Paul Pierce gets it, KG doesn't... (booing)

[jdpapa3]

i never boo them.  it is just something i refuse to do.  if im unhappy, i just get really quiet.

Same here. I wouldn't feel right booing.

And I disagree with KG, but still have the same amount of respect for him. I didn't see a lack of effort out of him specifically so I can see why he got all defensive.

[CelticHooligan3]

And your voice is never heard... I for one choose to boo & be heard only in neccesary situations. Such as last night. If you just get quiet your just overlooked & overshadowed. That's not what our forefathers here in Boston did. They stood up & let their voices be heard.

Obviously very vastly different situations but my point is it's a long standing tradition in Boston to stand up & voice your displeasure with any sub par performance. Whether that be from a King or beloved Boston Celtics. I say stand & be heard!

[wiley]

i never boo them.  it is just something i refuse to do.  if im unhappy, i just get really quiet.

Same here. I wouldn't feel right booing.

And I disagree with KG, but still have the same amount of respect for him. I didn't see a lack of effort out of him specifically so I can see why he got all defensive.

I also would never boo.  I think it's okay if some fans want to do it or think it's necessary or whatever.  But I also want the player to be free to respond to the booing in the heat of the moment, without crucifying him on "his way out of town".

There was booing.  There was an emotional, misguided response that knocked a certain type of fan.  Now we've got a one-way take pot shots at KG thing flowing like a river.  Some parts of that river will probably never let this little incident go, and that's a shame.

I think fans and bloggers should also not be oversensitive, however little money they make.

[CelticHooligan3]

We need more fans who care enough & love their team enough to stand up & boo at the appropriate times. Over fans who just sit back quietly & take the inferior product just to not have the players feel embarrassed or slighted.

Come on now. Their big boys. They can take it. And they will as long as they play like that. They make millions to play a sport most of us on here love. And for a team most of us on here adore & would be proud to play for. So a little booing from the Boston faithful might go a long way in waking this team up from the regular season doldrums or whatever you wanna call the last few weeks we've seen from them.

The playoffs are coming the attitudes of some players & some fans need to change if we have any chance of winning. And in my opinion it starts in the crowd with how much passion your willing to give.
Sometimes it needs to be negative in order to come out the other side with a positive.

[CelticHooligan3]

Wiley however little money they make? Now is that fair? Did I sit there & say you must be the yuppy who sits in the goodseats ranting & raving on his cell phone all game, arrives late & leaves early to beat the crowds? Please... Come off the high horse guy. Were all rooting for the same team. Some of us choose to sit their in their seats twiddling their thumbs talking to their wives or girlfriends about tomorrows trip to home depot. While others tend to actuallys watch the game stand up root for the team & possibly spill beers all over the backs of you two. 

[dark_lord]

We need more fans who care enough & love their team enough to stand up & boo at the appropriate times. Over fans who just sit back quietly & take the inferior product just to not have the players feel embarrassed or slighted.

Come on now. Their big boys. They can take it. And they will as long as they play like that. They make millions to play a sport most of us on here love. And for a team most of us on here adore & would be proud to play for. So a little booing from the Boston faithful might go a long way in waking this team up from the regular season doldrums or whatever you wanna call the last few weeks we've seen from them.

The playoffs are coming the attitudes of some players & some fans need to change if we have any chance of winning. And in my opinion it starts in the crowd with how much passion your willing to give.
Sometimes it needs to be negative in order to come out the other side with a positive.

labeling the fans that are quiet huh .....speak for urself.

fyi, silence often has just as strong impact.

[Kiorrik]

Big difference in the kind of fans we have here.

You guys call it the negative fans and the positive fans.

I'm more or less talking about the way we support the team. There's fans that yell their lungs out to get the team back to playing well, and there's fans that boo because they play bad.

Same situation, two different kinds of fans.

I'm a yeller.

Imagine a whole garden booing you. How many people is that? Tens of thousands? All of them booing.

Now imagine the adrenaline (seriously, adrenaline is a big thing when you play sports) you get from a Garden that's cheering you on. Calling your name. Chanting MVP. Arguing every call made by refs.

You guys think Sheed can sway the momentum? Just one person? But it's impossible for tens of thousands to do the same thing? You're definitely kidding yourself.

To me, cheering is productive, booing will make matters worse.

Oh and don't give me that "they make millions" stuff, because that has absolutely nothing to do with the on-court stuff.

[Kiorrik]

And I apologize for messing up the quotes. Typing on an itouch when one is seething at his teams star & his loyal servants.. I mean entourage is quite hard to do.

Np, I fixed your quotes buddy I have that happen to me too, every now and then

[wiley]

We need more fans who care enough & love their team enough to stand up & boo at the appropriate times. Over fans who just sit back quietly & take the inferior product just to not have the players feel embarrassed or slighted.

Come on now. Their big boys. They can take it. And they will as long as they play like that. They make millions to play a sport most of us on here love. And for a team most of us on here adore & would be proud to play for. So a little booing from the Boston faithful might go a long way in waking this team up from the regular season doldrums or whatever you wanna call the last few weeks we've seen from them.

The playoffs are coming the attitudes of some players & some fans need to change if we have any chance of winning. And in my opinion it starts in the crowd with how much passion your willing to give.
Sometimes it needs to be negative in order to come out the other side with a positive.

Agree Hooligan....booing can have a longterm positive effect.  And there's no such thing as a sports stadium that's never known boos.  Booing can also clarify things for a G.M.  What is my team's fan base looking for, for example.  It's part of the sports landscape.  Thanks for the occassional well-placed boo, Celticshooligan.

[PosImpos]

Don't kid yourselves guys.  The fans aren't going to have a significant impact on this team.  Cheering isn't going to make KG 3 years younger and booing isn't going to give Pierce back the step and a half he lost this season.

[wiley]

Wiley however little money they make? Now is that fair? Did I sit there & say you must be the yuppy who sits in the goodseats ranting & raving on his cell phone all game, arrives late & leaves early to beat the crowds? Please... Come off the high horse guy. Were all rooting for the same team. Some of us choose to sit their in their seats twiddling their thumbs talking to their wives or girlfriends about tomorrows trip to home depot. While others tend to actuallys watch the game stand up root for the team & possibly spill beers all over the backs of you two. 

Wow, you nailed me just at the same moment I was giving you props (see previous post).

My saying "no matter how little money they make" was to take the money issue off the table in this discussion, not to label you or anyone else here. I was talking about oversensitive going both ways, fan and player, which has nothing to do with money, imo.  I'm sure there as many over-sensitive rich fans as over-sensitive less rich ones (that's a poke at ticket prices). I have no idea I wasn't thinking comparatively about fan affluence.

You are doing the caricatures here at the moment, imo.

[CelticHooligan3]

My fault I thought you were talking about affluence or lack thereof of certain fans. I apologize fir jumping to conclusions.

[wiley]

My fault I thought you were talking about affluence or lack thereof of certain fans. I apologize fir jumping to conclusions.

Thanks C.H.!

By the way, if I could ban cell phones at games I would.  Get those public phones out of the seats!  And get the nightly news off the big screen at Fenway!
Stadiums are sacred places!

[CelticHooligan3]

Posimpos obviously the fans can't do anything physically to make any of the big three or anyone else miraculously younger. But I disagree that the crowd doesn't have any affect whatsoever. I truly beleive when the crowd is loud & boisterous it can change a game. Utah game for example. Not in our favor on that one but it was clear to me that the crowd had some sort of influence.

The affect of the crowd as a mass can be positive or negative. Cheering loudly for the Celtics can get some of our guys thru bumps & bruises maybe they'd feel more otherwise. It creates adrenaline. As some previous poster said. And adrenaline goes a long way in this game. It can also demoralize the other team. Of course there's exceptions to every rule. See Reggie/New York. Or Jordan/anywhere. But for the most part a loud fan base will go a long way.

The reaction last night from the fans was clearly negative. But it was meant in order to bring change for a positive. So for KG to call that reaction fair weathered is uneducated at best. It shows how out of touch he is with these fans. And ultimatley this is what this posts about.

I'm a big fan of KG's but that being said his comments really surprised & angered me. It's just disappointing to me that he'd be so far off base knowing the type of team & city he plays for. And for that he must be called out & held accountable. He owes the fans an apology. You don't bite the hand that feeds you per say. Although we certainly don't feed the man we do support him. In his eyes that should be important & go a long way.

[snowball]

How come I never see signs ??