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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2010, 12:03:51 PM »

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Yeah as someone who can scream non-stop at the top of her lungs for 3 hours I'm a little underwhelmed by the noise level on TV. When I go to a game we cheer or jeer for practically everything both teams do - baskets, FTs, rebounds, steals whatever. I just want to see the arena as  hostile an environment for the opponent as possible. I think that's a little more important than keeping my team fired up honestly.
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2010, 12:28:39 PM »

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Yeah as someone who can scream non-stop at the top of her lungs for 3 hours I'm a little underwhelmed by the noise level on TV. When I go to a game we cheer or jeer for practically everything both teams do - baskets, FTs, rebounds, steals whatever. I just want to see the arena as  hostile an environment for the opponent as possible. I think that's a little more important than keeping my team fired up honestly.

Good Point.

It certainly took Q Rich out of his game.

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2010, 01:44:32 PM »

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Yeah as someone who can scream non-stop at the top of her lungs for 3 hours I'm a little underwhelmed by the noise level on TV. When I go to a game we cheer or jeer for practically everything both teams do - baskets, FTs, rebounds, steals whatever. I just want to see the arena as  hostile an environment for the opponent as possible. I think that's a little more important than keeping my team fired up honestly.

I remember the last game I saw in the Garden was when the Cs (with Antoine Walker!) lost to the NJ Nets in the playoffs -- yeah, a long time ago, but I have lived out of state for a number of years now.

Anyway, I made sure that, come the next morning, I had no voice.  I basically yelled as loud as I could from opening tip  to end of game (to the annoyance of a father with son sitting nearby, I think).
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2010, 02:07:12 PM »

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i think it has a lot to do with if you watched on TNT or CSNE.  CSNE defitely portrays the audio the way it really is.  TNT sounds all drowned out and muffled.  CSNE is a much better viewing experience, it actually feels like your there.  And Gorman knows exactly when to stop and let you experience it without voice over. 

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2010, 07:58:39 PM »

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i think it has a lot to do with if you watched on TNT or CSNE.  CSNE defitely portrays the audio the way it really is.  TNT sounds all drowned out and muffled.  CSNE is a much better viewing experience, it actually feels like your there.  And Gorman knows exactly when to stop and let you experience it without voice over. 

Co-sign.

I was at game one, and when KG was tossed, the crowd went thermal. Everyone was on his or her feet and screaming. In that moment, the crowd was above reproach and could not have done better.

Later, I saw ESPN's broadcast and I was stunned at how completely they had managed to edit out the crowd noise on a virtually live broadcast. Considering that the crowd was chanting words you aren't supposed to say on TV, I don't blame ESPN for doing it... but that doesn't mean the noise wasn't there. It was.

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2010, 11:43:09 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2010, 11:46:05 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

It's inconsistent. Game 2 was incandescently loud at times. Game 1 was lackluster.

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2010, 11:50:08 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

I really think it is just the band wagon C's fans that sit in the first level that only go because it is a thing to do that look terrible and are terrible fans, mostly, but that the balcony fans and hardcore and really into the games standing up and cheering. 

This is what I'm theorizing on, because I have not been to a game in more then two years, and they usually do not show the balcony much at the Celtics games. 

Bruins crowds are by far better then Celtics crowds now. 

When the Bruins score you really can see the crowd going nuts and waving their gold towels during the games.
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2010, 11:51:24 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

It's inconsistent. Game 2 was incandescently loud at times. Game 1 was lackluster.

Well I'm gonna do my best to be at game 3.  I hope its bumping.  If you can't get up for Lebron James and the Cavs, there's no hope.  I'll be bringing it.

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2010, 11:53:43 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

It's inconsistent. Game 2 was incandescently loud at times. Game 1 was lackluster.

Well I'm gonna do my best to be at game 3.  I hope its bumping.  If you can't get up for Lebron James and the Cavs, there's no hope.  I'll be bringing it.

Glad to hear it PierceMVP08 TP!
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2010, 11:55:04 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

I really think it is just the band wagon C's fans that sit in the first level that only go because it is a thing to do that look terrible and are terrible fans, mostly, but that the balcony fans and hardcore and really into the games standing up and cheering. 

This is what I'm theorizing on, because I have not been to a game in more then two years, and they usually do not show the balcony much at the Celtics games. 

Bruins crowds are by far better then Celtics crowds now. 

When the Bruins score you really can see the crowd going nuts and waving their gold towels during the games.

Yeah, I agree with you.  The Bruins crowd hasn't been infested with the corporate suits and bandwagon fans.  I dunno if they'll get to that point because hockey doesn't draw in the casual fan as much the other sports.  It's just the irony of ironies, that when we finally get a good product, the die hard fans who stuck with the team through everything were rewarded by being priced out and consequently did away with a homecourt advantage.

Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2010, 11:56:57 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

I really think it is just the band wagon C's fans that sit in the first level that only go because it is a thing to do that look terrible and are terrible fans, mostly, but that the balcony fans and hardcore and really into the games standing up and cheering. 

This is what I'm theorizing on, because I have not been to a game in more then two years, and they usually do not show the balcony much at the Celtics games. 

Bruins crowds are by far better then Celtics crowds now. 

When the Bruins score you really can see the crowd going nuts and waving their gold towels during the games.

Yeah, I agree with you.  The Bruins crowd hasn't been infested with the corporate suits and bandwagon fans.  I dunno if they'll get to that point because hockey doesn't draw in the casual fan as much the other sports.  It's just the irony of ironies, that when we finally get a good product, the die hard fans who stuck with the team through everything were rewarded by being priced out and consequently did away with a homecourt advantage.


Yeah... The Garden has stepped up...

But for the Bruins and not for the Celtics.

Not that I'm complaining though, completely, because I am a huge Bruins fan too...

But please Garden fans step up for the C's too!

And glad to hear that you are PierceMVP08.

And I want you to do this, and promise me this, that you will get everybody sitting near you to step up and get off their bums and start cheering for the C's like they never have before!
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2010, 11:58:25 PM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

I really think it is just the band wagon C's fans that sit in the first level that only go because it is a thing to do that look terrible and are terrible fans, mostly, but that the balcony fans and hardcore and really into the games standing up and cheering. 

This is what I'm theorizing on, because I have not been to a game in more then two years, and they usually do not show the balcony much at the Celtics games. 

Bruins crowds are by far better then Celtics crowds now. 

When the Bruins score you really can see the crowd going nuts and waving their gold towels during the games.

Yeah, I agree with you.  The Bruins crowd hasn't been infested with the corporate suits and bandwagon fans.  I dunno if they'll get to that point because hockey doesn't draw in the casual fan as much the other sports.  It's just the irony of ironies, that when we finally get a good product, the die hard fans who stuck with the team through everything were rewarded by being priced out and consequently did away with a homecourt advantage.


Not saying I disagree, but one goal in hockey is a pretty big deal.
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2010, 12:01:11 AM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

I really think it is just the band wagon C's fans that sit in the first level that only go because it is a thing to do that look terrible and are terrible fans, mostly, but that the balcony fans and hardcore and really into the games standing up and cheering. 

This is what I'm theorizing on, because I have not been to a game in more then two years, and they usually do not show the balcony much at the Celtics games. 

Bruins crowds are by far better then Celtics crowds now. 

When the Bruins score you really can see the crowd going nuts and waving their gold towels during the games.

Yeah, I agree with you.  The Bruins crowd hasn't been infested with the corporate suits and bandwagon fans.  I dunno if they'll get to that point because hockey doesn't draw in the casual fan as much the other sports.  It's just the irony of ironies, that when we finally get a good product, the die hard fans who stuck with the team through everything were rewarded by being priced out and consequently did away with a homecourt advantage.


Not saying I disagree, but one goal in hockey is a pretty big deal.

No you are completely right about that Redz, but I still believe that the crowds are a million times better at the Bruins games.
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Re: It's time for the Garden to step up
« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2010, 12:02:48 AM »

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I don't know, for me the crowds are no where near what they were back in the early 2000's.  It's getting to the point where, from an entertainment standpoint, I prefer to watch the Celts on the road where at least the opposing crowd brings energy to the game.  Games at the Garden tend to feel boring, and tonight was much of the same despite being a close out game.  Even Gorman commented on it a couple of times.

If I wasn't a Celts fan or Heat fan, I wouldn't have watched it.  Back in the early part of the decade we sounded a lot like the OKC crowds (check the videos at the beginning of the thread).  Today, dare I say, we sound worse than staples.

I know the TV broadcast drowns out the noise to an extent, but they don't distort the video, and I see a full stadium sitting on their hand for the vast majority of the game.  For some reason I don't think their blowing the roof off the place from their seats.  Beyond killing the atmosphere of what should be great playoff basketball, I don't think any opposing teams are intimidated of playing in the Garden.

I really think it is just the band wagon C's fans that sit in the first level that only go because it is a thing to do that look terrible and are terrible fans, mostly, but that the balcony fans and hardcore and really into the games standing up and cheering.  

This is what I'm theorizing on, because I have not been to a game in more then two years, and they usually do not show the balcony much at the Celtics games.  

Bruins crowds are by far better then Celtics crowds now.  

When the Bruins score you really can see the crowd going nuts and waving their gold towels during the games.

Yeah, I agree with you.  The Bruins crowd hasn't been infested with the corporate suits and bandwagon fans.  I dunno if they'll get to that point because hockey doesn't draw in the casual fan as much the other sports.  It's just the irony of ironies, that when we finally get a good product, the die hard fans who stuck with the team through everything were rewarded by being priced out and consequently did away with a homecourt advantage.


Yeah... The Garden has stepped up...

But for the Bruins and not for the Celtics.

Not that I'm complaining though, completely, because I am a huge Bruins fan too...

But please Garden fans step up for the C's too!

And glad to hear that you are PierceMVP08.

And I want you to do this, and promise me this, that you will get everybody sitting near you to step up and get off their asses and start cheering for the C's like they never have before!

I'm up to it man.  Although it seems every time i go to a game i get someone yelling at me to sit down.  If only we could get a section reserved for CB members, a la Bogut's section in Milwaukee.  You need a group to get something going.  Who's with me!?