Lil' Anderson Varejao Keeps Getting Hit

[Mr October]

Varejao so far has been limited. I dont think it is a function of his back though. He has looked like himself only we are crashing the glass and limiting his offensive rebounding which is his best quality IMO.

Yeah I don't think AV's back is that much of a factor. I don't see him moving in a limited back hurt kind of way. Perkins looks more beat up/hurt than AV.

Sure it could be part of why AV's productivity has dropped - but i think more credit needs to be maintained on the performance of KG, Wallace, Davis and Perkins. KG, Wallace and Davis in particular are playing at a higher level of energy now that we are in the playoffs.

They respect what AV's energy can do, and they are containing him. Job well done. These Celtics are far more dangerous than the regular season Celtics.

[Fafnir]

AV is a solid role player, with limited skills. An excellent energy guy. Like Glen Davis, if you underestimate him, he can can ignite his team with hustle plays. However if you give him lots of attention he gets exposed for being very average and very stoppable.

I forgot about the time when Wade jammed over and um into AV.

If you edit his skills to be limited offensive skills you'd be right on the money. I still think he's the second best player on the Cavs squad.

His sub-par play has removed one of my biggest worries heading into the series.

Yes AV has decent defensive skills. He does a solid job on KG - Cleveland's best matchup on KG in fact.

Likewise Davis also has decent defensive skills. I like what I have seen from him guarding Shaq.

AV and Davis are very similar to me. Even though one can do a little more on D and one can do a little more on O. Ultimately they are limited skill (or size) energy players.

I see AV as a souped up version of Davis. He can play either position and does most of the things Davis does better.

[Greenbean]

Varejau's back just tweeted that it is fine.

[Mr October]

AV is a solid role player, with limited skills. An excellent energy guy. Like Glen Davis, if you underestimate him, he can can ignite his team with hustle plays. However if you give him lots of attention he gets exposed for being very average and very stoppable.

I forgot about the time when Wade jammed over and um into AV.

If you edit his skills to be limited offensive skills you'd be right on the money. I still think he's the second best player on the Cavs squad.

His sub-par play has removed one of my biggest worries heading into the series.

Yes AV has decent defensive skills. He does a solid job on KG - Cleveland's best matchup on KG in fact.

Likewise Davis also has decent defensive skills. I like what I have seen from him guarding Shaq.

AV and Davis are very similar to me. Even though one can do a little more on D and one can do a little more on O. Ultimately they are limited skill (or size) energy players.

I see AV as a souped up version of Davis. He can play either position and does most of the things Davis does better.

Davis has a better outside shot, passing and ball handling skills. Davis also holds his own better when posted up by a true center.

Varejao is taller, and can do a better job at rebounding on both ends and blocking shots.

Screen setting is pretty similar.

Yes, AV is better than Davis, but he's still just a energy guy in the end. And that isn't a bad thing to be.

Do you agree that he is pretty much just a good energy guy? Its not like his defense is all NBA....

[Mr October]

AV is a solid role player, with limited skills. An excellent energy guy. Like Glen Davis, if you underestimate him, he can can ignite his team with hustle plays. However if you give him lots of attention he gets exposed for being very average and very stoppable.

I forgot about the time when Wade jammed over and um into AV.

If you edit his skills to be limited offensive skills you'd be right on the money. I still think he's the second best player on the Cavs squad.

His sub-par play has removed one of my biggest worries heading into the series.

Yes AV has decent defensive skills. He does a solid job on KG - Cleveland's best matchup on KG in fact.

Likewise Davis also has decent defensive skills. I like what I have seen from him guarding Shaq.

AV and Davis are very similar to me. Even though one can do a little more on D and one can do a little more on O. Ultimately they are limited skill (or size) energy players.

I see AV as a souped up version of Davis. He can play either position and does most of the things Davis does better.

Davis has a better outside shot, passing and ball handling skills. Davis also holds his own better when posted up by a true center.

Varejao is taller, and can do a better job at rebounding on both ends and blocking shots.

Screen setting is pretty similar.

Yes, AV is better than Davis, but he's still just a energy guy in the end. And that isn't a bad thing to be.

Do you agree that he is pretty much just a good energy guy? Its not like his defense is all NBA....

And to re-quote myself, I didn't say AV or Davis were equal. I indicated that they are similar and...

Like Glen Davis, if you underestimate him, he can can ignite his team with hustle plays. However if you give him lots of attention he gets exposed for being very average and very stoppable.

[wahz]

I agree with those above who feel we have benefitted from av's injuries and subpar play. I see him as much more athletic than Perk or Baby or Sheed, and can't really fathom who would think otherwise. He is faster, can jump higher and get back up repeatedly and is strong though not as strong as our three guys. Very glad he is struggling, and with Shaq complaining up a storm and Hickson being pretty solid, Andy's moments should stay limited hopefully

[Fafnir]

AV is a solid role player, with limited skills. An excellent energy guy. Like Glen Davis, if you underestimate him, he can can ignite his team with hustle plays. However if you give him lots of attention he gets exposed for being very average and very stoppable.

I forgot about the time when Wade jammed over and um into AV.

If you edit his skills to be limited offensive skills you'd be right on the money. I still think he's the second best player on the Cavs squad.

His sub-par play has removed one of my biggest worries heading into the series.

Yes AV has decent defensive skills. He does a solid job on KG - Cleveland's best matchup on KG in fact.

Likewise Davis also has decent defensive skills. I like what I have seen from him guarding Shaq.

AV and Davis are very similar to me. Even though one can do a little more on D and one can do a little more on O. Ultimately they are limited skill (or size) energy players.

I see AV as a souped up version of Davis. He can play either position and does most of the things Davis does better.

Davis has a better outside shot, passing and ball handling skills. Davis also holds his own better when posted up by a true center.

Varejao is taller, and can do a better job at rebounding on both ends and blocking shots.

Screen setting is pretty similar.

Yes, AV is better than Davis, but he's still just a energy guy in the end. And that isn't a bad thing to be.

Do you agree that he is pretty much just a good energy guy? Its not like his defense is all NBA....

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/05/05/all.defense/index.html

He is on the team, and the nod is well deserved. I'd also add that while Davis is a better play maker, AV is actually a more effective offensive player. He finishes better and is just the superior garbage man on offense.

That means his role is more limited than Davis, but he's much better at that role.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=CrMjP

[Mr October]

AV is a solid role player, with limited skills. An excellent energy guy. Like Glen Davis, if you underestimate him, he can can ignite his team with hustle plays. However if you give him lots of attention he gets exposed for being very average and very stoppable.

I forgot about the time when Wade jammed over and um into AV.

If you edit his skills to be limited offensive skills you'd be right on the money. I still think he's the second best player on the Cavs squad.

His sub-par play has removed one of my biggest worries heading into the series.

Yes AV has decent defensive skills. He does a solid job on KG - Cleveland's best matchup on KG in fact.

Likewise Davis also has decent defensive skills. I like what I have seen from him guarding Shaq.

AV and Davis are very similar to me. Even though one can do a little more on D and one can do a little more on O. Ultimately they are limited skill (or size) energy players.

I see AV as a souped up version of Davis. He can play either position and does most of the things Davis does better.

Davis has a better outside shot, passing and ball handling skills. Davis also holds his own better when posted up by a true center.

Varejao is taller, and can do a better job at rebounding on both ends and blocking shots.

Screen setting is pretty similar.

Yes, AV is better than Davis, but he's still just a energy guy in the end. And that isn't a bad thing to be.

Do you agree that he is pretty much just a good energy guy? Its not like his defense is all NBA....

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/05/05/all.defense/index.html

He is on the team, and the nod is well deserved.

Ha! Well, there you have it! TP4U. 

However.... I will continue to disagree. Lebron's teammates get overrated. After all, Mo Williams was an allstar. This feels very similar.

[Mr October]

I am in awe that AV was named to the all defensive 2nd team.... What about Kendrick Perkins, the best post defender in the league!!!??

Varejao's playoffs career average is 6 points, 6 rebounds and under 1 steal and under 1 rebound. Hurt back or healthy back, this guy gets exposed in the playoffs year in and year out.

He's good, but he is not one of the 4 best big man defenders in the NBA. What a joke.

Well, lets get back to exposing him and wailing on his groin while we are at it. Go Celtics!!!