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"Suns are a hard matchup - the C's have been imposing their will on teams, Suns will be a hard team to do that to."Sorry Suns are going to lose big time. 4-0, 4-1"I don't think that LA did anything during the season to show that they were better than Cleveland, Orlando or us."Ah we didnt do much during the regular season either. Kinda obvious the postseason is a differnt game. They are the champs untill we beat them they are still the champs. So I really dont get your rational.?
Lakers do not have the heart of a champion! Last year was a contract year for both Ariza and Odom; both men played their hearts out. Now, Ariza's got a cushy contract in Houston and Odom's back to his usual non-contributing self.The real champs were the Celtics and they were missing it in '09, due to the KG/Powe knee, Starbury curse, and Mikki *no* Moore. Thus, due to karma, we're not looking at a threepeat today.Now, those ailments are gone and Operation Fo' Fo' Fo' in in effect!
I'm getting the same feeling. I can't present x's and o's and things of that sort, but i do know what a championship calibur team looks like. This Celtic team appears as though they're poised to win it all. It's also good to know that we have not lost a playoff series yet when everybody is healthy.
Quote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:04:23 PMQuote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 12:55:05 PMThere's not a team out there that can beat us if we play like we did in the Cleveland series.LA is a much much better team than Cleveland or Orlando. Sure we beat them in 08 but that was without Bynum or Artest. They match up equal to us in length and depth in the frontcourt. They have Artest to defend Pierce and still have the four time champ Kobe.We will not be able to shut them out defensivly like we did the Cavs. That said I still like our chances. Go Celtics.I think you're overrating the Lakers.
Quote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 12:55:05 PMThere's not a team out there that can beat us if we play like we did in the Cleveland series.LA is a much much better team than Cleveland or Orlando. Sure we beat them in 08 but that was without Bynum or Artest. They match up equal to us in length and depth in the frontcourt. They have Artest to defend Pierce and still have the four time champ Kobe.We will not be able to shut them out defensivly like we did the Cavs. That said I still like our chances. Go Celtics.
There's not a team out there that can beat us if we play like we did in the Cleveland series.
Quote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:49:26 PM"Suns are a hard matchup - the C's have been imposing their will on teams, Suns will be a hard team to do that to."Sorry Suns are going to lose big time. 4-0, 4-1"I don't think that LA did anything during the season to show that they were better than Cleveland, Orlando or us."Ah we didnt do much during the regular season either. Kinda obvious the postseason is a differnt game. They are the champs untill we beat them they are still the champs. So I really dont get your rational.? I don't get yours either. Are you saying that they're much better than Orlando or Cleveland simply because they won the title last year?
Quote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:12:59 PMQuote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 01:06:07 PMQuote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:04:23 PMQuote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 12:55:05 PMThere's not a team out there that can beat us if we play like we did in the Cleveland series.LA is a much much better team than Cleveland or Orlando. Sure we beat them in 08 but that was without Bynum or Artest. They match up equal to us in length and depth in the frontcourt. They have Artest to defend Pierce and still have the four time champ Kobe.We will not be able to shut them out defensivly like we did the Cavs. That said I still like our chances. Go Celtics.I think you're overrating the Lakers. Nah. You ever see that NBA promo where Pierce keeps saying "We never give up" " We never give in" "Never underestimate the heart of a champion"?Well the Lakers are still the champs. They have made the finals the last two consecutive years. You cant overrate the champions. Everyone in Cleveland is realizing that this morning. I don't think that LA did anything during the season to show that they were better than Cleveland, Orlando or us. Plus, if you're going to talk about matchups vs the Lakers, don't forget Rondo/Fisher. That's likely the most lopsided matchup in the series.
Quote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 01:06:07 PMQuote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:04:23 PMQuote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 12:55:05 PMThere's not a team out there that can beat us if we play like we did in the Cleveland series.LA is a much much better team than Cleveland or Orlando. Sure we beat them in 08 but that was without Bynum or Artest. They match up equal to us in length and depth in the frontcourt. They have Artest to defend Pierce and still have the four time champ Kobe.We will not be able to shut them out defensivly like we did the Cavs. That said I still like our chances. Go Celtics.I think you're overrating the Lakers. Nah. You ever see that NBA promo where Pierce keeps saying "We never give up" " We never give in" "Never underestimate the heart of a champion"?Well the Lakers are still the champs. They have made the finals the last two consecutive years. You cant overrate the champions. Everyone in Cleveland is realizing that this morning.
Quote from: BballTim on May 14, 2010, 01:40:57 PMQuote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:12:59 PMQuote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 01:06:07 PMQuote from: FatjohnReturns on May 14, 2010, 01:04:23 PMQuote from: Roy Hobbs on May 14, 2010, 12:55:05 PMThere's not a team out there that can beat us if we play like we did in the Cleveland series.LA is a much much better team than Cleveland or Orlando. Sure we beat them in 08 but that was without Bynum or Artest. They match up equal to us in length and depth in the frontcourt. They have Artest to defend Pierce and still have the four time champ Kobe.We will not be able to shut them out defensivly like we did the Cavs. That said I still like our chances. Go Celtics.I think you're overrating the Lakers. Nah. You ever see that NBA promo where Pierce keeps saying "We never give up" " We never give in" "Never underestimate the heart of a champion"?Well the Lakers are still the champs. They have made the finals the last two consecutive years. You cant overrate the champions. Everyone in Cleveland is realizing that this morning. I don't think that LA did anything during the season to show that they were better than Cleveland, Orlando or us. Plus, if you're going to talk about matchups vs the Lakers, don't forget Rondo/Fisher. That's likely the most lopsided matchup in the series.Yes but Kobe guards Rondo and Fisher does an okay job on Ray.
I don't think LAL is better than ORL or CLE.In terms of the CLE team the Celts beat - maybe that team was built for the regular season and not the post season. A lot of turn over, an over reliance on one guy to get his offense (Hollinger had an article about this w/r/t Roy and JJ) - no backup star, just a cast of good bench players. I can buy that this type of setup translates poorly to the post season generally - but they still were that same team from the regular season. Gotta give some credit to the C's who appear to have turned things up since game 82.LAL's Bynum has some sort of knee injury and Artest is VASTLY overrated at this point.... it's not like Ariza lit things up in HOU, but I think he was a better overall fit.Suns are a hard matchup - the C's have been imposing their will on teams, Suns will be a hard team to do that to.