Nate Effect on Off Season Value Based on Game 6

[Vermont Green]

I saw some other threads on Nate but I am curious to hear thoughts on this particular aspect.  In my mind, Nate showed himself to be someone who stayed ready on the bench, not pouting, and performing when he got the chance.  He also played defense, passed very well, and jacked up shots. Really impressive! (+$)

He also pranced around and showboated in the middle of the game (much the same but different than what Howard did a few games ago).  In my mind, this was not the time or the place for any of it.  (-$)

So I loved part of what I saw but there was also a display of serious immaturity or whatever that is what ultimately brings Nate down and as limited his ability to fulfill his full potential thoughout his career.

I expect we will see more of Nate in the finals.  I hope he can keep it going.

Thoughts?

[PosImpos]

"Hey, remember that one game where I scored 13 points in a quarter?  How about you give me $4 million a year for the next 3 years?"

Yeah, I think I'll pass.  I'm very thankful for Nate and what he did for us in Game 6, but I imagine he'll want to go to a team that will pay him more and play him more significant minutes.  Rondo is going to be playing 35+ mpg for the foreseeable future (*knock on wood*).  To be fair to Nate, he deserves to be playing more than 10-15 minutes a night.

I'd rather hold onto TA and then sign an Anthony Carter type as Rondo's backup.

[Vermont Green]

I was not looking at this purely from the Celtics point of view and whether or not they would resign them.  I was thinking more of a league prespective.

[jr_3421]

There will a borderline team that thinks spark like Nate will put them over the top. Hey someone gave Marcus banks a contract..

[CoachBo]

Teams don't make decisions based on a piece of one game.

[jr_3421]

Teams don't make decisions based on a piece of one game.

But it's not like this was his first good game. People know that Nate can score in bunches.

[BballTim]

I saw some other threads on Nate but I am curious to hear thoughts on this particular aspect.  In my mind, Nate showed himself to be someone who stayed ready on the bench, not pouting, and performing when he got the chance.  He also played defense, passed very well, and jacked up shots. Really impressive! (+$)

He also pranced around and showboated in the middle of the game (much the same but different than what Howard did a few games ago).  In my mind, this was not the time or the place for any of it.  (-$)

So I loved part of what I saw but there was also a display of serious immaturity or whatever that is what ultimately brings Nate down and as limited his ability to fulfill his full potential thoughout his career.

I expect we will see more of Nate in the finals.  I hope he can keep it going.

Thoughts?

  There was nothing eye-opening about Nate's performance. No GM in the league would have been surprised by what they saw as he's clearly capable of doing that on occasion.

[ibby]

"Hey, remember that one game where I scored 13 points in a quarter?  How about you give me
Yeah, I think I'll pass.  I'm very thankful for Nate and what he did for us in Game 6, but I imagine he'll want to go to a team that will pay him more and play him more significant minutes.  Rondo is going to be playing 35+ mpg for the foreseeable future (*knock on wood*).  To be fair to NatYe, he deserves to be playing more than 10-15 minutes a night.

I'd rather hold onto TA and then sign an Anthony Carter type as Rondo's backup.

well stated, plus Nate has a history of trouble with coaches (Larry Brown and D'Antoni both had issues with him), immaturity, and don't forget about the Nuggets-Knicks brawl which he was a big part of. To use a cliche he is who everyone thought he was.

On the other hand I'm sure someone will give him a chance to come off the bench for too much money.  After all, if Jamal Crawford can turn it around anyone can.

[Change]

The guy averaged 17.2ppg in one season, so obviously he's not a scrub. Playing for the best defensive team in the NBA, should earn him some point. A team will sign him to fill a Jamal Crawford type of role.

[wdleehi]

My brother (the Knicks fan) said be prepared to see him just jacking up shots next game whether or not he is hot.


He said he has seen the good games (like yesterday) before.  Nate's problem is that he follows them up with selfish shot jacking games.



I am hoping he will break that habit now that he is on the Celtics. 



But I see no reason that his contract value has gone up yet.

[CoachBo]

Teams don't make decisions based on a piece of one game.

But it's not like this was his first good game. People know that Nate can score in bunches.

There's a LOT more to the pro game than scoring.

[Vermont Green]

Teams don't make decisions based on a piece of one game.

I agree but I think you are missing the point.  The good things he showed in Game 6 were not really as much about ability as it was about mind set.  Very few NBA players in his situation (a pretty good player sitting on the bench) could come in with the attitude that he did.  He wasn't a cancer, he didn't create problems; he just waited, stayed ready, and then when his time came, he did everything that his coach told him to do.  In a way that doesn't seem like that much but in reality, especailly for Nate, that is a lot.

So if this means that in the future he will accept his role, work hard and listen to his coach, than that means way more than whether he hit a few 3's or not.  Maybe this means Nate finally grew up and figured it out.

But then he ran around the court showboating (or whatever you want to call it) and that makes me stop and wonder, maybe he doesn't and never will get it

[nickagneta]

I don't think Nate has either increased or decreased his value. After five years the book is pretty much written on you and your value set. Market fluctuations and supply and demand will ultimately cause players salaries to be higher or lower than what his value is at the time of his signing, but his value is set and nothing he did last night or will do in the Finals is going to change that.

He's coming out in a bad year and a good year. Bad in that the market will have a glut of talent that will probably keep a team from overspending for him but also a good year because hopefully the contract he signs will be CBA protected against devaluation and  because of the amount of teams with money to spend someone will spend it on him.

I can definitely see someone giving him a 3 year $9-12 million deal. And I don't think that's going to change based on anything he has done or will do in these playoffs.

[Q_FBE]

Maybe Nate Robinson's 2nd quarter can be this year's Glen McDonald - an obscure role player who made a one time contribution that helped the Celtics win a game. I think some team will overpay him but it won't be Boston.

[Junkyard Dawg]

I think it's like the commentators during the game were saying, the change for Nate is going to be more for his own benefit.  Playing on a winning team, seeing how guys play defense, etc. might help him develop as a player... I don't think it's going to be a situation like Marbury's, where people know he may still be able to score but nobody wants to take a chance on him because he's too old and too set in his ways.