinks Pierce has slowed down defensively..


2.I will give you that Pau Gasol is better integrated into the Lakers.  I don't think that makes them that much better. I think the Lakers were better last year with Ariza over Artest.

1. I will not question the abilities of Westbrook, Williams and Nash. Except for Nash, Rondo is a level above them. Compared to 2008, Rondo is so much better. Lakers are going to have fits. I hope Bryant defends Rondo.

And yes your correct.  We will just have to see. See the Green Buzz Saw cutting right through the Lakers. Grinding them through a 7 game series. Lakers will quit in 6.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 08:47:15 PM »

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Kobe is a beast, but a similar scorer and defender to LeBron and D-Wade. My problem is--if Doc puts Pierce on Kobe and Artest guards Pierce, our best offensive player is going to be really tired...That means others will have to step up...

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 08:51:13 PM »

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rondo is a different animal than the other guys the lakers have seen
Would you care to elaborate?

rondo finishes around the rim better than any of those guys. he just has a knack. the first time the lakers played in boston...they had no answer for rondo. he brought the celtics back from down 13 in like 3 or 4 minutes

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 08:54:46 PM »

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rondo's health improving:

Rondo update from ESPN LA's Ramona Shelburne ... Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo said he won't be 100 percent healthy by Thursday's Game 1 of the NBA Finals, but he'll be close enough.

"I'm about 67 percent today," Rondo joked, before the Celtics practiced at UCLA's Pauley Pavilion. "I won't be a 100 percent by Thursday, but I'll be like 94.7.

"Right now, nobody in the Finals right now is 100 percent. If you find someone let me know who is, let me know. You can ask the Lakers too. One of our rookies might be 100 percent."