I wish we had House

[Rondo_is_better]

I don't care. TA has played far better during these playoffs than Eddie played all year.

[tenn_smoothie]

yeah, but eddie would be a big plus over nate robinson who has contributed 0 in the playoffs.

[Dybdal]

yeah, but eddie would be a big plus over nate robinson who has contributed 0 in the playoffs.

This is the kind of thinking i think (thinking in the second dimension ) is absolutly wrong.

Nate is not playing because our spacing issue that we had last year is being covered by Rasheed and Finley, he is just as good a player as Eddie House is and brings alot more from a playoff basketball perspective than House does.. and i think quite honnestly that if (and this is a BIG if) eddie house was still here you would not have seen Tony Allen blooming into the player we all knew he could have been last year.

Ofcourse the thinking was not to bring in Krypto-Nate to sit on the bench for the stretch run but i think the entire organisation was in full fledged panic mode when he was brought in but and here's where most people will most likely call me utterly insane. Him comming in to take Eddie Houses position has forced Doc Rivers to play Tony Allen more than he wanted to and THAT was exactly what tony allen needed..

It all boils down to addition by subtration, House is not here thus we gained more minutes and more trust to Tony Allen.

And is there anyone here who would really want Eddie House out there trying to guard any of the point guards we have faced so far? and would you honnestly bench Tony Allen?

[Change]

yeah, but eddie would be a big plus over nate robinson who has contributed 0 in the playoffs.

Without a question, Nate is the better player. Its not about Nate Vs. House. But the subtraction of House allowed the Celtics to have a shutdown defender/slasher to balance out the 3point Shooters. It literally forced Doc's hand to play Tony, and the team is better for it. Celtics didn't lose any shooting. But gained tremendously on defense and easy baskets at the rim. The balance right now is perfect, and the team is much deeper.

[xmuscularghandix]

yeah, but eddie would be a big plus over nate robinson who has contributed 0 in the playoffs.

Without a question, Nate is the better player. Its not about Nate Vs. House. But the subtraction of House allowed the Celtics to have a shutdown defender/slasher to balance out the 3point Shooters. It literally forced Doc's hand to play Tony, and the team is better for it. Celtics didn't lose any shooting. But gained tremendously on defense and easy baskets at the rim. The balance right now is perfect, and the team is much deeper.

Plus we have Finley to spread the floor in closing time.

[LB3533]

Nate is the better player and I do believe Nate has a lot to offer the C's, he's just joined the team at the wrong time. Nate's not in a very good situation, not knowing our schemes on offense or defense.

If you don't know where you are supposed to be on defense, you ain't gonna play.

House new the play book, he'd be playing in these playoffs.

Even if House wasn't playing, the trade was still poor because you give up two young guys that you had contractual control over.

After this season Nate can walk and we get nothing from the deal. (Owners can save some cash?)

[Mike-Dub]

ya but nate isnt playing eddie would be

And you know this how?

[LooseCannon]

I think that trading Eddie House was made more with an eye on the long-term rather than short-term.  For this season, the trade was potentially a wash, but Ainge would have more options for the future.

If Nate Robinson has played well, the Celtics would have had the non-Bird exception and could re-sign him for a contract over the vet minimum without dipping into the MLE.

Regardless of how Nate plays, I think Boston can still do a sign-and-trade with Robinson, which means that a team that wants to do some creative salary cap finessing may want to acquire him in a way that doesn't use any cap exceptions, the way Ainge fruitlessly sought to get Marquis Daniels without using the biannual exception.

If Nate Robinson doesn't play well, then Boston isn't tied to him beyond this season and can wave goodbye.

The trade didn't do much to make Boston a better team for this season, but it did give the Celtics a better chance at getting younger (Nate is 26, House 32) and more athletic, either by Robinson showing himself to be a valuable bench player or by upgrading the trade assets in Ainge's arsenal.  I think it was a reasonable gamble.

[j804]

But then we wouldnt have a cheerleader on our bench! 

[LB3533]

ya but nate isnt playing eddie would be

And you know this how?

House played last year in the playoffs, and particular well against Orlando.

[Mike-Dub]

ya but nate isnt playing eddie would be

And you know this how?

House played last year in the playoffs, and particular well against Orlando.

That's last year, this is this year.  House was not playing well this season and his defense had dropped when it was bad in the first place.  With shortened rotations in the playoffs I just don't know if House would have been in the rotation. 

The thing is though like you said he did play in the playoffs last year and in '08 and he had gotten it done in the past and had proven himself, but I think he's fallen off to much to be on our playoff rotation this year if he was still here.

This is mostly just speculation and "What If" and right now we have Nate Rob and even though he isn't playing at all our team is playing darn good right now and I'm pretty satisfied right now but we still got a long way to go to achieve our ultimate goal.

[scootman]

in the sense he knows the defensive plays and nate obviously needs time to learn them. knicks didnt have to play defense so its a hard adjustment going from a team that plays no defense, to a team that is all about defense.