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Why No Nate?
« on: May 03, 2010, 12:57:04 PM »

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I know he is vastly undersized but he should defintaly get some PT against this team. I was thinking today maybe he could have came in, gave rondo a breather and thrown in 7 points. Again I dont really remeber Nate doing anything terrible to be all of a sudden dropped from the lineup. He is very capable of scoring somewhere to 10 to 20 points if he were to get time. IDK I know he is not the best defender but just wondering why all of a sudden he was dropped and is yet to really be seen.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 01:36:03 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 01:38:46 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 01:42:29 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House

Which is why a lot of people were against the trade to begin with.
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Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 01:42:38 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House


Except in the past, House was a more constant shooter.


Why do you think they signed Cassell and Marbury?

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 01:44:21 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House

Agreed I would much rather Nate than TA at the backup PG.  Heck play them together and you at least have the threat of Nate making a 3.

I really hope he gets some minutes because he has the type of attitude you need to win on the road.
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Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 01:46:32 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House


Except in the past, House was a more constant shooter.


Why do you think they signed Cassell and Marbury?

Fair point, but Doc stuck with Cassell and Marbury far longer (and into the playoffs). Nate may not be a perfect fit with this team, i will concede that. However, he has played at least as well as Bury and Cassell played for us. No question.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 01:51:07 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House


Except in the past, House was a more constant shooter.


Why do you think they signed Cassell and Marbury?

Fair point, but Doc stuck with Cassell and Marbury far longer (and into the playoffs). Nate may not be a perfect fit with this team, i will concede that. However, he has played at least as well as Bury and Cassell played for us. No question.

  Didn't he get Nate earlier in the season than the other two? Did he stick with them far longer, or did he just start with them later? And he "stuck" with Marbury because we didn't really have any options.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 01:53:17 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House


Except in the past, House was a more constant shooter.


Why do you think they signed Cassell and Marbury?

Fair point, but Doc stuck with Cassell and Marbury far longer (and into the playoffs). Nate may not be a perfect fit with this team, i will concede that. However, he has played at least as well as Bury and Cassell played for us. No question.

  Didn't he get Nate earlier in the season than the other two? Did he stick with them far longer, or did he just start with them later? And he "stuck" with Marbury because we didn't really have any options.

Looking strictly at the playoffs, I feel that Marbury and Cassell were given far more a chance to contribute, and that was when WE HAD EDDIE HOUSE.

We don't have EHouse anymore, and Nate still isn't getting minutes. How do you bench Nate and not Sheed?

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 02:08:06 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House


Except in the past, House was a more constant shooter.


Why do you think they signed Cassell and Marbury?

Fair point, but Doc stuck with Cassell and Marbury far longer (and into the playoffs). Nate may not be a perfect fit with this team, i will concede that. However, he has played at least as well as Bury and Cassell played for us. No question.

  Didn't he get Nate earlier in the season than the other two? Did he stick with them far longer, or did he just start with them later? And he "stuck" with Marbury because we didn't really have any options.

Looking strictly at the playoffs, I feel that Marbury and Cassell were given far more a chance to contribute, and that was when WE HAD EDDIE HOUSE.

We don't have EHouse anymore, and Nate still isn't getting minutes. How do you bench Nate and not Sheed?

Its simple.  Tony Allen is playing excellent basketball, and Rondo has made the leap. 

Last year, Marbury played, because they had no wings off the bench, so they went small, and used him to take some of those minutes.  They just did not trust Tony Allen (and for good reason).

Two years ago, Rondo was not ready for prime time.  He was still learning how to be effective when teams took away parts of his offense, and he just was not ready for 40+ minutes per game.

But with all of that said, I have a feeling we have not seen the last of Nate.  In '08, Doc changed his rotation several times, and I don't expect that to change.  If the C's need some scoring more than they need defense, I think Nate will get a look.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 02:08:21 PM »

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Tony Allen has outplayed Nate at the point guard position.

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 02:27:53 PM »

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Because he is a bad fit for what the Celtics need out of a backup PG.


They want someone who will run the offense.


Nate is a streaky gunner. 



And Nate's defense is not good.

sounds like you're describing Eddie House


Except in the past, House was a more constant shooter.


Why do you think they signed Cassell and Marbury?

Fair point, but Doc stuck with Cassell and Marbury far longer (and into the playoffs). Nate may not be a perfect fit with this team, i will concede that. However, he has played at least as well as Bury and Cassell played for us. No question.

  Didn't he get Nate earlier in the season than the other two? Did he stick with them far longer, or did he just start with them later? And he "stuck" with Marbury because we didn't really have any options.

Looking strictly at the playoffs, I feel that Marbury and Cassell were given far more a chance to contribute, and that was when WE HAD EDDIE HOUSE.

We don't have EHouse anymore, and Nate still isn't getting minutes. How do you bench Nate and not Sheed?

  Marbury played in large part because of injuries. When Sam was here Rondo was our 4th best player and getting about 10 minutes a game less. That's the biggest difference.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2010, 02:37:57 PM »

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What I want to know is, why doesnt Nate dunk anymore?

I think he's dunked one time as a Celtic. I understand the energy it takes to get up and dunk but it's not like hes playing heavy minutes. I'd love to see him fly high and get to the paint and dunk.
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Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 02:45:52 PM »

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What I want to know is, why doesnt Nate dunk anymore?

I think he's dunked one time as a Celtic. I understand the energy it takes to get up and dunk but it's not like hes playing heavy minutes. I'd love to see him fly high and get to the paint and dunk.

He never dunked in games.  Unless it is a wide open breakaway, he has never been a dunker.  He is just too small, and it would give guys way too much time to get up and block it.

Re: Why No Nate?
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2010, 03:56:03 PM »

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Tony Allen has outplayed Nate at the point guard position.
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If we can have "good" tony in giving minutes at pg/sg and even sf then great.  Tony has size as a pg and is a vg defender.  I really want rondo to play all out while he is on the court.  if that means giving him more rest before the 4th than fine for tony or nate but so far tony has looked much better.