What is Big Baby thinking?

[Jon]

Well, this is exactly why no one was interested in giving him a big contract last summer.  He's a nice bench player, but because of his physical limitations (height and athleticism), he'll never be a starter on a good team. 

Didn't work out so nicely for BBD's wallet, but it worked out quite nicely for us. 

[CoachBo]

This team needs a significant tweak in the off-season. Right now, I view Glen Davis as someone who needs to be moved in that tweak. He simply cannot finish well enough at the rim.

[Bankshot]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

[jambr380]

Well, I think Davis just needs to 'tweak' his game- I don't think he needs to be traded (that would only make us less energetic). When he is moving going in for a shot, he often gets fouled and/or makes the lay-up. He also is pretty solid with his mid-range jumper, but hasn't taken it nearly as much as last year.

His one and only problem is that he makes a great play grabbing an offensive rebound and then gives back momentum getting blocked. This really has to be on the coaches. They need to 'make' him pass the ball back out if he gets a rebound. He needs to get used to his.

[Bankshot]

Well, I think Davis just needs to 'tweak' his game- I don't think he needs to be traded (that would only make us less energetic). When he is moving going in for a shot, he often gets fouled and/or makes the lay-up. He also is pretty solid with his mid-range jumper, but hasn't taken it nearly as much as last year.

His one and only problem is that he makes a great play grabbing an offensive rebound and then gives back momentum getting blocked. This really has to be on the coaches. They need to 'make' him pass the ball back out if he gets a rebound. He needs to get used to his.

Agreed.

[Who]

Doc just needs to stop playing Glen Davis alongside slow footed centers.

Then he is an effective role player. Otherwise, he is not, the team defense (help defense from the bigs) declines too severely.

[Bankshot]

Doc just needs to stop playing Glen Davis alongside slow footed centers.

Then he is an effective role player. Otherwise, he is not, the team defense (help defense from the bigs) declines too severely.

He does play best alongside KG.

We need to replace Sheed with a young athletic big.  But how?

[MBunge]

Doc just needs to stop playing Glen Davis alongside slow footed centers.

I think Davis could play along side Perk quite effectively.  That's because Perk would hang around the basket while Davis would flair out to shoot 17 foot jumpers.  It's playing alongside Sheed that's the problem.  Instead of Sheed staying down low and Big Baby drawing the other PF out of the lane, Sheed floats around outside and BB is left to hang around the lane and get his shot blocked.

Mike

[Jon]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Then again, would we have needed those hustle plays in the fourth if we had had a power forward who finishes around the basket in the first half? 

I like some of the things BBD does, but I also question whether a lot of those positives are ultimately negated by his limitations. 

[Fafnir]

Doc just needs to stop playing Glen Davis alongside slow footed centers.

Then he is an effective role player. Otherwise, he is not, the team defense (help defense from the bigs) declines too severely.

How should Doc manage the big man minutes?

I do think BBD is much more effective alongside KG, but the rotation is tricky.

[MBz]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Agreed.  Sure he only shot 2-6, but I thought he played great overall.  He really helped this team win.  According to 82games.com 18% of his total shots are blocked, while 25% of his inside shots are blocked.  Who would be better?  Leon Powe?  He gets 16% of his shots blocked and 19% of his inside shots blocked.  He's a backup player for a reason.  He's not a starter, celtics fans need to stop being so critical of every player on the team.  We are not going to get 12 all-star players.

[xmuscularghandix]

I certainly hope that when I see Glen Davis' shots getting blocked on a regular basis next year that he is playing for another team.

56 percent of Glen Davis' shots have come close to the basket this year, 26 percent of those shots have been blocked. That is atrocious.

Glen Davis is the only player that is able to get offensive rebounds. He has an ability to draw the contact and still get his shot off.

Last night baby played awesome... this thread is ridiculous.

[Fafnir]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Agreed.  Sure he only shot 2-6, but I thought he played great overall.  He really helped this team win.  According to 82games.com 18% of his total shots are blocked, while 25% of his inside shots are blocked.  Who would be better?  Leon Powe?  He gets 16% of his shots blocked and 19% of his inside shots blocked.  He's a backup player for a reason.  He's not a starter, celtics fans need to stop being so critical of every player on the team.  We are not going to get 12 all-star players.

Leon Powe's comparative block rate doesn't change the fact that BBD absolutely has to convert a higher percentage of his inside looks.

[Jon]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Agreed.  Sure he only shot 2-6, but I thought he played great overall.  He really helped this team win.  According to 82games.com 18% of his total shots are blocked, while 25% of his inside shots are blocked.  Who would be better?  Leon Powe?  He gets 16% of his shots blocked and 19% of his inside shots blocked.  He's a backup player for a reason.  He's not a starter, celtics fans need to stop being so critical of every player on the team.  We are not going to get 12 all-star players.

Leon Powe's comparative block rate doesn't change the fact that BBD absolutely has to convert a higher percentage of his inside looks.

I'd also be curious to know the percent of shots that he misses because his shot is altered.  I don't think they have a stat on that, but even when his shot isn't blocked, he often misses easy shots trying to avoid the long reach of opposing defenders. 

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Leon's poor in that area as well.  If you recall back to 2008, Powe and BBD both struggled against long teams like Atlanta and Cleveland and looked better when we played less athletic/lengthy (or in the case of the Lakers, defensively soft) teams. 

[MBz]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Agreed.  Sure he only shot 2-6, but I thought he played great overall.  He really helped this team win.  According to 82games.com 18% of his total shots are blocked, while 25% of his inside shots are blocked.  Who would be better?  Leon Powe?  He gets 16% of his shots blocked and 19% of his inside shots blocked.  He's a backup player for a reason.  He's not a starter, celtics fans need to stop being so critical of every player on the team.  We are not going to get 12 all-star players.

Leon Powe's comparative block rate doesn't change the fact that BBD absolutely has to convert a higher percentage of his inside looks.

I know, but it's not going to happen.  This is the player he is and there aren't that many back up bigs better than Big Baby in the league.  Would it be nice to see Big Baby score more inside?  Absolutely, but at least hes putting effort in on the floor.  Sheed normally just goes through the motions.