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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2010, 12:47:48 AM »

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Are the Magic any better off for the poor officiating?  They cannot say for sure that they "won" the game, and never will be able to say it.  

IMHO the referees have flat out lost control of this game.  Celtics get technicals while Breen says every elbow from Howard was "certainly unintentional."  How many C's need to get injured in this travesty?

I suggest that if the Magic win the NBA needs to rescind the result and let the game be replayed with some referees who will keep composure and control of the game.  


nba will not rescind because this is exactly what they wanted. even vinnie, the only person on the planet who feels nba refs do a good job, would have to question tonite's travesty. joey crawford and eddie f rush did the job they were given by stern tonite....as one sided of an officiating job as i have ever seen.

This game was poorly officiated. Both of the T's should be rescinded, and at least one will. However, Perkins is such a hot head, he will end up getting his 7th soon enough.

Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 12:54:13 AM »

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The refs aren't going to be able to call a perfect game everytime....bad calls go both ways...you'll benefit at times and at times you will be at the receiving end...that said, all the folks here who are trying to defend the refs tonight, I have something to say to you...

SHAME ON YOU!
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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 12:59:01 AM »

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I turned this game off at half time. You could see it was fixed from the get go. I watched Karate Kid two with my 5 year old son. The movie had a more surprising out come than that game. 

Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 12:59:13 AM »

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It's always enlightening how unnoticed the officials go when the Celtics are executing at all on either end of the floor, which they weren't tonight.

I agree. The officiating wasn't good.

Neither were the Celtics, and the fault for that lies with each one of them.

Doesn't matter who officiates Friday night. We could run Jeff, Hobbs and Green 17 out there and if we don't defend, move the basketball and rebound, we're going to lose.

The defense is the big thing. If we don't get back to treating every possession like gold, and every screen as something to get through, we're done winning this season. Period.
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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 01:02:25 AM »

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I'm not saying the ref's lost this game. They didn't. What I would say is they took us out of this game to a degree, not allowing the defense we have played so far in this series to go. But that was not called both ways. The Magic were allowed to be more physical. This DID NOT lose us the game. Bad D did. But to say it had no effect is a little iffy. Even if they rescind Perk's T's, which they should, it doesn't take away the fact that our best one-on-one defender on Howard was taken out of the game in the first half under specious means to say the least.

Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2010, 01:11:45 AM »

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It's always enlightening how unnoticed the officials go when the Celtics are executing at all on either end of the floor, which they weren't tonight.

I agree. The officiating wasn't good.

Neither were the Celtics, and the fault for that lies with each one of them.

Doesn't matter who officiates Friday night. We could run Jeff, Hobbs and Green 17 out there and if we don't defend, move the basketball and rebound, we're going to lose.

The defense is the big thing. If we don't get back to treating every possession like gold, and every screen as something to get through, we're done winning this season. Period.

They never go unnoticed...we just don't debate the bad calls as much...nobody here is blaming the loss entirely on the officiating(and if they are then they are wrong)...we could have and should have played better...so, get off your "I'm rational" horse and let people vent...players on our team got injured by "Thank God" elbow....let people vent...a coach should know that.
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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2010, 01:16:11 AM »

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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2010, 01:38:28 AM »

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Best I can find for NBA contact info -- let someone know how you feel about the game, even if it is their outsourced customer support in somewhere like the Phillipines.  If someone has a better way to make our feelings known please post it.

http://www.nba.com/email_us/contact_us.html

Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2010, 01:43:26 AM »

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Dear Bree,

Thank you for contacting the National Basketball Association with your concerns regarding officiating. The NBA’s highest priority is to ensure that every game is determined on its merits, thus providing its fans with a truly fair and competitive league.

We take seriously the performance of our officials. They are subjected to incredible scrutiny by the league, including tracking every call they make and holding them to the most rigorous standard in all of sports. Not only is their past performance measured, charted, and evaluated, but we employ a system of stringent metrics designed to continually hone their skills and improve their overall ability. We strive to ensure that NBA games are officiated at the highest possible level with the understanding that perfection is an unattainable goal.

Thank you again for your concern. We appreciate your feedback regarding this issue.

Sincerely,

NBA Fan Relations

See this is why the league has no credibility with me anymore. There's no way the officiating is held to any meaningful standard much less the rigorous scrutiny they claim it is. They can't get every call right I understand that but some of the miscues go far beyond human error IMO and seem to have no repercussions.
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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2010, 01:50:55 AM »

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Dear Bree,

Thank you for contacting the National Basketball Association with your concerns regarding officiating. The NBA’s highest priority is to ensure that every game is determined on its merits, thus providing its fans with a truly fair and competitive league.

We take seriously the performance of our officials. They are subjected to incredible scrutiny by the league, including tracking every call they make and holding them to the most rigorous standard in all of sports. Not only is their past performance measured, charted, and evaluated, but we employ a system of stringent metrics designed to continually hone their skills and improve their overall ability. We strive to ensure that NBA games are officiated at the highest possible level with the understanding that perfection is an unattainable goal.

Thank you again for your concern. We appreciate your feedback regarding this issue.

Sincerely,

NBA Fan Relations

See this is why the league has no credibility with me anymore. There's no way the officiating is held to any meaningful standard much less the rigorous scrutiny they claim it is. They can't get every call right I understand that but some of the miscues go far beyond human error IMO and seem to have no repercussions.

I spent some time as a soccer referee and will give refs a lot of slack.  Tonight they lost control of themselves and the game.  Funny though, I wonder who the NBA thinks they are kidding with that response?

Haven't received a response yet myself, but I chose to comment on my "game experience" instead of "officiating."  My guess is that really no one human will read any of our comments unless there's a significant blip in their webstats.

Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2010, 02:32:00 AM »

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Dear Bree,

Thank you for contacting the National Basketball Association with your concerns regarding officiating. The NBA’s highest priority is to ensure that every game is determined on its merits, thus providing its fans with a truly fair and competitive league.

We take seriously the performance of our officials. They are subjected to incredible scrutiny by the league, including tracking every call they make and holding them to the most rigorous standard in all of sports. Not only is their past performance measured, charted, and evaluated, but we employ a system of stringent metrics designed to continually hone their skills and improve their overall ability. We strive to ensure that NBA games are officiated at the highest possible level with the understanding that perfection is an unattainable goal.

Thank you again for your concern. We appreciate your feedback regarding this issue.

Sincerely,

NBA Fan Relations

See this is why the league has no credibility with me anymore. There's no way the officiating is held to any meaningful standard much less the rigorous scrutiny they claim it is. They can't get every call right I understand that but some of the miscues go far beyond human error IMO and seem to have no repercussions.

I spent some time as a soccer referee and will give refs a lot of slack.  Tonight they lost control of themselves and the game.  Funny though, I wonder who the NBA thinks they are kidding with that response?

Haven't received a response yet myself, but I chose to comment on my "game experience" instead of "officiating."  My guess is that really no one human will read any of our comments unless there's a significant blip in their webstats.

Good idea. I'll try that but yeah I really doubt anyone is actually reading our e-mails.  I agree definitely a very poor even by their low their standards night tonight. Rescinding Perk's Ts really won't make it up to us for how the game played out. But the good thing is unlike poor Brent Barry and the 2002 Kings we're still in this series and can win it. Then this game won't be so painful when we look back on it.

You were a soccer ref?! Now we can't be friends anymore :P
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Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2010, 02:35:59 AM »

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Dear Bree,

Thank you for contacting the National Basketball Association with your concerns regarding officiating. The NBA’s highest priority is to ensure that every game is determined on its merits, thus providing its fans with a truly fair and competitive league.

We take seriously the performance of our officials. They are subjected to incredible scrutiny by the league, including tracking every call they make and holding them to the most rigorous standard in all of sports. Not only is their past performance measured, charted, and evaluated, but we employ a system of stringent metrics designed to continually hone their skills and improve their overall ability. We strive to ensure that NBA games are officiated at the highest possible level with the understanding that perfection is an unattainable goal.

Thank you again for your concern. We appreciate your feedback regarding this issue.

Sincerely,

NBA Fan Relations

See this is why the league has no credibility with me anymore. There's no way the officiating is held to any meaningful standard much less the rigorous scrutiny they claim it is. They can't get every call right I understand that but some of the miscues go far beyond human error IMO and seem to have no repercussions.

I spent some time as a soccer referee and will give refs a lot of slack.  Tonight they lost control of themselves and the game.  Funny though, I wonder who the NBA thinks they are kidding with that response?

Haven't received a response yet myself, but I chose to comment on my "game experience" instead of "officiating."  My guess is that really no one human will read any of our comments unless there's a significant blip in their webstats.

Good idea. I'll try that but yeah I really doubt anyone is actually reading our e-mails.  I agree definitely a very poor even by their low their standards night tonight. Rescinding Perk's Ts really won't make it up to us for how the game played out. But the good thing is unlike poor Brent Barry and the 2002 Kings we're still in this series and can win it. Then this game won't be so painful when we look back on it.

You were a soccer ref?! Now we can't be friends anymore :P

I wonder if a call to the league office, with a (very smart) focus on fan experience is the way to go. It's not like it's hard to track down the general number in NYC.

Re: Tainted Result - Game 5
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2010, 03:48:52 AM »

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Dear Bree,

Thank you for contacting the National Basketball Association with your concerns regarding officiating. The NBA’s highest priority is to ensure that every game is determined on its merits, thus providing its fans with a truly fair and competitive league.

We take seriously the performance of our officials. They are subjected to incredible scrutiny by the league, including tracking every call they make and holding them to the most rigorous standard in all of sports. Not only is their past performance measured, charted, and evaluated, but we employ a system of stringent metrics designed to continually hone their skills and improve their overall ability. We strive to ensure that NBA games are officiated at the highest possible level with the understanding that perfection is an unattainable goal.

Thank you again for your concern. We appreciate your feedback regarding this issue.

Sincerely,

NBA Fan Relations

See this is why the league has no credibility with me anymore. There's no way the officiating is held to any meaningful standard much less the rigorous scrutiny they claim it is. They can't get every call right I understand that but some of the miscues go far beyond human error IMO and seem to have no repercussions.

I spent some time as a soccer referee and will give refs a lot of slack.  Tonight they lost control of themselves and the game.  Funny though, I wonder who the NBA thinks they are kidding with that response?

Haven't received a response yet myself, but I chose to comment on my "game experience" instead of "officiating."  My guess is that really no one human will read any of our comments unless there's a significant blip in their webstats.

Good idea. I'll try that but yeah I really doubt anyone is actually reading our e-mails.  I agree definitely a very poor even by their low their standards night tonight. Rescinding Perk's Ts really won't make it up to us for how the game played out. But the good thing is unlike poor Brent Barry and the 2002 Kings we're still in this series and can win it. Then this game won't be so painful when we look back on it.

You were a soccer ref?! Now we can't be friends anymore :P

You mean Jon Berry