What should we do in the 2010 NBA Draft?

[Who]

Udoh sounds like a very athletic big man who is capable of averaging a double double and supply above average defense. That would be a nice package.

[PosImpos]

According to nbadraft.net, Ekpe Udoh: NBA Comparison: Jerome Moiso/Chris Gatling.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ekpe-udoh

According to DraftExpress:

Best Case: Rasheed Wallace W/out The Attitude
Worst Case: Solomon Jones

Really? Rasheed Wallace without the attitude (I'm assuming here that in addition to off-court issues, and technicals, it means he parks his butt in the post and only takes the occasional three,as well as being able to be the star rather than prefering second-fiddle) is a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

His offensive skills in the post could possibly be the best of his generation. His post defense was best in the league (in his prime), and he also was a team defender almost at KG's level (again, when he still had athleticism). In addition to excellent b-ball IQ, passing etc.

Ekpe Udoh will never reach such a level of offensive skill (he could be close-ish, I'm thinking maybe he could be a better-defending, more-in-control but slightly-less offensively-talented Beasley). He will need to work hard even to become as good a defender, and it's also unlikely for him to develop as high a basketball IQ as well. I'm not hating on Udoh, but barely anyone could be as good as a non-attitude Sheed, and only HOFers, and next-level perennial all-stars (e.g. Joe Johnson, Pau Gasol) are better than the Sheed with attitude.

EDIT: My rant is not directed at you, PosImpos, but the writers at DraftExpress.

Oh, I completely agree.  But the point is he's not as bad as the Draft.net estimate suggests (Jerome Moiso).

[cdif911]

draft? who cares about the draft, it's the playoffs =)

[rav123]

According to nbadraft.net, Ekpe Udoh: NBA Comparison: Jerome Moiso/Chris Gatling.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ekpe-udoh

According to DraftExpress:

Best Case: Rasheed Wallace W/out The Attitude
Worst Case: Solomon Jones

Really? Rasheed Wallace without the attitude (I'm assuming here that in addition to off-court issues, and technicals, it means he parks his butt in the post and only takes the occasional three,as well as being able to be the star rather than prefering second-fiddle) is a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

His offensive skills in the post could possibly be the best of his generation. His post defense was best in the league (in his prime), and he also was a team defender almost at KG's level (again, when he still had athleticism). In addition to excellent b-ball IQ, passing etc.

Ekpe Udoh will never reach such a level of offensive skill (he could be close-ish, I'm thinking maybe he could be a better-defending, more-in-control but slightly-less offensively-talented Beasley). He will need to work hard even to become as good a defender, and it's also unlikely for him to develop as high a basketball IQ as well. I'm not hating on Udoh, but barely anyone could be as good as a non-attitude Sheed, and only HOFers, and next-level perennial all-stars (e.g. Joe Johnson, Pau Gasol) are better than the Sheed with attitude.

EDIT: My rant is not directed at you, PosImpos, but the writers at DraftExpress.

Oh, I completely agree.  But the point is he's not as bad as the Draft.net estimate suggests (Jerome Moiso).

I never saw Moiso play, but judging by what I've heard said about him on CB, I think being compared to him is unfavourable for any prospect 

Then again, even if they've compared him to Moiso, they have him going #18.

Oh wait... Moiso went 11th  He had some badass per36 in 02-03 for the Hornets though  : 12 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 1.5bpg, 1 apg, 1 spg

draft? who cares about the draft, it's the playoffs =)

I'm inclined to agree with you. (but then everyone would point out I was the one who started the thread  ). I think how well we do in the playoffs determines what we do in the draft actually.

[winsomme]

this is a pretty impressive highlight reel (Paul Goerge). If actually has this kind of complete game I'd expect that he will shoot right up the draft board into the lottery.

he, however, has the exact kind of game that we need. smooth offense and long and athletic on defense...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERcmFdlrrXY

[Fan from VT]

Okay, I'm putting my official draft wish into play:

Trade back a few spots to the 24-26 range and pick up a pick in the 29-33 range and grab Larry Sanders and Willie Warren.

Sanders: I think he'll be good and we need a guy that can do the things he does: finish, rebound, defend. Be an athlete. Huge wingspan, great height.

Warren: I think we'd be in a great position to take him. He's certainly tall enough to play the 2 guard in today's NBA, and we'll probably extend Ray for 2 years, so Warren would be a combo 1/2 off the bench for the first couple years. Then we'd see if he can play full time two, full time combo bench, move him, etc. But he was really highly regarded last year. Why not now? He wasn't that much worse this year. Showed very good court vision, decent shooting. He's a good free throw shooter, and that, along with his freshman numbers, tells me he'll develop an NBA shot. Now's the time to buy low on this guy. One additional key is that many are saying his numbers are down (or less up than wanted) because they lost Griffin. Well, I like that. Remember people were all over the place about Rondo, and there was a camp that just thought he needed to play with NBA players. Guess that was the case. I bet that's the case with Warren: he'll be better with 4 actual NBA players on the court at once.


In actuality my late-draft dream combo is avery bradley and larry sanders, but I doubt we can end up with both working from 19/52.


And though this was my official announcement, I may change my mind closer to the draft.

[Mr October]

Okay, I'm putting my official draft wish into play:

Trade back a few spots to the 24-26 range and pick up a pick in the 29-33 range and grab Larry Sanders and Willie Warren.

Sanders: I think he'll be good and we need a guy that can do the things he does: finish, rebound, defend. Be an athlete. Huge wingspan, great height.

Warren: I think we'd be in a great position to take him. He's certainly tall enough to play the 2 guard in today's NBA, and we'll probably extend Ray for 2 years, so Warren would be a combo 1/2 off the bench for the first couple years. Then we'd see if he can play full time two, full time combo bench, move him, etc. But he was really highly regarded last year. Why not now? He wasn't that much worse this year. Showed very good court vision, decent shooting. He's a good free throw shooter, and that, along with his freshman numbers, tells me he'll develop an NBA shot. Now's the time to buy low on this guy. One additional key is that many are saying his numbers are down (or less up than wanted) because they lost Griffin. Well, I like that. Remember people were all over the place about Rondo, and there was a camp that just thought he needed to play with NBA players. Guess that was the case. I bet that's the case with Warren: he'll be better with 4 actual NBA players on the court at once.


In actuality my late-draft dream combo is avery bradley and larry sanders, but I doubt we can end up with both working from 19/52.


And though this was my official announcement, I may change my mind closer to the draft.

Those sound like nice picks. I keep waffling on whether I would rather keep 19 and 52, or trade them for a 25 and 30 type.

I think i want to keep 19. There are so many nice prospects out there. I have a feeling someone really solid is going to slide to 19. From there I'm hoping the Celtics can buy an extra pick in the 25-40 range.

[Fan from VT]

Okay, I'm putting my official draft wish into play:

Trade back a few spots to the 24-26 range and pick up a pick in the 29-33 range and grab Larry Sanders and Willie Warren.

Sanders: I think he'll be good and we need a guy that can do the things he does: finish, rebound, defend. Be an athlete. Huge wingspan, great height.

Warren: I think we'd be in a great position to take him. He's certainly tall enough to play the 2 guard in today's NBA, and we'll probably extend Ray for 2 years, so Warren would be a combo 1/2 off the bench for the first couple years. Then we'd see if he can play full time two, full time combo bench, move him, etc. But he was really highly regarded last year. Why not now? He wasn't that much worse this year. Showed very good court vision, decent shooting. He's a good free throw shooter, and that, along with his freshman numbers, tells me he'll develop an NBA shot. Now's the time to buy low on this guy. One additional key is that many are saying his numbers are down (or less up than wanted) because they lost Griffin. Well, I like that. Remember people were all over the place about Rondo, and there was a camp that just thought he needed to play with NBA players. Guess that was the case. I bet that's the case with Warren: he'll be better with 4 actual NBA players on the court at once.


In actuality my late-draft dream combo is avery bradley and larry sanders, but I doubt we can end up with both working from 19/52.


And though this was my official announcement, I may change my mind closer to the draft.

Those sound like nice picks. I keep waffling on whether I would rather keep 19 and 52, or trade them for a 25 and 30 type.

I think i want to keep 19. There are so many nice prospects out there. I have a feeling someone really solid is going to slide to 19. From there I'm hoping the Celtics can buy an extra pick in the 25-40 range.

I'd definitely prefer to buy an extra pick rather than trade back for two.

CLEARLY I'm not an expert scout.  but looking at 18-30 range, there seem to be a TON of prospects with similar profiles and chances of success... Henry, Warren, Bradly, Pondexter, Hayward, George, Anderson, Babbit, Ebanks, Robinson...Chances are some of those guys will be very good pros, better than some of the guys drafted ahead with question marks. But not all of them will be good, so Personally, i'd rather take my chances with any two of them than the single one i like most.

[gPowell]

I was checking out NBADraft.net today and I was more than pleased! They've got James Anderson from Oklahoma State going to the Celtics at #19! That gentlemen would be a serious steal! Think about this, the kid can play a big #2 or even come in and fill space for Peirce. I think he's the ideal play for this 2nd unit being he can easily play the 2 and 3.

Let's hope this turns out for us

[CFAN38]

Celtics fan forever, but this is my first post on here


Celtics need to leave this draft with Dominique Jones, at the very least he should bring to the celtics what marcus thorton has brought to NO.   

The draft situation I hope to see the celtics in is that a player like Damion James slips to celtics (if not then stanely robinson)both give us the big sf we have needed post posey then the Cs buy a pick (maybe atlanta) and us it to draft Jones (or Crawford but rather have jones) then in the late 2nd hope that Kenneth Faried, Jarvis Varnado or Jerome Jordon fall to us (Faried would be a very nice late grab)
   

[Jeff]

here's an early mock draft

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2010/5/3/1455559/2010-nba-mock-draft-version-1-0

I'd put less stock in the exact player taken than the kinds of players picked in the C's range (say 14 - 25 or so)

[wiley]

Looking at the latest nbadraftnet mock, it jumped out at me that we might have just snuck inside a talent dropoff point....didn't seem this way to me before, and there's divergence on different sites, but I would say there's a possible dropoff in talent after pick#20.

In fact, a few weeks ago I would have said that two later picks could be as good if not better than our 19 pick.  Changed my mind.

Anyone else see a possible talent/potential dip after pick 19 or 20, 21 at the latest?

ps:  what did Stanley Robinson do to offend nbadraft.net? 

[xmuscularghandix]

With no current SG signed up for next year It'd make a lot of sense to address that.

I like the suggestion of Paul George due to his shooting ability, scouting reports talk about his inability to create for himself, but I'd still like him out there with Rondo. He also has a good reputation as an above average rebounder and ball handler for the position.


I like Luke Babbit as a player but i don't think he'll fit in defensively... but his scoring ability and offensive rebounding could be a boost for this team.


James Anderson is a good choice for SG but he seems like a player who can't handle well under pressure.


We need a shooter/scorer who can help pickup some of the scoring load. Pierce can't do it as often as he used to and Ray could be out of town...

[PosImpos]

here's an early mock draft

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2010/5/3/1455559/2010-nba-mock-draft-version-1-0

I'd put less stock in the exact player taken than the kinds of players picked in the C's range (say 14 - 25 or so)

Here's my ranking of who's available in that range according to the Mock Draft:

Hassan Whiteside
Donatas Motiejunas
Solomon Alabi
James Anderson
Larry Sanders
Paul George
Stanley Robinson
Quincy Pondexter
Gordon Hayward
Luke Babbitt
Avery Bradley

[MF Doom]

this is a pretty impressive highlight reel (Paul Goerge). If actually has this kind of complete game I'd expect that he will shoot right up the draft board into the lottery.

he, however, has the exact kind of game that we need. smooth offense and long and athletic on defense...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERcmFdlrrXY

This guy seems like he has a huge upside. Tremendous length, great athletic ability. Reminds me of a Tracy McGrady. If he is available I would definatley hope Danny would pick him up. We might be looking at the Pierce replacement if he can transfer his abilities into the NBA. Also a good compliment player for Rondo.