Key factors – and about Bynum

[coco]

Key factors – and about Bynum

1)Rondo has to dominate the series. Period. Pjackson is big on neutralizing opposing team dominant PGs so Rondo has to expect Kobe to guard him.  Be prepared to answer.

2)No PP vs Artest isolations.  With PP having no lift under him, Artest will eat his lunch

3)PP won’t be able to guard Kobe in the 4th quarter cause Ray can’t guard Artest

4)I hope the refs let them play.  That would favor the Cs


…about Bynum, he’s been talking it up about how glad he is to face the Cs and basically redeem himself and be the difference maker this time around.  Well, I think Perk should take that personal and neutralize Bynum.

Problem matchups are Kobe and Odom.  Can’t play PP on Kobe this time around for reasons stated above, and Odom because Posey isn’t around this time.  Maybe BBD can - somewhat - keep up with Odom...


Feel free to add Key Factors if I missed any important ones.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Yep, because Artest has a ton of lift himself...

So Ray can guard LeBron but can't guard Artest...

OK.

[the_Bird]

It's all defense.

KG's got to contain Pau Gasol.  If he can keep Gasol from going off, hopefully Kobe will revert to hero-mode and start jacking up bad shots from all over.  Best way to beat the Lakers is still to let Kobe score a very inefficient 30 points.

Rondo (and maybe Nate) need to harrass D-Fish, get them out of rhythm, again, make them take hero-shots.

Tony Allen's going to have to give quality minutes.  Pierce and Ray are going to need their fouls against Kobe.

Get 'em flustered.  Make them play one-on-five.  Let Artest think he can take the game over offensively.

The Lakers are still a team that can beat themselves, with a little push from us.

[RockinRyA]

Yep, because Artest has a ton of lift himself...

So Ray can guard LeBron but can't guard Artest...

OK.

my thoughts exactly

[Carhole]

Key factors – and about Bynum

1)Rondo has to dominate the series. Period. Pjackson is big on neutralizing opposing team dominant PGs so Rondo has to expect Kobe to guard him.  Be prepared to answer.

2)No PP vs Artest isolations.  With PP having no lift under him, Artest will eat his lunch

3)PP won’t be able to guard Kobe in the 4th quarter cause Ray can’t guard Artest

4)I hope the refs let them play.  That would favor the Cs


…about Bynum, he’s been talking it up about how glad he is to face the Cs and basically redeem himself and be the difference maker this time around.  Well, I think Perk should take that personal and neutralize Bynum.

Problem matchups are Kobe and Odom.  Can’t play PP on Kobe this time around for reasons stated above, and Odom because Posey isn’t around this time.  Maybe BBD can - somewhat - keep up with Odom...


Feel free to add Key Factors if I missed any important ones.

Artest has never eaten PPs lunch historically in fact if you had to say one of them has out played the other over the 30 plus matchups it would be Paul. PP is our ISO player he is our only real triple threat. His ISO should not and will not be our offense but it will be seen throughout the series.

PP seemed to have lift when he averaged 8+ boards a game against orlando and when he went down the lane and stuck it on their D at the end of game 4 (you know before he over dribbled on the final possession)

Ray can cover Artest b/c they will not post Artest in the 4th quarter to have Kobe off the ball. Artest is not a good enough passer to take advantage of Kobes off the ball movement. Kobe will have the ball most likely on the strong side with Gasol and Artest will be on the week side 3 pt line.

[Celtic#9]

It's all defense.

KG's got to contain Pau Gasol.  If he can keep Gasol from going off, hopefully Kobe will revert to hero-mode and start jacking up bad shots from all over.  Best way to beat the Lakers is still to let Kobe score a very inefficient 30 points.

Rondo (and maybe Nate) need to harrass D-Fish, get them out of rhythm, again, make them take hero-shots.

Tony Allen's going to have to give quality minutes.  Pierce and Ray are going to need their fouls against Kobe.

Get 'em flustered.  Make them play one-on-five.  Let Artest think he can take the game over offensively.

The Lakers are still a team that can beat themselves, with a little push from us.

I think Tony Allen could be good on defense against Kobe. He seems like an annoying defender. Also since he is always really active, running everwhere on the court I would like to see him wear down Kobe a bit.

[coco]

Yep, because Artest has a ton of lift himself...

So Ray can guard LeBron but can't guard Artest...

OK.

my thoughts exactly

I disagree.  If isolating PP vs Artest is our game plan....oh boy.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Yep, because Artest has a ton of lift himself...

So Ray can guard LeBron but can't guard Artest...

OK.

my thoughts exactly

I disagree.  If isolating PP vs Artest is our game plan....oh boy.

Be that a good plan or not, it has nothing to do with Pierce's lift.

[SamuelAdams]

Artest has never eaten PPs lunch historically in fact if you had to say one of them has out played the other over the 30 plus matchups it would be Paul.

Is this documented somewehere?  I sure remember Artest being perhaps the only good defender against PP for a long time, especially his Indiana days.

[celticinorlando]

boston has 2 guys they can throw at kobe/artest: PP, ray and tony allen....rondo and nate handle fisher and farmar...

[Bankshot]

boston has 2 guys they can throw at kobe/artest: PP, ray and tony allen....rondo and nate handle fisher and farmar...

They have Shannon Brown too.

[celticinorlando]

tony allen has the chance to have some good match ups for boston. i worry about odom off the bench and gasol

[Who]

It will be interesting to see if Phil Jackson tries to post up Ron Artest vs Ray Allen when Pierce switches onto Kobe. Generally, it takes them out of their offense and Ron's efficiency down there hasn't been great ... but it is a good matchup for the Lakers to exploit.

Anyway, Doc should force Phil Jackson to make that decision before deciding whether to put Pierce on Kobe is worthwhile or not. My guess is that it will work out fine most of the time.

[RockinRyA]

Yep, because Artest has a ton of lift himself...

So Ray can guard LeBron but can't guard Artest...

OK.

so does what we posted mean that we think pierce iso is what's best? we are just countering your points. 

my thoughts exactly

I disagree.  If isolating PP vs Artest is our game plan....oh boy.

[snively]

It will be interesting to see if Phil Jackson tries to post up Ron Artest vs Ray Allen when Pierce switches onto Kobe. Generally, it takes them out of their offense and Ron's efficiency down there hasn't been great ... but it is a good matchup for the Lakers to exploit.

Anyway, Doc should force Phil Jackson to make that decision before deciding whether to put Pierce on Kobe is worthwhile or not. My guess is that it will work out fine most of the time.

Even moreso than Vince Carter and the Magic, I will be ecstatic if the Lakers are forced to initiate their offense through Artest, especially on post-ups.  Ron is not a quick shot kind of player so he's very easy to double on the shot. 

Pierce on Kobe is very appealing to me.  Pierce has always frustrated Kobe defensively with his length, width, strength and patience. 

The more I consider this series the more optimistic I become.  The Celtics have good options for defending each of the Lakers best offensive players (I'm even optimistic on Sheed vs. Gasol given Sheed's increased energy level).  Lamar Odom is intimidating on paper, but if he's not hitting his 3s and the C's respect his offensive rebounding as much as Varejao, Haslem and Gortat, I don't anticipate him swinging the series. When he isn't hitting his 3s and dropping in putbacks, he hasn't been any more effective than Sheed or Baby offensively, despite enjoying considerable match-up advantages against most teams.