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Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2010, 10:18:02 PM »

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1) We dont have a back up point guard deserving playoff minutes

2) No one else on the team can run the offense like Rondo can

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2010, 10:44:24 PM »

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1) We dont have a back up point guard deserving playoff minutes

2) No one else on the team can run the offense like Rondo can
True, but it wouldn't hurt to give Nate a minute or two to see if he's on or off. On some nights his ball hog mood can help.

Instead of 45 minutes, Rondo can have fresher legs in the end with let's say 40.
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Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2010, 10:52:48 PM »

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It's called Rondo is only 24  ::)
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Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2010, 10:54:01 PM »

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In the last 6mins, I don't think Rondo had the legs to 1)keep up with JNelson 2)be agressive offensively and push the ball

Why couldn't Doc find some mins to rest Rondo when we were 18pts up?   :o

Doc needs to manage Rondo's mins better.

It's the playoffs. If that lead was given up with Rondo on the bench you'd be posting about how he screwed up by not playing him.

Kid is 24 years old and the best player on either team... he's gonna be logging some time.

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2010, 11:02:31 PM »

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Its called youth.  Got all summer to rest.

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2010, 11:29:16 PM »

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Totally disagree with that. Totally.

Robinson is a bad fit for the Celtics - nothing but a midget jumpshooter who doesn't play a second of defense.

And you forget three things: House knows the system. House can knock down the perimeter shot. And Bill Walker was included in the deal.

Today, this one looks like Ainge's worst trade since the move for Sebustian Tellfailure.

Funny how a former defensive back is unable to stay in front of a player. He has the ability to play D, he just doesn't want to.

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2010, 11:58:23 PM »

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Keep in mind all of the days off in the playoffs, and much less travel. Just about any young (or fit) player can manage 40 min because they will get plenty of rest in between games.

You can still debate how exactly to manage his minutes, but I don't really see a viable alternative. 4th quarter problems aren't just due to fatigue, and the potential problems of playing anyone else at the point for extended minutes are at least as bad.

I think the only way Rondo plays < 40 min in the playoffs are:

1) Forced by foul trouble
2) Bench makes a run and buys him some extra time
3) Huge blowout

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2010, 12:00:05 AM »

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There is clearly a correlation between the inability of the C'c to close out games that they build early leads in and Rondo's minutes. He is a very different player in the final quarter. He plays at a completely different speed and intensity. Yes he can play 48 min.; but not effectively.

Play Tony or Play Marquis Daniels - whatever happened to that experiment? Yes you could play Nate; but Tony should get minutes before Nate.


Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2010, 12:46:34 AM »

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There is clearly a correlation between the inability of the C'c to close out games that they build early leads in and Rondo's minutes. He is a very different player in the final quarter. He plays at a completely different speed and intensity. Yes he can play 48 min.; but not effectively.

I disagree - Rondo didn't change, but the scheme did.  The Celtics started trying to play the clock, so Rondo stopped being aggressive. 

I've never liked the conservative approach that many coaches take when they have a lead in the fourth quarter - in basketball or football.  Why would you go away from the strategy that built the lead for you in the first place?

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2010, 01:14:53 AM »

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There is clearly a correlation between the inability of the C'c to close out games that they build early leads in and Rondo's minutes. He is a very different player in the final quarter. He plays at a completely different speed and intensity. Yes he can play 48 min.; but not effectively.

Play Tony or Play Marquis Daniels - whatever happened to that experiment? Yes you could play Nate; but Tony should get minutes before Nate.


Prove it, because it isn't clear to many of us. Give us evidence that we close out games better when he plays less minutes. Cherry picking games won't be enough.

Usually I would require such a level of proof, but since you said "clearly", you need to back this up.

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2010, 01:38:11 AM »

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There is clearly a correlation between the inability of the C'c to close out games that they build early leads in and Rondo's minutes. He is a very different player in the final quarter. He plays at a completely different speed and intensity. Yes he can play 48 min.; but not effectively.

Play Tony or Play Marquis Daniels - whatever happened to that experiment? Yes you could play Nate; but Tony should get minutes before Nate.


Prove it, because it isn't clear to many of us. Give us evidence that we close out games better when he plays less minutes. Cherry picking games won't be enough.

Usually I would require such a level of proof, but since you said "clearly", you need to back this up.

Agree with you. Rondo's 4th quarter issues are the same he's had all his career, and he used to play much less.

With that said, he has looked a bit tired at times... that's not to say that it's tiredness that has affected his play, but it's a factor in all. I don't know where the balance since he really should be playing a lot of minutes, and you would like him pressing full court the whole game, plus pushing the ball on offense.

In my opinion, it would be beneficial to find extra time to rest him. And this has been one of my main complaints about Doc, he doesn't seem to find ways to give players extra rest during the game, like real world minutes, while minimizing the amount of game time that passes.

If you want to maximize Rondo, he should find time to rest him before end of quarters, during time-outs, etc.

In all, Rondo is quite capable of handling the load, and he's performing and the consistency has been there. Still, I think there's room to maximize Rondo's energy. Even so, I'm not convinced that Rondo would play any different even if he had more energy.
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Doc should give Robinson some mins
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2010, 03:14:58 AM »

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I think he should at least give Nate like 4-5 mins a game and buy time for Rondo this way RA and PP dont have to play 40 mins a game and Rondo wouldn't have to play 46 mins a game which is lethal in the finals!

Re: What's up with RRondo excesive minutes?
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2010, 03:19:35 AM »

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Yea id cut Rondo's mins to like 42 or 43 a game. I think Nate could come in and stretc the floor with his shooting and run the offense in some stretches and i also think Daniels could do that for like 4 or 5 mins a game without a problem but playing Rondo for so long is gonna bite us in the butt in the finals!

Eddie House would have been a spark off the bench and we would have manhandled teams :<

Re: Doc should give Robinson some mins
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2010, 03:37:28 AM »

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Re: Doc should give Robinson some mins
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2010, 04:08:50 AM »

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