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Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« on: May 29, 2010, 08:32:10 PM »

Offline Greeny

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It took awhile, but after 3 rounds, Nate made a contribution.
Nate propelled this team to the finals with his unconsciuos shooting and energy.

This reminded me of how much energy Eddie House brought to this team, and how much I missed it.

I then thought that if the Celtics still had Eddie House, would he have made more of a contribution to the team than Nate?

I think since Eddie was already a part of this team, and always made an impact in the playoffs, Eddie could have made more plays, and scored more often and been more consistent.

Now that Nate broke the ice, I'm glad he has arrived to take Eddie's role. Nate will never be Eddie, but I'm glad he is on this team.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 08:41:05 PM »

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I think this has been touched opon before, and i think the verdict is the same.

Everyone misses Eddie but him leaving left a void open that forced Tony Allen to the front of the stage, its sad to see Eddie go but it was a blessing in disguise.

If its a straight up Eddie vs Nate comparison, then Nate has the bigger upside since he can create his own shot.. he isnt into our system thats the only downside but if we were to have a choich next year who to pick up from those 2, then ill go with Eddie House.. Nate is young and has alot of promiss in this league both as a player and sort of a side show because of his hight but that will give a bigger impact ego wise than having a proven journey man in Eddie House who is all team, all the time.

Speculations weather or not he fits in with the group is a elaborate guessing game so i would not put to much into that when doing a straight up comparison.

To sum up:

Now Nate > Eddie
Next Year: Eddie > Nate
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Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010, 08:48:39 PM »

Offline Greeny

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I believe Nate has a better all around game, but Nate has never played on a team like the Celtics.
Plus he joined this team just before the playoffs, so there was little time to gel.

This wasn't a post about missing Eddie House. I missed the energy. I was just comparing and remembering the energy that he brought every night. Just like Nate did last night after 3 rounds, even though Doc limited his play.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 08:53:16 PM »

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I think we are all on a bit of a Nate Robinson high after last night, lets wait until a few games into the finals to see if it translates into anything substantial.  As of right now, I would still keep Eddie House over Kryptonate.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 09:09:06 PM »

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Definitely Eddie. Hands down.

Nate provided that spark last night which was fantastic.

Eddie would have provided sustained energy and scoring throughout each of the series PLUS would have been able to give Rondo more of a break than Nate could, given that he knew the rotations and knew how to play playoff basketball.

It wasn't a great trade but last night it obviously paid off. Hard to say that Eddie wouldn't have had at least one breakthrough game so far this post-season.

Eddie.


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Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 10:18:28 PM »

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Definitely Eddie. Hands down.

Nate provided that spark last night which was fantastic.

Eddie would have provided sustained energy and scoring throughout each of the series PLUS would have been able to give Rondo more of a break than Nate could, given that he knew the rotations and knew how to play playoff basketball.

It wasn't a great trade but last night it obviously paid off. Hard to say that Eddie wouldn't have had at least one breakthrough game so far this post-season.

Eddie.

You need to play to be able to contribute. When Nate's number was called he contributed... that's the bottom line.

Eddie was in a similar situation the first year, when he was useless before getting the call to play in the playoffs... Doc kept using Cassell. Then in the next round we played Detroit and House, because of his inability to dribble, couldn't get off the bench even if Doc wanted to use him. He was useful once again against the Lakers.

Eddie was great for us, but I think a lot of the perspective and how House actually House contributed for us in our playoff runs get forgotten.

Nate brings us skills Eddie House didn't provide, that is enough. TA has been great for us, so that Nate wasn't playing shouldn't be looked as a negative for him, but as a great positive for TA. TA is currently injured, and his played as suffered as of late... and Nate's number has been called and he's delivering.

His defensive rotations are there, his energy his there, he's distributing the ball, and scoring. I don't think we can ask much more from him than what he has provided, especially given the limited opportunities he has been given.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 10:43:41 PM »

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Personally speaking i cannot compare the two or find fault with Eddie House's stay in Boston.His time was well served and he gave us 100% when he hit the floor for the couple seasons.Until i see a bigger sample of Nate's work its hard to compare them.He has to earm his wings,just as Eddie did.I feel Eddie will always be a special player from the 2008 championship season.Ask me this same question at the end of next season or at the end of Nate's stay in Boston.

How can you  compare players when one player has only been on a team a hot minute and the other played an improtant roIe on a championship team for a couple seasons?House is and will always be remembered for certain key moments in the regular seasons and a couple playoff seasons.

I still think Danny didn't need to pull the trigger but whats done is done.I didn't see the significant upgrade and it didn't make us an instantly better team.I understand Eddie was not playing well most of this season but that could be said for most of the team.I feel Eddie's family probably suffered the most initially,with having to uproot his kids in schools midsemester of a season.
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Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 11:03:08 PM »

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Eddie was playing behind RR, but also with him as a SG. Tony took most of those minutes. Nate got the scraps. Overall I've been very happy with that change and prefer 2010 Nate over 2010 Eddie.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 06:39:18 PM »

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Definitely Eddie. Hands down.

Nate provided that spark last night which was fantastic.

Eddie would have provided sustained energy and scoring throughout each of the series PLUS would have been able to give Rondo more of a break than Nate could, given that he knew the rotations and knew how to play playoff basketball.

It wasn't a great trade but last night it obviously paid off. Hard to say that Eddie wouldn't have had at least one breakthrough game so far this post-season.

Eddie.
I like how you assume Eddie can do this and Eddie can do that. The Eddie of 2010 is not the Eddie of 2008. Eddie was an undersized player who got by with minimal talent and heart. He was always on borrowed time.

Eddie got older and slower. He had major trouble bringing the ball up and handling it in 2009 and it got worse in 2010. If Eddie were still around Tony Allen or Paul would have to bring the ball up which messes us up and drains those players. So the idea he could replace Rondo is silly. He is not a PG at this point. If the 2010 Slow Eddie is out there instead of Rondo we would be in HUGE trouble. But not with an actual PG in Nate.

Nate is statistically just as good a 3pt% shooter as Eddie. But Nate can run the point. Nate can bring the ball up. Nate can guard his man unlike Eddie. Nate is also a streak scorer like Eddie. But unlike Eddie, he doesn't live and die with the 3pt shot. He can score from anywhere on the floor.

Danny Ainge knew exactly what he was doing. He got rid of a non-PG who is obviously not the same player and brought in a player with speed and energy that could help him. I know celticsblog obsesses over former Celtic players, but now we can see this was the correct move. Make moves with your head and not your heart.

Oh, and it seemed Nate knows how to play playoff basketball. Ask the Magic. Nate earned his Celtic stripes.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 06:52:58 PM »

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Even though Nate had been in the dochouse, I'd still much rather have Nate than Eddie.  Eddie is a liability in several areas.  Nate is much more well rounded and is not all that much worse of a shooter than Eddie.  I was never a fan of a 6 foot guy who can't play point guard.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 10:06:07 PM »

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I never understood the people who said, the trade sucked, because Nate couldnt crack Doc's postseason rotation.

Well, would Eddie have made the rotation either, seeing as how Tony Allen playing phenomenal (most games), and Rondo playing about 45-46 minutes a game?

I'd rather have Nate over Eddie based off of athleticism.  Now if only Nate can continue to develop the heart that Eddie had.

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 10:39:57 PM »

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Definitely Eddie. Hands down.

Nate provided that spark last night which was fantastic.

Eddie would have provided sustained energy and scoring throughout each of the series PLUS would have been able to give Rondo more of a break than Nate could, given that he knew the rotations and knew how to play playoff basketball.

It wasn't a great trade but last night it obviously paid off. Hard to say that Eddie wouldn't have had at least one breakthrough game so far this post-season.

Eddie.

No, eddie would have gotten the exact same minutes

Rondo playing extended minutes and TA's high level of play pretty much obliterated the need for a undersized SG.

It's why Nate wasen't playing till the injury, and it would have been the exact same for eddie.

Also, Nate played better defense last night that Eddie did in his entire time here.

I love eddie to death, but if the question is simply: who is the better player?

IT's nate, hands down.

Eddie provides energy and knock down shooting.

NAte provides all that, is actually quick enough laterally to play defense, albeit from a very undersized player, can create his own shot, and can get in the lane and dish. He's also a decent rebounder due to his athleticism.

but it's really immaterial, our minutes slots for an undersized PG/SG will remain limited, barring another injury to rondo.

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Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2010, 01:28:31 AM »

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I love Eddie and appreciate all he gave to our team.

That said...it was downright painful to watch him play sometimes. I think people forget how often it took almost a full 8 seconds to get it across half court.
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Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2010, 03:22:14 AM »

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Problem (or positive if you look at it in another light) is if we had swept the Magic we would have never known if Nate could be productive and contribute in a playoff win.

Eddie would have been playing throughout the playoffs (if he was healthy).

Re: Eddie House vs Nate Robinson
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2010, 07:16:45 AM »

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Both possess explosiveness and energy. At times, their presence in the playing court could change the tempo of the game. However, Nate has more skills and athleticism and is more talented. House has a lot of deficiencies in the ballhandling and playmaking areas of basketball.

Now if the question is raised on who's gonna play between them if Rajon is down or needs a rest, it's gonna be Nate. I would have a lot of confidence with him on the court directing plays and knocking down shots when needed.