Rondo 15TO's, Perk 16TO's

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A Center more turnover prone than his Point-Guard. Its impossible if you ask me. First of all he doesn't touch the ball on offense than much, yet turns it over at an incredible rate. On top of that Perk plays less than 28minutes a games to Rondo's 42minutes a game. Add to that his 2-3 offensive fouls a game. Add to the list being a Terrible FT shooter, and nightly technical fouls. Perk becoming a huge liability on this team. Doc is doing his best to encourage Perk. At some point Perk has to show poise, and play like a 7 year vet.

[Bahku]

Pretty bad ... it's because he's showing the ball to the defense again, and they're just waiting for it. Every opponent knows that he has the propensity to dribble before he goes up to the basket, so they're just waiting for him to do so, and grabbing the ball away. He had stopped doing it for the most part the first half of the season, but is now back to his old ways. If he doesn't change it up for the next series, it could really hurt us.

[PosImpos]

If he can stop Shaq from scoring much I'll be happy.

Mostly I'm worried about what Anderson Varejao is going to do, though. 

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If he can stop Shaq from scoring much I'll be happy.

Mostly I'm worried about what Anderson Varejao is going to do, though. 

What about the lost possessions? Shouldn't that concern you. Against Cleveland you can't be careless with the ball. Their 3point shooters will make you pay.

[Boris Badenov]

A Center more turnover prone than his Point-Guard. Its impossible if you ask me. First of all he doesn't touch the ball on offense than much, yet turns it over at an incredible rate. On top of that Perk plays less than 28minutes a games to Rondo's 42minutes a game. Add to that his 2-3 offensive fouls a game. Add to the list being a Terrible FT shooter, and nightly technical fouls. Perk becoming a huge liability on this team. Doc is doing his best to encourage Perk. At some point Perk has to show poise, and play like a 7 year vet.

Technically you wouldn't "add" his offensive fouls. They count as turnovers.

Also, many of Perkins' TOs come from his offensive fouls and 3 second calls (and some of the techs too, I guess). I'm not defending him - it just explains why someone without the ball can get so many turnovers.

I do agree with your point. He needs to be more effective, because we may need him on the floor more against CLE than we did against MIA.

[PosImpos]

If he can stop Shaq from scoring much I'll be happy.

Mostly I'm worried about what Anderson Varejao is going to do, though. 

What about the lost possessions? Shouldn't that concern you. Against Cleveland you can't be careless with the ball. Their 3point shooters will make you pay.

The Celtics will force turnovers.  If Perk can cause Shaq (and hopefully Andy) to miss a lot of shots, then it'll hopefully make up for his own turnovers.

[KungPoweChicken]

Not to boast, but I was pointing out all of these flaws in Perk's game on this board a few months ago, and everyone brushed me off. Now it looks like it's becoming fashionable to criticize his game.

[Bahku]

Perk's obviously got to stop putting the ball on the floor and cut down on turnovers, (along with the rest of the team), but he did some really great stuff in this game. I'm watching for the first time right now, and he's being a beast in the paint on offense! (And not getting the calls he should be, either).

[BballTim]

Not to boast, but I was pointing out all of these flaws in Perk's game on this board a few months ago, and everyone brushed me off. Now it looks like it's becoming fashionable to criticize his game.

  It's always fashionable around here to focus more on offense than on defense. Miami's center, who shot 53% from the field and averaged 14 points a game, was 9-44 from the field, averaged 4 points a game, and was a non-factor offensively for the entire series. Perk's "unfashionable" play means a lot to the team, despite your boasting.

  BTW, some of those turnovers were from setting picks and three second violations. They weren't all when Perk had the ball.

[Scottie]

Not to boast, but I was pointing out all of these flaws in Perk's game on this board a few months ago, and everyone brushed me off. Now it looks like it's becoming fashionable to criticize his game.

  It's always fashionable around here to focus more on offense than on defense. Miami's center, who shot 53% from the field and averaged 14 points a game, was 9-44 from the field, averaged 4 points a game, and was a non-factor offensively for the entire series. Perk's "unfashionable" play means a lot to the team, despite your boasting.

TP for recognising this.

[KungPoweChicken]

Not to boast, but I was pointing out all of these flaws in Perk's game on this board a few months ago, and everyone brushed me off. Now it looks like it's becoming fashionable to criticize his game.

  It's always fashionable around here to focus more on offense than on defense. Miami's center, who shot 53% from the field and averaged 14 points a game, was 9-44 from the field, averaged 4 points a game, and was a non-factor offensively for the entire series. Perk's "unfashionable" play means a lot to the team, despite your boasting.

  BTW, some of those turnovers were from setting picks and three second violations. They weren't all when Perk had the ball.

O'neal missed a ridiculous amount of wide open jumpers. You act like Perk was in his jersey all game. Give me a break! Jermaine O'neal is banged up, past his prime, and in a shooting slump. But, with all that being said, he still managed to block more shots a game in this series (in less minutes) than Kendrick "The Defensive Beast" Perkins.





And, by the way, a turnover is a turnover; it doesn't matter if Perk loses us a possession because he can't count to three or because he still doesn't know how to set a screen.

[LooseCannon]

But, with all that being said, he still managed to block more shots a game in this series (in less minutes) than Kendrick "The Defensive Beast" Perkins.

Actually, Perkins had a fraction more blocks per game than Jermaine O'Neal in the series despite having zero minutes against BBD.

[Birdbrain]

It's frustrating no doubt to watch Perk bring the ball down from time to time and having it stripped but, as previously mentioned he played so well on defense in the Miami series that I have hard time getting overly concerned. Basically it is what it is.

Prior to the Miami series O'neal was a concern and Boston was the most likely team to be upset. When he started shooting in low teens Miami became a 1 man team that Boston should have beaten by 20 each game.

[Cman]

A Center more turnover prone than his Point-Guard. Its impossible if you ask me. First of all he doesn't touch the ball on offense than much, yet turns it over at an incredible rate. On top of that Perk plays less than 28minutes a games to Rondo's 42minutes a game. Add to that his 2-3 offensive fouls a game. Add to the list being a Terrible FT shooter, and nightly technical fouls. Perk becoming a huge liability on this team. Doc is doing his best to encourage Perk. At some point Perk has to show poise, and play like a 7 year vet.

Agreed.  He has been completely underwhelming this series.  It's hard to understand what's happening.  It's not as if he is aging and can't do what he used to do.  It is just that he is reverting back to stupid stuff.  We know he is better, we know he can be more consistent.  What gives?  Maybe there is something off-court going on (eg: he and his wife are expecting and it is freaking him out?)

[wdleehi]

The offensive fouls will happen.  The three seconds will happen.



Sometimes they are his fault, sometimes they are a teammates fault (going before the pick is set or making one to many passes when Perk goes to set up for a rebound) 


Those things are not going to go away unless they want Perk to not set picks and not go for offensive rebounds.


The other TOs need to be cleaned up. 


Defensively, he is playing the game the Celtics need.  You can say O'Neal was just off an missing easy shots, but Perk has a track record in the playoffs of getting players off their offensive games. 


Next two rounds (probably 3), the Celtics need Perk's defense and strength.